Comments on: Always the bridesmaid, never the bride… http://www.principiadiscordia.com/blog/cain/always-the-bridesmaid-never-the-bride/ Lulz is the Law, Lulz under Lol Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:38:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Cain http://www.principiadiscordia.com/blog/cain/always-the-bridesmaid-never-the-bride/#comment-558 Cain Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:10:41 +0000 http://www.principiadiscordia.com/blog/?p=319#comment-558 I would suggest feudalism is probably more conceptually sound and defined than a hollow state. I would say what defined feudalism was firstly the class hierarchy, which still exists if more informally, but also the overlapping nature of loyalty within the system. A feudal lord could be quite easily sworn to more than one king, for example. So the idea of "France" as a single country, for example, was a lot less solid that currently exists. I think it could go that way, but it wont, necessarily. I do like Hedley Bull's concept of neo-medievalism and think it has a lot of merit, but equally that social evolution and new technology will cause changes to the model, so even if its mostly analoguous to feudal societies, there may still be significant differences in general operation. I would suggest feudalism is probably more conceptually sound and defined than a hollow state. I would say what defined feudalism was firstly the class hierarchy, which still exists if more informally, but also the overlapping nature of loyalty within the system. A feudal lord could be quite easily sworn to more than one king, for example. So the idea of “France” as a single country, for example, was a lot less solid that currently exists.

I think it could go that way, but it wont, necessarily. I do like Hedley Bull’s concept of neo-medievalism and think it has a lot of merit, but equally that social evolution and new technology will cause changes to the model, so even if its mostly analoguous to feudal societies, there may still be significant differences in general operation.

]]> By: Xooxe http://www.principiadiscordia.com/blog/cain/always-the-bridesmaid-never-the-bride/#comment-557 Xooxe Sat, 21 Feb 2009 01:59:50 +0000 http://www.principiadiscordia.com/blog/?p=319#comment-557 Great stuff Cain. Interesting overview, and I'm checking out that Global Guerrillas site too. Is the idea of a hollow state similar to feudalism, just propped up with an illusory official government? Great stuff Cain. Interesting overview, and I’m checking out that Global Guerrillas site too.

Is the idea of a hollow state similar to feudalism, just propped up with an illusory official government?

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