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<div>Chapters 1-10 of the [[Sacred Chao Te Ching]]<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 1 ===<br />
<br />
The Universe that can be described is not the real Universe;<br />
the name that can be given is not an accurate name.<br />
Nameless, it is the source of order and disorder;<br />
Named... Well, we pretty much covered that, yeah?<br />
<br />
Whoever is disordered, sees that patterns do not exist<br />
Whoever is ordered, sees every pattern.<br />
These two are the same,<br />
but what is produced has names.<br />
They both may be called Illusion. <br />
From the comic to the tragic,<br />
this is the door to the essence of all life.<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 2 ===<br />
<br />
When the people of the world all know Order as Order,<br />
there arises the recognition of Disorder.<br />
When they all know there is such a thing as Illusion,<br />
there arises the idea of Reality.<br />
<br />
Therefore Order and Disorder produce each other,<br />
Reality and Illusion trick each other,<br />
Authority and Freedom define each other, <br />
Love and Hate fuck each other.<br />
<br />
So the wise spags look for the balance,<br />
And stick their wrench into the Machine™.<br />
<br />
They organize, but they do not Order.<br />
They break apart, but they do not Disorder.<br />
They act, but they Keep Their Fucking Mouths Shut.<br />
And so are able to act again.<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 3 ===<br />
<br />
If you put value<br />
In subjective Bullshit,<br />
Lesser spags will treat it<br />
Like objective Truth.<br />
<br />
Therefore the wise spags lead<br />
By knowing their Prison<br />
and staying pragmatic.<br />
Like hitting someone with a Barstool<br />
to prove that it actually exists,<br />
call people on their bullshit,<br />
so there will be no narcissism to exploit.<br />
By understanding your Cell, you will understand others'.<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 4 ===<br />
<br />
This is Chaos: it is Everything, including itself. <br />
All of Starbuck's Pebbles come from it. <br />
It confuses order, it arranges disorder. <br />
It multiplies its opposite, it positively negates. <br />
Lying below life, lining the world. <br />
The origin of all patterns. <br />
It has existed before we observed it.<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 5 ===<br />
<br />
Life is unfair, wear a helmet. <br />
The wise spag wears a helmet, but also drops hammers. <br />
<br />
Anything could be a punchline.<br />
Even the wise spag gets punched.<br />
<br />
Chaos never ends! <br />
Even its vacuum has a presence. <br />
To struggle against it, <br />
Is like pissing in the wind.<br />
<br />
[[image:Hammertime.gif]]<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 6 ===<br />
<br />
Chaos is too large to be named,<br />
but we did it anyway; we call it Eris.<br />
<br />
If you can see Her inside yourself,<br />
You can make something out of nothing.<br />
<br />
Eris is not the kind of Goddess you pray to by the way.<br />
Solve your problems yourself.<br />
She’s always there,<br />
She's just not that into you.<br />
<br />
Don’t call Eris a mother.<br />
she has eyes on the back of her head.<br />
<br />
Quoth the sage Tupac:<br />
"Won't be no bullshit, no ass-kissin<br />
This bitch'll have ya wakin up with all your cash missin"<br />
<br />
SUGGESTION BY BURNS:<br />
<br />
Chaos is to vast to be named,<br />
but we did anyway. We call her Eris.<br />
If you can see her inside yourself, <br />
you're probably getting penetrated.<br />
<br />
If this happens, it's best to just relax your muscles<br />
Because the more you fight the more it hurts. <br />
<br />
And she WANTS you to fight back.<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 7 ===<br />
<br />
The Universe outside your Prison Cell <br />
has gone on before you, and goes on after you. <br />
It is as unfeeling and uncaring about itself as a Barstool in midflight: <br />
Even if you have convinced yourself it consists mainly of empty space,<br />
you should probably still duck. <br />
<br />
So the wise Spags look outside their own brains, <br />
And grasp the surrounding minds. <br />
They see the Bars of their Black Iron Prison, <br />
And so are able to see around them. <br />
Because isn't the other way <br />
Tatamount to masturbation?<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 8 ===<br />
<br />
The best are like the Chao.<br />
It balances the Order and the Disorder;<br />
The escalation of Disorder,<br />
And the impositon of Order;<br />
Each adds to the other.<br />
<br />
As they live,<br />
And as they travel,<br />
They see the world as others would see Illusion.<br />
Be the Illusion Eristic,<br />
Or be it Aneristic,<br />
They strive to complete the balance.<br />
It's not their fault that the Aneristic has no sense of humor.<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 9 ===<br />
<br />
Write the longest, most wise essay<br />
and no one will have time to read it.<br />
Temper the truth to its very sharpest,<br />
and you will cut both friend and foe.<br />
<br />
Mo' money, mo' problems.<br />
Mo' everything, mo' problems.<br />
'Tis better to be able to disappear <br />
in a puff of smoke.<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 10 ===<br />
<br />
Can you laugh so hard<br />
that it sounds like screaming?<br />
Can you snicker like a venerable fogey<br />
while giggling like a newborn baby?<br />
Can you look with eyes that will actually see?<br />
Can you lead a cabal without dominating them?<br />
Can you understand, without using your mind?<br />
<br />
To create and destroy<br />
with no sense of self<br />
to act without obligation<br />
to lead without tyranny<br />
that is an awesome super power.</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=LARPGASM&diff=1044LARPGASM2009-08-28T02:46:56Z<p>69.119.239.223: </p>
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<div>LARPGASM is a Live Action RPG designed with a Discordian mindset. It is currently in development. Feel free to make notes on this page or the discussion panel.<br />
<br />
'''Game Community:''' http://larpgasm.ning.com/<br />
<br />
Cram found a '''ning customization community''' here: http://customize.ning.com/forum/topics/ning-for-a-game<br />
<br />
<br />
== Overall Concept ==<br />
You create a fictional persona for the game. It could be anything from an imaginary person to a time traveler. Your character is a member of the Discordian Society. The Discordian society that we wished existed. There are conspiracies and alliances and all sorts of bullshit.<br />
<br />
There is a social networking site which serves as the game's backbone, even though the real gameplay happens in 3D.<br />
<br />
The game is running 24/7/365. You can choose to play whenever you want. You signify that you're "in-game" by wearing an Eye of Eris (a beer can pull-tab that you wear as a necklace). <br />
<br />
Everyone belongs to one of several factions. The factions are written in a way that alliances and rivalries suggest themselves (sort of like Vampire). For example<br />
<br />
*'''POEE''' - these are "card carrying" Discordians. They get points or kudos for handing out pope cards<br />
*'''followers of strife''' - embrace Eris' war form. they prefer to approach things by stirring the pot<br />
*'''patchouli discordians''' - happy hippy fluffy positive energy Discordians<br />
*'''the LDD''' - this is the "unallied faction" (sort of like Caitiff in Vampire)<br />
etc etc etc<br />
<br />
<br />
== Game Design ==<br />
<br />
The game is centered around activities. You get together a cabal, a group of people who don't necessarily belong to the same faction. Then you do something with them. During those activities, things should come up that make your faction matter. This creates ''inter-cabal tension'' and leads to emergent plot.<br />
<br />
The cool thing is, the more we get people to participate in a fictional functional Discordian society that actually goes out and pranks, the more real it will become. We can make people really paranoid by introducing subtle illuminati influences too.<br />
<br />
Principles:<br />
*Optimally, the game is autonomous, requiring absolutely minimal effort from an administrative group. <br />
*The game's content is crowdsourced. The tasks and activities for the game are also crowdsourced. You can do missions written by other players. You will read sermons and follow instructions written by other players. If all the people running the game die of fnord poisoning, the game still goes on.<br />
*gameplay should be fun even if you have no other discordians within 1000 miles of you.<br />
<br />
<br />
Gameplay wise it has to be simple, and fluid. Games in which some of the moves are to change the rules would create a sense of chaotic play. (like flux the card game?)<br />
<br />
Needs to encourage public asshattery. Also posting pictures online would give extra kudos or mittens.<br />
<br />
== Gameplay! ==<br />
<br />
Players submit Adventures (could also be called Quests or Missions) to the website in PDF form. If you print it out, it will contain most of the materials you'll need (instructions, handouts for strangers, mini-game rules, etc)<br />
<br />
Adventures can take anywhere from 15 minutes to a day to complete. Some ideas:<br />
*scavenger hunts (ie, photograph these ten random things that you have to get kind of creative to find)<br />
*postergasm sets (put up 20 posters from Volume Aleph)<br />
*a list of instructions<br />
*mailing things to other cabals<br />
<br />
Adventures give you the game's main resource, '''Ballots'''.<br />
<br />
Every time you go on an adventure, you get a ballot. Every time a cabal goes on an adventure you wrote, you get a ballot.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Elected Positions ==<br />
<br />
I know that Discordia is non hierarchial. But sometimes they embrace short-term leaders. There are several elected positions that players can run for. There is an election every few weeks. You spend your ballots to vote in these elections.<br />
<br />
'''The Polyfather / Polymother''' - the head of POEE. He gets to propose laws which will last for the duration of his term. These are generally activities or requirements that modify the number of ballots you get. For example, "For the duration of my term, I propose that you get an extra ballot if you are drunk during the mission. Pix or it didn't happen."<br />
<br />
After a law is proposed, it goes to vote on a forum poll. If it gets at least 75% yesses, it becomes official.<br />
<br />
<br />
other elected positions might be able to create different types of rules<br />
<br />
certain factions might have internal elections too.</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=869Main Page2009-05-24T18:14:12Z<p>69.119.239.223: /* Misc Refuse */</p>
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<div>[[image:SEA_GOD.png|450px|right]]<br />
<br />
<br />
<big>'''Cramulus' Sandbox Wiki'''</big><br />
<br />
This wiki is supposed to house Cramulus' various projects and ideas. It's a sort of workspace for all sorts of garbage. Don't take anything here as a finished product - likely it's all just the buzzing inside Cram's head. And the heads of people working on stuff here. Which makes it a kind of weird headspace. Webspace. whatever<br />
<br />
anyway, hello. Say Hi on the Discussion panel. If you're working on anything here with me, please make a login so I know who's changing what.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Active / Ongoing ==<br />
[[Etc Discordia]] - huge fucking book jesus god almost there<br />
<br />
[[Dialogue of Discordia]] - italian philosophy from 1551. needs translation.<br />
<br />
[[Sacred Chao Te Ching]] - Discordian version of the Tao Te Ching<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Finished Stuff ==<br />
[[Creative Portfolio]] - workshop for my creative portfolio, which will get me hired by '''fabulous tycoons'''.<br />
<br />
[[Cramble]] - an RFID game for conferences and conventions<br />
<br />
[[Weirdness in the Strange Times]] - column for Intermittens 3<br />
<br />
[[Hodgehogs]] - Piece for the DISCORDIA PROPHETICA<br />
<br />
[[Exercises to Mindfuck Yourself]] - article for IM<br />
<br />
[[Very Short Stories]] - article for IM<br />
<br />
[[Callahan Crosstime Saloon]] - awful awful jokes for IM<br />
<br />
[[Discordia]] - scribblings<br />
<br />
<br />
== Misc Refuse ==<br />
[[Pr0sterGASM]] - augmented mission for postergasm intending to increase its viral potential<br />
<br />
[[spag-o-tron]] - robot to generate asinine blog comments<br />
<br />
[[Name Placeholder]] - game Cram was brainstorming<br />
<br />
[[Argonauts]] - another name placeholder - a Discordian ARG - work in progress elsewhere, this part is probably unupdated<br />
<br />
[[Tournament Game]] - another game Cram is developing with larpfriends</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Chapters_71-81&diff=744Chapters 71-812009-04-16T18:01:33Z<p>69.119.239.223: </p>
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<div>part of the [[Sacred Chao Te Ching]]<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 71 ===<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
'''71 (SMT)'''<br />
<br />
Not-knowing is true knowledge. <br />
Presuming to know is a disease. <br />
First realize that you are sick;<br />
then you can move toward health.<br />
<br />
The Master is her own physician.<br />
She has healed herself of all knowing. <br />
Thus she is truly whole. <br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
Wo Ho, who me? wtf I dunno.<br />
Ya think this comes easy?<br />
Therein lies the rub.<br />
Sloooooooow down, quickly now - wait now just stop!<br />
<br />
The Mistress is her own<br />
<br />
’cuz she HAS no illusions.<br />
<br />
Thus her heart breaks into little pieces.<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 72 ===<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
When they lose their sense of awe,<br />
people turn to religion.<br />
When they no longer trust themselves,<br />
they begin to depend upon authority.<br />
<br />
Therefore the Master steps back <br />
so that people won't be confused.<br />
He teaches without a teaching, <br />
so that people will have nothing to learn. <br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
When they no longer wonder<br />
Some people get stoned & get numbed.<br />
When there’s no one to trust,<br />
illusions have people.<br />
<br />
Therefore the wise man winds down,<br />
shatters delusion & hope.<br />
He trains without longing<br />
<br />
& there’s always those (damn) lasers.<br />
<br />
& there’s always those (lovely) lasers.<br />
<br />
& there’s always those (damn) lasers.<br />
<br />
& there’s always those (lovely) lasers. <br />
<br />
& there’s always those (damn) lasers. <br />
<br />
& there’s always those (lovely) lasers.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 73 ===<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
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'''Our Translation:'''<br />
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''Translation TK''<br />
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<br />
=== Chapter 74 ===<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
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'''Our Translation:'''<br />
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''Translation TK''<br />
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=== Chapter 75 ===<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
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'''Our Translation:'''<br />
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''Translation TK''<br />
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=== Chapter 76 ===<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
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'''Our Translation:'''<br />
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''Translation TK''<br />
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=== Chapter 77 ===<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
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'''Our Translation:'''<br />
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''Translation TK''<br />
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=== Chapter 78 ===<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
Nothing in the world <br />
is as soft and yielding as water. <br />
Yet for dissolving the hard and inflexible, <br />
nothing can surpass it. <br />
<br />
The soft overcomes the hard; <br />
the gentle overcomes the rigid. <br />
Everyone knows this is true,<br />
but few can put it into practice.<br />
Therefore the Master remains <br />
serene in the midst of sorrow. <br />
Evil cannot enter his heart. <br />
Because he has given up helping,<br />
he is people's greatest help. <br />
<br />
True words seem paradoxical. <br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
Nothing is better<br />
than finding a home.<br />
Endangered however free?<br />
Ahem er uh s’awful nice too.<br />
<br />
So if somebody asks you<br />
to giv’em some slack.<br />
Do it I say.<br />
I promise no regret.<br />
Therefore TGRR?<br />
in spite of his spew,<br />
is waaay more helpful<br />
in chasing the blues, <br />
sweet fairy princess.<br />
<br />
Live within the paradox.<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 79 ===<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
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'''Our Translation:'''<br />
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''Translation TK''<br />
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=== Chapter 80 ===<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
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Sure, we're old hands at cracking open others reality tunnels, but when was the last time ''you'' were mindfucked, o merry trickster?<br />
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This article is a list of ideas for jaking yourself. The idea is to throw yourself into a state of holy Confusion. Confusion, to Discordians, can be like what Satori is to the Buddhists. But don't think that doing the stuff on this list will "enlighten" you! And if, as a result of Holy Confusion, you think you figured out some universal truth, you're probably just more deluded than you were before. But you might figure out something you didn't even expect. So tread lightly, and don't be afraid to fuck up what you thought was true.<br />
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* Borrow some clothes from a friend. Try to pick clothes as different from your regular dress style as possible. Not only will you not look like you in the mirror, people will treat you subtly differently.<br />
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* This is a good one to do when really tired or blacked out drunk. Right before you put on your clothes, write a message on your body. Try not to think about this - forget that you wrote it there, so when you disrobe and see it, you'll surprise even yourself.<br />
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* What to write? One Line Meme Bombs are good, but it's easier to find a phrase of personal significance in old journals or notebooks. If there's a time in your life where you were more idealistic or active, pen a slogan or reminder of that time. Anything that will conjure up old emotions and memories. But be careful - your next exposure to the phrase has to be a surprise, so don't think about it.<br />
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* Another method is to hide a note with this phrase somewhere where you'll find it unexpectedly in the future -- like in a shirt pocket, your glove compartment, or inside a box of cereal.<br />
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* alternate angle: you can use ohdontforget.com to send yourself a text message which you won't receive until years later.<br />
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* Pick up a magazine which you would never otherwise read. Pick something for which you are certainly not the target audience, like a differing political opinion, or a magazine intended for the opposite gender. Don't resist and mentally counter what you're reading, try to explore what that headspace would be like. Get out of your own ideas and opinions and become the target audience.<br />
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* Develop rational and convincing arguments that run counter to your own political beliefs.<br />
** stage2 - believe them for a couple of months. This is the single most effective way to get inside your own head and break down all the meaningless bullshit that you have in there. If you're having trouble believing something as part of this exercise, approach it from the other side and start by proving your existing belief wrong. '''Note:''' All beliefs can be proven wrong, usually by simply changing the context. If you don't believe this then I'd suggest you start with this belief.<br />
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* Attempt to go for a period of time without using the word "I". Speaking about yourself in the third person doesn't count.<br />
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* Turn off the TV, stereo, or computer. Sit in silence for 15 minutes, doing nothing.<br />
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* I've always found consciously breaking habits, such as my usual morning ritual of "cigarette(in bed)/turn on computer/coffee", and doing something completely different such as "go for a half hour walk, without a shower and wearing yesterdays clothes" works wonders for kick starting my head and making me think differently. <br />
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* I think a biggie would be exploring your values and morals by systematically fucking up your conscience.<br />
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** The fist approach would be to adopt a temporary (or better yet - permanant) amoral attitude about life. The idea is to go beyond the right/wrong, moral/immoral point of view and to work within a headspace that is of a 3rd perspective, a noninterfering point of view... "being the watcher". <br />
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** This gives you free reign (read: excuse) for some sick experimentation. So make a list of your aversions, the things you absolutely cannot stand... that gross you out, that simply suck. And do them within your separated headspace (you know making an exucse). Christopher Hyatt had an article in this book Undoing Yourself where he mentioned making POOP SCULPTURES! (I guess it had to be mentioned eventually.) I have yet to really do that...but it illustrates where I'm setting up barriers (albeit rather insignificant). <br />
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* Experiment with a member of the same sex if you're straight, experiment with a member of the opposite sex if you're gay. Fuck an animal if you're bi (but be nice about it and like make it porportional, please. and no chillauahas [that means you, wade]). I have to emphasize the sexual part of it because thats where it seems that most people have their biggest hangups. Fucking ugly people has always been a useful one (spare, crowley). As you can imagine, this requires a good sense of responsibility. <br />
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* But lighter issues might be working in a nursing home -- I mean why not allow someone else benefit from your mindfuckery? But i'd even go so far as to advocate crap voluenteer work. Working in an environment where you have to be totally selfless might be a great for some people. <br />
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Also, I know Robert Anton Wilson would mostly talk from the reality tunnel point of view in Prometheus Rising. this is, of course, always good. i mean, who CAN'T benefit from being a NAZI for a day? <br />
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So... working with aversions to explore your superego. thats one.<br />
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* The idea of the watcher perspective is to bring deep awareness to the experiment. For instance, say you want to have sex with an ugly person. Bring up the full awareness of the quality of ugliness that you're perceiving. By disassociating yourself with the person in the role of ugly-person-fucker, it sets up an experience you can analyze without identifying with it. <br />
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* Go blind for a day. Wear one of those "sleep masks", or blindfold yourself, on a day where you can stay around the house all day but still have to accomplish normal chores. Television, doing laundry, making meals (avoid the oven at all costs, I learned), and generally amusing yourself. When I did this I was baffled by how much I rely on visual cues to keep my mind occupied.<br />
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* Force yourself to stay awake for a few days.<br />
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* Be asexual for a few weeks. When you see people, ignore their bodies like they were one of those international icons on bathroom doors; try to think about the world without gender (such as using 'they' or 'it' in your mind instead of 'he' or 'she'); no porn, no masturbation, no sex.<br />
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* Find a religion that interests you in a scholarly manner, even if you would never believe in their god(s), and/or especially if you consider it utter bullshit. Follow their practices and tenants for a while. I'm going to be giving this one a shot with Kemeticism, those folks that "reconstructed" the ancient Egyptian religion.<br />
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* Find a mental disease that you could plausibly have and convince yourself that you do, in fact, have it. Behave to compensate.<br />
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* "The Dice Man" is a nice book by Luke Rhinehart. He sets out to destroy his ego with the help of random chance - he lives according to the whim of the dice. It contains a lot about breaking out of habits and to follow the main character deeper and deeper into a world of chance and egoless-ness is just delicious. It's worth reading and might be partially educational I dare say.<br />
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* Sometimes I just feel this chaotic spark in me and so I either just behave in a spontaneous chaotic fashion or I give it more structure and come up with six options; from pleasant and natural to my current me to uncomfortable, unnatural or just whacky things. Stuff I would never do normally: after the d6 decided what it shall be I set out to experience something new.<br />
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In the morning I would let it decide what clothes to wear; which bus to take, how to behave towards strangers (attitude of the day), what to do during the day, where and what to eat, whom to talk to at random, who to try and have sex with (and how). The possibilities are endless and ultimately the dice led me to consistent inconsistency. A natural state of chaotic self that seems almost insane to most "stable" people - but it brings fucktons of joy to me.<br />
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* Classic habitual breaking exercises would be to just do everything differently for a day or a week. It's easy to begin with but in the end it needs a lot of reflection to come up with new ways of getting your everyday tasks done.<br />
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**I did the "live by die rolls" thing for a while. I'd carry 2d10 and roll percentile to determine what I should do.<br />
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"Nope, not McDonald's. Let's see if I'll be eating Burger King..."<br />
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after a few days of this, it started to get old. I kept going opposite the dice, using the logic that the die roll was actually just helping me make a decision. I should try again, and apply some willpower to doing what the dice say. Hadn't thought of it as an ego experiment - I was just "letting Eris decide".<br />
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I still vote by die roll though. Randomocracy FTW!<br />
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** The die roll is not just helping you to make a decision. It IS the decision. Opposition is not allowed unless you rolled earlier that you may be allowed to oppose the die if you do X.<br />
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Now adding at least one option that is atypical for yourself and you got yourself some excitement.<br />
It is left to the player to decide how far you want to go - but it's very temping to explore where the edge is - and then cross it.<br />
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* Alan Watts talked about the i-ching in a similar way. He was saying that there is so much randomness in the decisions you make at any point that even a random choice-maker such as the i-ching (or rolling of dice) would be just as good when it really comes down to it. The benefit of the i-ching over a set of dice, I'd imagine, would be that there already preset meanings attributed to each hexagram on which you can project your current choice.<br />
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* Run subliminal messages (a unix program called xsublim is useful -- I haven't found an equivalent for windows or for the mac), and feed them with more or less arbitrary info (the front page of google news, a selection of random quotes, random wikipedia pages, "i'm feeling lucky" google searches for words picked out of a dictionary file). I usually run these 24/7.<br />
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* Take a bunch of arbitrary text files, and run them through a Markov Chain generator (I have one in lua if anyone wants one), then take the output and consider it a holy text. Interpret every piece of nonsense and give it a meaning, then stash it away somewhere and look at it later, and see if the meanings are the same.<br />
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* Make stickers with advice to yourself (like meditation instructions), then hide them in places you go every day. On the walk between the train station and my job, my brain wanders all over the place. I've place stickers along the route. Is this a dream? Breathe. This is a memory. Actualize. Focus.<br />
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* small mindfuck: brushing your teeth while taking a dump. Simultaneous feelings of dirty/clean!<br />
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* Ride an elevator. Just get in a reasonably busy elevator, and ride it for an hour or so.<br />
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* Use TVtropes.com's random plot generator to choose a character trope every morning for a week. For the remainder of the day, be the epitome of that character trope<br />
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After you're done, look up and see where you've walked to.<br />
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When I did this, I started with X = 7, walking on a nature trail in a park. I ended up nine miles away from my car, in the middle of a field next to a series of office buildings, with people in the office watching me out their windows.<br />
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* start examining of your linguistic style and habits count the number of questions you ask in a day. count the number of times you say the word "like" in a day. <br />
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* before you go to bed, draw a linear diagram mapping the progression from the moment you wake up until you go to sleep. color code it based on your well being at each moment. color code them based on your current goals and see how they match up. make a copy of the diagram and reverse it and line it up with the first one and match your progression in opposite terms. '''imagine''' yourself going forwards and backwards at the same time.<br />
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* William Burroughs wrote a lot about mindfucks through audio cutups.<br />
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He'd record little snippets of his day - interactions with store clerks, the sound of traffic, a bit of a phone conversation - and them cut them up, mixing them together. He said it was amazing how you'd hear NEW content in the mix.<br />
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* Consider how you can change a flashlight from a pinpoint focus to a wide spread light. Consider your attention as a flashlight. spend a day using the pinpoint focus of your attention. Focus intensely on the one thing, the figure of you're doing. Spend the next day using the wide spread attention. Soak it all in. Don't focus on one particular thing but just notice everything as if there is no figure... just background. Record your observations. How do they differ in terms of your choice of activity? Did you see anything new? It might be useful to plant personal symbols of your activity in easily noticed places as a reminder to persist in the kind of focus for that day. <br />
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*Force your internal monologue to speak in gibberish rather than English. Try hard not to repeat sound/meanings. The idea is to think without resorting to language. This can be interesting because language frames our thoughts a great deal.<br />
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*Here's one of my favorites: Car Screaming. Ever wondered what you sound like when you scream? When IS the last time you had to scream in pain, anger, or as a self propelled PA system? Inarticulate howls, vulgarity, taxonomical classifications, Russia swears, or racial slurs, we just don't get a chance to vent these much. Try it next time you're driving alone, preferrebly on a highway, not near other cars (got carried away and swerved once), and going too fast for any bystanders to potentially catch or ID you. Take a deep. breath. and HOWL.<br />
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It's cathartic, educational, and no matter what sounds or filthy words you let fly, you're not pointing them at anything or anyone who might care, be hurt, or take exception.<br />
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* Try laughing for five minutes, crying for five minutes and screaming for five minutes, repeat. It seems fake at first but persist.<br />
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* Have Your Friends Call You a different name for a couple weeks. See if You Respond better afterwards to the new name.<br />
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* Next time you consume some form of media (especially a game or TV programme), try to imagine what some mediocre student from the future would write in a "thousand-word essay about the themes of this classic".<br />
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* Stop complaining. As in, of your own free will, try not to bitch and whine about shit that's bugging you. <br />
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* Begin to use your less dominant hand for dominant activities.<br />
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* While you're at it...just for shits and shaktis start handshakes with your left hand. Enjoy watching the akwardness of the other as their conventions shift before your eyes.<br />
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* Go through any well known personality test, such as the Jungian/Myers-Briggs personality tests, or enegramms. Go through all the personality types described within until you have a pretty good and coherent picture of the various typologies contained within. Then take one random method of selection, and use it to pick one personality type. Try and embody that personality for the next half hour. Repeat again, the next day (with the same or different personality type), but this time, try and be in that headspace for an hour. Continue until you feel comfortable with pulling off that personality type for long periods or get bored, and select another.<br />
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* Take a recent, possible future, or past event in your life and write / imagine it described as if it was in a children's book (more Berenstein / Dr. Seuss or Shell Sylverstein (personal favorite), than "Dick and Jane"). This makes it difficult, even insulting, to take even heavy shit seriously.<br />
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* Set up some kind of randomized timer (it'll go off every X minutes, where X varies pretty widely) and every time it goes off, try to remember what your internal dialogue consisted of and either argue the opposite point of view or question all the statements you can remember making in it in reverse order.<br />
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* On a social networking site (preferably something like twitter or facebook, wherein the assumption is that you're friending people you know, whether or not they remember you) friend people you actually *don't* know at all and then just play it like you are an old aquaintence that they can't remember and that you aren't all that interested in *talking* to them (you just felt it would be impolite not to friend them). This probably works best if you never actually talk to them at all afterwards. This totally mindfucks me on a daily basis, because I manage to get segments of the personal life of Jeph Jaques, Mixmaster Morris, Justin Coope, etc. totally out of context.<br />
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In the information age, our cultural heritage has gone global. Scheherazade’s work is almost as much a part of our cultural heritage as Shakespeare and Carroll. Innovations and enhancements on all of their works enrich the scope and power of the original to inform our global culture and provide a familiar framework for the innovator to work within.<br />
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I find it especially disappointing that the company that has benefited most from information in the public domain is leading the fight to keep their versions of those public domain works under strict copyright. Creators should certainly profit from their works, but when the creator and their spouse are dead, what right does a corporation have to the intellectual property, especially for such an extended amount of time? Obviously, the answer to this is that they have the right of political influence and graft in the form of campaign contributions.<br />
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Hodge it up, bitches<br />
These times they are a changin'<br />
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I say, maybe it's Bureaucracy for real now, come over the hill high on his horse with credit and routine in his hands, leaving coleslaw in his wake.<br />
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Or maybe, (and I say this too, I do) we're coming up on the Aftermath finally. There are all these Children of Eris out there culture jamming and remixing and windsurfing giddy on ''el mar digitál''. There's more of us than ever, like Stephen Colbert* and JJ Abrams and Charlie Todd and Goddess only knows. We're getting closer to the point where a supercharged meme might ripple through the sleeping masses and inspire some dream of freedom which they will awaken and attain if they could just get out of this ''line''. Standing in line ''waiting'' for something.<br />
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See they say we should get all worked up about the police state coming down, and the temperature going up, and by hell you should! The world is incrementally transforming into ''something'', and it's happening ''very fast'', and it's on a very narrow track. And I think it would be fun to beat the shit out of that track and stomp on it and laugh on it and dance a little jig on it's smoking cinders har har. <br />
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But here's the barstool coming at you - rallying against lost causes is what they ''want'' you to do. They want you to waste your time using the traditional channels of change -- like writing to your congressman or going to protests or some other effete symbolic gesture. I say maybe forget all that stuff. Maybe start a kingdom in your living room.<br />
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You gotta be careful out there in the meme sea, because there are a lot of agendas coiled up in the cool ideas, people who want to capitalize on your cabbagelike tendencies. I insist that pranks and culture jamming can be '''just a fun toy''' instead of being a save the world quest or a marketing agenda. I want to have FUN again, and it's a happy bonus if that coincides with the adbusters agenda, but I'll never score a victory myself, just for myself, until I stop nursing my ego at the teats of the mighty egregore.<br />
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Here's my prophecy for the mix – the Discordian Society is going to get more '''ordered'''. But holy chao, that's not a bad thing, not at all. There will be gatherings, then larger gatherings, and then “it” will become something else completely. People will argue about its shape. There will be groups and outgroups and spags and cones and rebel leaders and leader trolls and black sheep who are doing it wrong and black sheep who are doing it right and imaginary empires, banging on the windows, mass hysteria. But it's cool, the circular snake will shed its skin and we'll make easter eggs containing startlingly surreal stuff, and hide them in the green grass around it**. Some of us want to do pranks, big pranks, big stuff, big adventures, it's like a religion to us. To reach that level of big, “ha-ha big” we need to organize. Then something will emerge. Something wearing a silly hat.<br />
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But that may be neither here nor there in your living room kingdom. There's an agenda in even that meme, even if it's a silly hat agenda. Go ahead, say it to me, say it out loud: '''Fun is a sacrament which, like religion, must be guarded with territorial pissing and monkey noises.''' I will moralize you into a hospital, man. Back off.”<br />
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See you back down real easy, no resistance. Then, when they're not looking, you grab your stapler and puncture-post feedback all over them like it's one-star day at youtube and big daddy capslock is up to bat.<br />
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I bet that if Lao Tzu were around today, him and I would be tight. We'd troll the Internet together, dropping imagebombs and laughing like ninnies. The tea of enlightenment's too hot to drink, anyway. It's literally boiling. More useful as a weapon than as a refreshment. <br />
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Then we'd ride bikes downtown and ding-dong-ditch the mayor. If he spotted us, we'd have to give him the Key to the City (which involves putting a phallus in his ear, I believe). Lao Tzu would totally have my back. <br />
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Malaclypse has it right. He's holding up that sign that says DUMB and he's spot on. I see him by the laundromat, leaning against the side of the western union, and he looks real grizzled. Between him and Lao Tzu, there are some serious-ass beards in this place. And one fake moustache.<br />
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[[Sacred Chao Te Ching]] - Discordian retranslation of the Tao Te Ching<br />
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[[Weirdness in the Strange Times]] - column I'm writing for Intermittens 3<br />
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[[Dialogue of Discordia]] - italian philosophy from 1551. needs translation.<br />
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[[Hodgeonauts]] - Hodge it up, bitches.</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Discordia2008&diff=608Discordia20082009-02-20T15:25:54Z<p>69.119.239.223: Undo revision 607 by Wolfboy (Talk) - sorry, this isn't actually an ongoing discussion, it's a manuscript of a transcript.</p>
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<div>'''Why Discordia is more relevant than ever in the year 2008'''<br />
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As time marches on and culture gets weirder and weirder, I think Discordia is becoming increasingly relevant. I'd like to riff on why Discordia is more relevant now than it's ever been. Here's my take, and I want to hear yours:<br />
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At its core, Discordia has some silly lessons about ignoring cultural programming and navigating our fractillian society on your own baffling terms. Its satirical approach towards religion, something that was once so shhh! sacred! that we ''couldn't'' joke about it, is an attitude we can ride into many other straightfaced territories. Gender, politics, the economy, war, terrorism, our expectations for the future, your goals, your flaws, your life -- these are things that we can easily bork if we take them to be Real and Serious and a Big Deal. Which isn't to say that they're not a big deal. But that it's better to take them with a spoonfull of salt.<br />
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When we get serious, we get rigid, we get tunnel vision, and we get indentured. Discordia is about tearing down serious walls internally as well as externally. In this decade, where there are so many conflicting messages being shouted at us, it's important to differentiate between What Matters and What Don't. And the secret is that people probably take more stuff all bitchtits than is healthy. Healthy for ''all of us''. Discordia uses flexibility and humor to cope with the paradoxes and dangers and ubiquitous spags of modern living. It's about escaping the two-man con where both choices are bum, and becoming an active (rather than passive) character in your life's lame-ass Made For TV Movie.<br />
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I think this is the most interesting and confusing period of history to date. Historians will struggle to misunderstand what it was like to be alive in the 21st century. The Bureaucracy is getting bigger and sicker. There is a great cultural demand for agents of change who will challenge the existing order and suggest that some tea and scones should follow. The heroes of our day are the people who are kinetic enough to make clothing from this threaded culture and not get weighed down by the dross and rut of the human condition. All sorts of economists, academics, politicians and other knowitall spags think they've got the logical progression of soecity pegged. I'm not even ''interested'' in the ehhhhh "logical progression" of society, I'm interested in totally unsharted territory! This is the modern Discordian's role, to flip the blessed bird at binary choices, to make objection and change part of the hegemony, and to enjoy oneself despite our programming and inclination to be boring-ass spags. We are the silver lining to the cultural cabbage patch. This is not just a society of robots, and the Discordians are evidence of it.<br />
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At the time of this writing, I don't see Eris as a Goddess in the same way that the ehhhhh religious types think of Gods. My Eris isn't a pagan entity. It's Goddamn 2009, it's 3175, and the "Gods" model is in need of a patch. That language is outdated software. Eris isn't answering prayer calls, the phone's off the hook 'cause she's getting ''busy''. Personally, I see Eris as a force similar to the ''internet'', similar to the ''spirit of protest'', similar to ''hair metal''. She's not the force, but the ''attitude'' through which Bureaucracy is transcended into Aftermath. She is the unexpected punchline at the end of a decade long shaggy dog joke. And in that I think she has more to offer than the sepulcher and bureaucratic tangle of other contemporary edifices like religions and ideologies and static.<br />
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These are the '''Strange Times''', and Eris' advice is to go into this crazy mixed up world like you're attending a costume party. It's a CRAZY party, too - with boobs and drugs and sex and violence and hope and ugliness and beauty and misery. There's straight talk and stray talk silly talk shop talk gossip talk. If you're not having fun, wander around, see what else is out there. It's ''wild''.<br />
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There's ''so much'' out there, that's the best part. There's more than anyone can handle, and exponentially more every moment. Today, the day you're reading this, is the most complex, interesting, exciting day in history to date. You don't think so? "Listen; there's a hell of a universe next door: let's go!"<br />
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Eris would love to be your date to this crazy party. She knows that the Strange Times leave a lot of people miserably confused. She's not going to resolve your confusion, but she can help you become ''happily'' confused instead.<br />
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So if you ask me, the Principia is 49 or 50 years old, and it's more relevant than ever.<br />
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I makes me sad when people tell me that things like religion are to important to joke about, or old propaganda posters too offensive. It bothers me when I get suspended from school or hauled before Loss Prevention for reasons like "I know that this is just a misunderstanding, but we must follow procedure." It hurts when I look around my infosphere and see nothing but advertisements, especially when those ads are meant to make people feel bad about themselves.<br />
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The world is ruled by an endless morass of strictures and convention, and no one wants to take responsibility for them. People are perfectly content to let the train follow its own momentum down the tracks, even though they don't like where it is or where it is going, because this is Policy, it's what Everyone (the everyone in "everyone knows that...") has Decided. Rules and traditions might be annoying, but it's Not In Our Power to do anything about them.<br />
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In today’s so-called “Information Age”, most of us are constantly bombarded with stuff. Perhaps not with ideas, so much as pure input. While for the most part this input is pretty much bias-neutral, an increasing amount of it is being supplied by people who have an angle. What’s more, to get through to the growing population of Jaded Couch-Dwelling Fuckheads, there has been a new approach of making the stuff more-or-less self referential, as in, “we know you know we’re trying to manipulate you. See how cool that makes us?”<br />
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So, what do you do when you are flooded by 50,000 points of view? The old way was to have Rules and Tradition and Procedure and Black and White. To take that stuff and cram it into a narrow worldview, distorting what little information you actually notice. Which only serves to hold you back, slow you down, and shut you up.<br />
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Our way, the Discordian way, is to make Temporary Models, make new Game Rules, to grab hold of the stuff and ride it out, making connections as you see them. You do your best not to have your views manipulated by stuff, and you do your best not to manipulate stuff to fit your views. Which serves to keep you on the Edge of What’s Going On.<br />
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At least, that’s the general idea.<br />
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I don't know if it is 'more relevant'. It seems to me that people act, pretty much, like people. People in 1959 aren't all that different from us, they may have slightly different rituals and memes, sleight variations in clothing styles and slang, but the humans appear the same. Our society may be more open and more tolerant (at least the aspects of society that are very popular right now), but humans interact and follow the rules of that society, pretty much as they did in 1959.<br />
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The people who are cogs in society behave like they're supposed to. The conservative cog grinds to the tune that their entire society is about to collapse, the liberal cog whirrs away at a Utopia that seems as far away now as it did in 1959 and the 'rebel' cogs turn to the tune of "I Did It My Way" (though now it might be the Sex Pistols version...).<br />
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If Discordianism was relevant ever, then it's relevant now... in theory, if not in specific memes. To think that life now is DIFFERENT, is (in my opinion) to confuse the trappings of society with the functionality of humans. Even the best broadband available won't stop an asshole from beating his wife and kids. It won't stop the man who is not comfortable with his own feelings from bashing gays. All the information in the world, won't necessarily make us elect a good president or change the basic selfish behavior of most monkeys on this planet. <br />
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However, IF the information is served on a platter, complete with trimmings and yummy sauce... some humans might eat it and change. Discordianism, I think, provides just such a platter. The concepts of general semantics, the limits of perception, the bias of our own reality and the ability to 'STOP' doing the things we don't like, aren't unique to Erisian Enlightenment. However, for at least some humans, Discordianism seems to make the ideas palatable, digestible and useful.<br />
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So Discordianism was valuable then and is valuable now... because humans are human<br />
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== Post by Payne ==<br />
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Discordia will always be more relevant to me personally than in any kind of "cause" or "movement".<br />
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Yes, things in society are fucked up, yes "everyone" thinks that "everyone" else wants things to be this way, and there is nothing that they can do about it as individuals. Yes, they are wrong.<br />
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But all of this means nothing to me.<br />
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I am not an activist, I don't go out of my way to try and convert people anymore. I used to, but then I thought it was mandatory or at least expected. Since I decided for myself that it wasn't, I don't do it. I don't expect people to wake up unless they want to do it themselves, I certainly don't expect it to ever make sense for them unless they do it in the hardest and unfunniest ways, but that may be my jaded and bitter inner self talking.<br />
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Discordia is not a movement, it is not a purpose, it is not a cause. It's a state of mind. A state of mind that connects a diverse group of people who wouldn't give each other the time of day if they met socially in other circumstances and didn't have the call signs Discordia offers, the "fluff" like 23, Eris or Principia Discordia.<br />
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I like that. I like talking to people who I normally would never talk to, who would normally never talk to me.<br />
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Discordia is at times an excellent way of tying some of us together to work on projects that normally would never be worked on, like Paths and Shrapnel, PosterGASM and some of the weird and wonderful art projects.<br />
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I like that. I like working with people on plans and projects that may have some relevance to how I think about my life, or can help decorate it in a way that makes me question what decoration is.<br />
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Discordia will always be relevant to me in some way because of this. Its worth far outweighs the effort of getting anything back from it.<br />
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I like models, I like art, I like exploring the weirder aspects of our psyches, and the even weirder methods of exploiting what we find.<br />
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I like to laugh, hate, cry and love, as we as humans are meant to, not as we have been conditioned to. As I've only learned to do with some intense soul searching and some pain. Discordia has been the chair I've sat down in when I'm weary, the desk I've used to write some of the most personal and important things I've ever written, it has been the mirror in which I've seen what I am, what I was and what I want to be.<br />
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And I've learned to not care what others are thinking about it all, except in specialised circumstances, for example: when I feel like it.<br />
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I know what I've learned, I've learned to question what I know, and I've learned to learn more, always learn more.<br />
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For me, Discordia is a question, an answer and everything else in between, and it is so huge that I could spend a lifetime exploring it.<br />
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Is Discordia relevent? Certainly for me, maybe for you.<br />
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== Post by Cain ==<br />
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Why is Discordianism still relevant in 2009?<br />
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Because I am the The Decider, and I have decided that it is.<br />
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Debate over.<br />
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Oh, alright then, some more evidence.<br />
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Two thousand and eight kicked off, in my mind at least, with two major events. The first was the US Presidential election. The second was the Anonymous “war” on Scientology. The first of these two quickly became a spiralling mess of such a degree that parody and satire often seemed more reasonable than what was actually being said. Therefore, parody and satire need to step up to the plate, and have done so admirably. In a country where Stephen Colbert or Jon Stewart can give more prescient and accurate news than many of the major news stations, in such a country comedy with a message is King.<br />
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The second was interesting, because it showed how an internet subculture with no centralization, no money and little in way of common purpose (indeed they often flaunted their chaotic and contradictory ways) could pose a threat to a very powerful and rich, highly centralized religious cult.<br />
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Change is still the name of the game. As corporate elites have stepped up to the plate, promoting and co-opting every new youth movement and subculture, in some cases from almost the very start, subversive counterculture has done a vanishing act. It still exists, and its still there, but its a true invisible college, taking form on the internet and in the street. Flashmobs and other microcultures have become very possible with the rise of mass membership websites such as Facebook, putting Situationist tactics into the hands of online activists, who can construct an event with a few clicks, so long as they can get enough people interested. Appear, perform and disperse. We're evolving and changing, because anyone who stands still for too long is going to end up in the cross-hairs of one marketing executive or another. Subversion and change, nanoculture and personal freedom, are becoming synonymous.<br />
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We're continuing to have a small, if noticed effect on the mainstream as well. V for Vendetta and Lost, a program and a film with some very Discordian influences, are favourites of viewers all over the world. High Weirdness is back in fashion, too. It doesn't matter if its a giant artistic piece of dogshit which has got loose, or J. J. Abrams latest show, the strange and the odd are still capturing imaginations and peoples curiosity.<br />
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Chaos, equally, is back in fashion more than ever. No matter if its politics or the music industry, the old rules of how things are done, and the elites who control them, are under a barrage of assaults from newcomers and individuals with the power to move and shake the industries they work in. With the second internet revolution in full swing, its becoming easier than ever to get one's voice out there, create an audience, be heard, and bypass the traditional methods of control to say what you want. Equally the weather and the stockmarkets are both going crazy, and becoming ever harder to predict. Many of the old assurances seem to be crumbling in the bright lights of the 21st century.<br />
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The arts of obfuscation, disruption and, well, we can only call it trolling have become more popular than ever, diffusing down into society. Since trolling is part Situationist theatre, part postmodern identity shifting, and we have natural advantages in areas such as that, we have an edge on tactics that the media, the blogs and activists are only just starting to grasp.<br />
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Religious fundamentalism is back on the scene, with all the stupidity and farce such an event brings. Whether its bearded lunatics in caves or meth-taking, rent-boy hiring, homophobic minister, religion is once again proving its potential to destroy lives, ruin countries and damn people on the flimsiest of charges. And so, it must come as a relief to many to find a religion that doesn't want your unquestioning obedience, wont damn you to hell for your sins, doesn't want your time or money or impose any strange dietary practices (barring those with hotdogs), but wants you to have a good time and tell anyone who tries to get in your way to STFU.<br />
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Relevant? Who cares?<br />
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I'm just here to gnaw at the foundations of society like a diseased termite.</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Introduction_to_the_book&diff=602Introduction to the book2009-01-14T01:56:53Z<p>69.119.239.223: </p>
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<div>The Gods were annoyed<br />
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But they had no choice 'cause we had rented the space fair and square. The ink on the contract was dry. The Gods' job was to clear out and spend the week on an all-expenses-paid booze cruise through the Astral. Our job was to use their space to party like it's 2012. Apollo, in his little white vacation shoes, flipped me off on the way out. They had just heard the news, that Limbo Peak had been rented out by ''Discordians''.<br />
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When Triple Zero and I reserved the place, we wore these sweet masks. I was Hairacles and he was Kolonoskopos. We told them it was a masquerade ball, but we didn't tell 'em who was on the guest list. <br />
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When Zeus found out it was ''Discordians'', he got all bitchtits. "Eris worshippers?" he thundered. "Aw Hera, ''they're gonna foul the pool''..." Someone whispered in his ear that skinnydipping was listed ''several times'' on the party agenda. That old windbag's bitchtits practically burst out his beardhole. "I forbid the pool entirely!" Sure thing pops. Yeah, we'll be good guests. Hey, where do you keep the towels?<br />
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See, our Lady Eris is celebrating 49 or 50 years or so since she sent her chimpanzee to freak out those spags Mal and Omar. It's been more or less a constant party since then - like something Crowley would envision while balls deep in an ass trance. In a way we're celebrating 49 or 50 years of constant partying with an even ''weirder'' party.<br />
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So 000 and I -- er, Hairacles and Kolonoskopos -- tried to contact as many "Discordians" as they could find for this bizarre masquerade bash. Weird people in their anybody suits. We're all over the place like tossed cookies. And when the party started, they came in droves. They jibbered in Russian. There were mittens and win in every discussion. <br />
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Now there's a lot of "Discordians" out there on the web, and obviously they're not organized really well, so there's no telling how much of the iceberg we crashed. But I think we got a good sampling. It was cool, because all these foreign networks collided. They swapped ideas and peed in the idea pot. And this book is the toxic soup that we squeezed out of it.<br />
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The idea, originally, was to produce a book ''really quickly''. I had this idea for a booklet I wanted to write about why Discordia is a kickass way of dealing with this crazy decade. I mean, the ''Principia Discordia'' is practically 50 years old, but it keeps getting more relevant. Even my daily commute to work feels like a stanza from Lewis Carroll. I think the ''Principia'' is a better guide to navigating the Madness than any of the other models stuck to my shoe like toilet paper. So I put together some of my thoughts, but I wanted more people to give their spin on things. So I had this idea for a shortlived one-shot internet forum.<br />
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To make a long story short, we set up the Internet Cyberspace Masquerade (also known as the Party at Limbo Peak). We got as many people as we could to put on made-up-identity masks and show up at this forum. It would only be open for one week, so there was no time for a culture to form. No time for in-group/out-group follow the leader in-joke/bad-joke memetics. Separated from their networks and social backup, people were forced to talk straight. It was an interesting experiment.<br />
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And that's the energy which launched this book: A bunch of random factors coming together to form a social collage. I think that's a good thumbnail of the Discordian society right there - there are artists, hackers, occultists, pranksters, the remnants of Norton's Empire. They're surrealist tricksters who live on the fringes, colorful iterations at the edge of the fractal. They've got all these great ideas, but those ideas are scattered all over the board. I say let's cut 'em up into kibble and assemble them, collage style, into a ransom note to reality. Let's make a primordial stone soup.<br />
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And since the Masquerade, the book has continued to grow. If anything, I want it to stand as a signpost, reminding future generations that though many of our forefathers have fallen (rest in pieces Greg, Kerry, Bob et al), ''we're'' still here. We're still ''doing stuff''. Are you?<br />
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This book is about some of the energy going on right now. It's a rough sketch of the view from Limbo Peak. It's not the whole enchilada. It's like listening to a tape recording of a party to hear what the party was like. Only a snippet. This book is a cutup, a collage, just like you. Take the parts of it you like. Rip out the rest.<br />
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The PDF for this book is free and kopyleft. That means you can make it yours. If you don't like some of the stuff here, just tear it out. Print out your favorite pages, add your own. Sell 'em for all I care. Make cutups. Make millions. Pull it out and make it happen.<br />
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Like a woman trying on a hundred dresses, the writings in this book love sexy new juxtapositions. They'd love to sneak into mailboxes, be stapled to trees, and handed to strangers. They like how the symbols on the page nuzzle the symbols in one's head. They like how those heads nuzzle each other. It's like a big freakin' nuzzlefest from cover to cover.<br />
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For those of you who are reading this but have no idea what this ''Discordia'' thing is, maybe I should offer some brief, half-assed explanation. Discordia "is" a religion in some sense, a philosophy in some sense, a joke in some sense, a bunch of jerks in some sense and a recipe for disaster in some sense. What these five senses have in common is Chaos. The name at the center of the hurricane is Eris, the Greek Goddess of strife and confusion. She doesn't take much seriously these days. We think it's best to laugh.<br />
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Discordia showed up in 1958 or 1959 (depending on which part of the ''Principia Discordia'' you're forbidden to believe). Discordians have infiltrated all parts of culture from summer blockbusters to the Planet Eris. They like Chaos, which they see as a ''balance'' existing between Order and Disorder. They (read: you) think that society is too "serious business" right now (right?), and are pursuing a million and one ways to DO something about it. I don't want to say too much because Discordia involves some very personal revelations and I don't want to spoil the ending. So read up on it. The symbols in your head will reflect off the symbols you read and give you a brand new correct interpretation of Grand and Glory Old Discordja, gift wrapped with your own nervous system. We're tricksters, and the person we want ''you'' to go trick is ''you''. There are no rules except the ones that you make for ''yourself''. The secret is that this is actually true for every man, woman, child, and cabbage on this earth but barely any of them realize that. The Pope of Discordia (read: you) can grant you permission to do whatever the hell you want. So kiss his ass.<br />
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Zarathud tugged at my leg. "Look at that," he said, pointing to the ceiling. Above the front door, someone had painted big bright red letters which spelled out the word GOAT. What? Why did someone write GOAT on the ceiling? I never resolved this question, and it itched in my brain like puzzlefire. For weeks afterwards, I would look up every time I went in a building. It was like a compulsion -- I couldn't go through a door without looking for the absurd. '''[[[[[NET: Can you set that last sentence in a little quote box in the center of the page? I don't know what that term is called. CRAM SIGNING OUT]]]]]'''<br />
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Bacon Cone Nixon has another approach. She likes pranks that the victim might not even notice. "I like to plant products in people’s houses, and do shit like replace their half-used jug of milk with a half-used jug of different milk, or put a handful of mayonnaise packets in their butter compartment, just because it’s subtle enough to make them question their own realities. You can add magazines to their bedside table or stuff a pair of socks under the blanket at the foot of the bed. Maybe try adding a pair of shoes in their size to their closet. You can choose things which really do fuck with people’s ''minds'', making it a ''mind''fuck and not just an irritating obvious prank."<br />
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But sometimes it can be blaringly obvious. Like putting your e-mail address on a crazy poster and hang it out to cool. You'll attract the sort of people that send e-mails to people who put up crazy signs. (I've met them, they're good people) I've been leaving weird stuff on the train for years, and now I'm starting to see weird stuff that I didn't even do. You know those posters on the train for aspirin and vacations and musicals? In one ad, some prankster cut out donkey heads and carefully replaced everyone's face. I didn't even notice until I got close. A week later, the mystery prankster had cut up a lottery ad and made a collage out of the casino ad. Brilliant stuff like this makes me want to explode into a flock of birds all singing.<br />
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Have you heard of the Retail Cabal? It's every interesting person that works a boring retail job and made it into a living shrine to Our Lady Discord. Like when I worked for Lord Tayloron and I spent a while writing FNORD on every single bill I could get my hands on. (FNORD YOUR ONES!) At a critical moment in an unrelated story, I'd get a FNORDed five-dollar bill as change. The handwriting was very distinctly not mine, and there was no moustache on Washington. So if you love your weirdness, let it go. It'll come back fivefold.<br />
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This is the energy which prompted Synaptaclypse (the guy who prints the hardcover version of the ''Principia'', and operates poee.co.uk) to start the annual ''Day of Discord'' - August 23rd, when Discordians are encouraged to go out of their way to meet and beat each other. Us spags got together and we went a-postering in White Plains NY, then got pancakes. When I got back to my car, someone had put a big-ass poster on the windshield, saying that they loved our posters and they wanted to hang out with us. An e-mail address was included. So even if they don't know it yet, our people are out there. Way out there. So put ''your'' weird out there like weirdbait. Let it hang out of your spaggy pants. These things are signposts to the Others.<br />
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And this book is a signpost too, a signal flare, like secret hobo code. We're here, we're real, and you can be a real one too. <br />
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Zarathud, it turns out, is a big fan of the cutup method. You'll notice he wandered through the book and made his own edits. He's had a lot of fun rearranging stuff and making it "better". He approached me at the party and said, "Hey, can I be in the book?"<br />
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"Sure," I said, toweling off the ostrich. <br />
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He told me he was worried that since he's the Apostle of the fourth season, Bureaucracy, people think he's a total square. Well it's true that he's not very creative, and his sense of humor can be a bit morbid, but he's got quite the knack for odd juxtapositions. For the Apostle of Laws and Red Tape, he sure loves to use his scissors.<br />
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For example, I had two essays I wanted to show you about cutups and collages. One from this great book, The Art of Memetics, and one by old man William Burroughs. Zarathud liked the pieces, so during his lunch break at the ''Jade Emperor's Bureaucratorium'', (it's in the food court of Chinese Heaven) he shuffled them together. Now I can't tell if we're reading Burroughs writing about memetics or Ed and Wes writing about cutups, but Zarathud tells me that he's taking credit personally for the "new" piece.<br />
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Credit? I hadn't even thought of that. If anything, we want to ''avoid'' notice. Zeus is ''pissed'' that we jumped on the beds and skinny dipped in the hot tub and my ass was ''all over'' the kitchen counter. And if mythology has taught me anything, you do ''not'' want Greek Gods all bitchtits at you.<br />
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After all, Eris hasn't gone anywhere but crazy. Discordia, this weird neophilic irreligion, this bastard daughter of agnosticism and paganism and satire and flax, only ends in delerium and strife. If anything, this book should stand as a sign post saying "DANGER". It's an old crone, poised at the edge of Madness and Nothingness, crying "Go away! This place is cursed! Cursed I tell you, ''beware!''" So turn back now. Save yourself from this postmodern nightmare: the ramblings of a nonexistent society which thrives in a nonexistent place in the umbra of the 21st century. THROW OUT your heretical humor and remove that troublemaker tongue from your cheek. Don't you know that people worked really hard to create this straightjacket civilization? There's centuries of work poured into these illusions. Don't you know that the world is cold and and you've gotta steel yourself to meet it? Armor your heart with ice and nothing will harm you ever again. Work is sacred. Laughter is for children. Grow UP already, grow UP.<br />
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Jeez, I can't even write that trash with a straight face. This is part of what the Discordian Fractal looks like 50 years later. And with any fractal, you can see a hint of the whole shape in all of its parts. And maybe you'll see some of '''your''' parts reflected in there too. And then you'll be screwed because the Patriarch Deity is out to get those crazy people that are turning everything on its head and not buying into his system. If you see him, don't tell Zeus that I'm the one who screwed up the olive trees by roasting hot dogs on the branches. But give him our warmest thanks for giving us the kickass place to host the party.<br />
<br />
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<br />
Professor Cramulus, KSC, ASS<br />
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<br />
<br />
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'''CRAM NOTE - STILL NEEDS WORK ON ENDING. GETTING THERE THOUGH.'''</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Introduction_to_the_book&diff=566Introduction to the book2008-12-20T14:53:13Z<p>69.119.239.223: </p>
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<div>The Gods were annoyed<br />
<br />
To say the least. <br />
<br />
<br />
But they had no choice 'cause we had rented the space fair and square. The ink on the contract was dry. The Gods' job was to clear out and spend the week on an all expenses paid booze cruise through the Astral. Our job was to party like it's 2012. Apollo, in his little white vacation shoes, flipped me off on the way out. They had just heard the news, that Limbo Peak had been rented out by ''Discordians''.<br />
<br />
<br />
http://000.blackironprison.com/zarathud/hairacles.gif<br />
http://000.blackironprison.com/zarathud/kolonoskopos.gif<br />
<br />
caption: "Hairacles / Cramulus and Kolonoskopos / Triple Zero"<br />
<br />
<br />
See, when Triple Zero and I reserved the place, we wore these sweet masks. I was Hairacles and he was Kolonoskopos. We told them it was a masquerade ball, but we didn't tell 'em who was on the guest list. <br />
<br />
When Zeus found out it was ''Discordians'', he got all bitchtits. "Eris worshippers?" he thundered. "Aw Hera, ''they're gonna foul the pool''..." Someone whispered in his ear that skinnydipping was listed ''several times'' on their agenda. That old windbag's bitchtits practically burst out his beardhole. "I forbid the pool entirely!" Sure thing pops. Yeah, we'll be good guests. Hey, where do you keep the towels?<br />
<br />
See, our Lady Eris is celebrating 49 or 50 years or so since she sent her penguin to freak out those spags Mal and Omar. Since then, it's been more or less a constant party - like something Crowley would envision while balls deep in some ass trance. So in a way, we're celebrating 49 or 50 years of constant partying with an even ''weirder'' party.<br />
<br />
So 000 and I -- er, Hairacles and Kolonoskopos -- tried to contact as many "Discordians" as they could find for this bizarre masquerade bash. Weird people in their anybody suits. We're all over the place like tossed cookies. And when the party started, they came in droves. They jibbered in Russian. There were mittens and win in every discussion. <br />
<br />
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/limbopeak/masq_ad_4.jpg<br />
<br />
Now there's a lot of "Discordians" out there on the web, and they're not organized really well, so there's no telling how much of the iceberg we crashed. But I think we got a good sampling. It was cool, because all these foreign networks collided. They swapped ideas and pee'd in the idea pot. And this book is the toxic soup that we squeezed out of it.<br />
<br />
The idea, originally, was to produce a book ''really quickly''. I had this idea for a booklet I wanted to write about why Discordia is a kickass way of dealing with this crazy decade. I mean, the ''Principia Discordia'' is practically 50 years old, but it keeps getting more relevant. Even my daily commute to work feels like a stanza from Lewis Carroll. I think the ''Principia'' is a better guide to navigating the Madness than any of the other models stuck to my shoe like toilet paper. So I put together some thoughts, but I wanted more people to give their spin on things. So I had this idea for a shortlived one-shot internet forum.<br />
<br />
To make a long story short, we set up the Internet Cyberspace Masquerade (also known as the Party at Limbo Peak). We got as many people as we could to put on made-up-identity masks and show up at this forum. It would only be open for one week, so there was no time for a culture to form. No time for in-group/out-group follow the leader in-joke/bad-joke memetics. Separated from their networks and social backup, people were forced to talk straight. It was an interesting experiment.<br />
<br />
And that's the energy which launched this book: A bunch of random factors coming together to form a social collage. I think that's a good thumbnail of the Discordian society right there - there are artists, hackers, occultists, pranksters, the remnants of Norton's Empire. We've got surrealist tricksters who live on the fringes, colorful iterations at the edge of the fractal. They've got all these great ideas, but those ideas are scattered all over the board. I say let's cut 'em up into kibble and assemble them, collage style, into a ransom note to reality. Let's make a primordial stone soup.<br />
<br />
And since the Masquerade, the book has continued to grow. If anything, I want it to stand as a signpost, reminding future generations that though many of our forefathers have fallen (rest in pieces Greg, Kerry, Bob et al), we're still here. We're still ''doing stuff''. Are you?<br />
<br />
So this book is about some of the energy going on right now. It's a rough sketch of the view from Limbo Peak. It's not the whole enchilada. It's like listening to a tape recording of a party to hear what the party was like. Only a snippet. This book is a collage, a cutup, just like you. Take the parts of it you like. Rip out the rest.<br />
<br />
The PDF for this book is available and kopyleft. That means you can make it yours. If you don't like some of the stuff here, just rip it out. Print out your favorite pages, add your own. Sell 'em for all I care. Make cutups. Make millions. Pull it out and make it happen.<br />
<br />
Like a woman trying on a hundred dresses, the writings in this book love sexy new juxtapositions. They'd love to sneak into mailboxes, be stapled to trees, and handed to strangers. They like how the symbols on the page nuzzle the symbols in one's head. They like how those heads nuzzle each other. It's like a big freakin nuzzlefest from cover to cover.<br />
<br />
For those of you who are reading this but have no idea what this ''Discordia'' thing is, maybe I should offer some brief, half-assed explanation. Discordia "is" a religion in some sense, a philosophy in some sense, a joke in some sense, a bunch of jerks in some sense and a recipie for disaster in some sense. What these five senses have in common is Chaos. The name at the center of the hurricane is Eris, the Greek Goddess of strife and confusion. She doesn't take much seriously these days.<br />
<br />
Discordia showed up in 1958 or 1959 (depending on which part of the ''Principia Discordia'' you're forbidden to believe). Discordians have infiltrated all parts of culture from summer blockbusters to the Planet Eris. They like Chaos, which they see as a ''balance'' between Order and Disorder. They think that society is too "serious business" right now, and are pursuing a million and one ways to DO something about it. I don't want to say too much because Discordia is very subjective. The symbols in your head will reflect off the symbols you read and give you a brand new interpretation of it, gift wrapped with your own nervous system. We're tricksters, and the person we want you to go trick is ''you''. We have no rules except the ones that you make for ''yourself''. This is actually true of all society, but the Pope of Discordia (read: you) can grant you permission to live that way.<br />
<br />
http://000.blackironprison.com/zarathud/zarathud.gif<br />
<br />
Zarathud tugged at my leg. "Look at that," he said, pointing to the ceiling. Above the front door, someone had painted big bright red letters which spelled out the word GOAT. What? Why did someone write GOAT on the ceiling? I never resolved this question, and it itched in my brain like spagfire. For weeks afterwards, I would look up every time I went in a building. It was like a compulsion -- I couldn't go through a door without looking for the absurd.<br />
<br />
Bacon Cone Nixon has another approach. She likes pranks that the victim might not even notice. "Extremely subtle, confusing changes: funny. Extremely large, confusing changes: possibly funny, if done with a high level of forethought. I prefer the little ones. I like to plant products in people’s houses, and do shit like replace their half-used jug of milk with a half-used jug of different milk, or put a handful of mayonnaise packets in their butter compartment, just because it’s subtle enough to make them question their own realities. You can add magazines to their bedside table or stuff a pair of socks under the blanket at the foot of the bed. Maybe try adding a pair of shoes in their size to their closet. You can choose things which really do fuck with people’s ''minds'', making it a ''mind''fuck and not just an irritating obvious prank."<br />
<br />
But sometimes it can be blaringly obvious. Like putting your e-mail address on a crazy poster and hang it out to cool. You'll attract the sort of people that send e-mails to people who put up crazy signs. (I've met them, they're good people) I've been leaving weird stuff on the train for years, and now I'm starting to see weird stuff that I didn't even do. You know those posters on the train for aspirin and vacations and musicals? In one ad, some prankster cut out donkey heads and carefully replaced everyone's face. I didn't even notice until I got close. A week later, the mystery prankster had cut up a lottery ad and made a collage out of the casino ad. Brilliant stuff like this makes me want to explode into a flock of birds all singing.<br />
<br />
Have you heard of the Retail Cabal? It's every interesting person that works a boring retail job and made it into a shrine to Our Lady Discord. Like when I worked for Lord Tayloron and I spent a while writing FNORD on every single bill I could get my hands on. (FNORD YOUR ONES!) At a critical moment in an unrelated story, I'd get a FNORDed five-dollar bill as change. The style was very distinctly not mine, and there was no moustache on Washington. So if you love your weirdness, let it go. It'll come back fivefold.<br />
<br />
This is the energy which prompted Synaptaclypse (the guy who prints the hardcover version of the ''Principia'', and operates poee.co.uk) to start the annual ''Day of Discord'' - August 23rd, when Discordians are encouraged to go out of their way to meet and beat each other. Us spags got together and we went a-postering in White Plains NY, then got pancakes. When I got back to my car, someone had put a big-ass poster on the windshield, saying that they loved our posters and they wanted to hang out with us. An e-mail address was included. So even if they don't know it yet, our people are out there. Way out there. So put ''your'' weird out there like weirdbait. Let it hang out of your spaggy pants. These things are signposts to the Others.<br />
<br />
And this book is a signpost too, a signal flare, like secret hobo code. We're here, we're real, and you can be a real one too. <br />
<br />
http://000.blackironprison.com/zarathud/zarathud_drill.gif<br />
<br />
Zarathud, it turns out, is a big fan of the cutup method. You'll notice he wandered through the book and made his own edits. He's had a lot of fun rearranging stuff and making it "better". He approached me at the party and said, "Hey, can I be in the book?"<br />
<br />
"Sure," I said, toweling off the ostrich. <br />
<br />
He told me he was worried that since he's the Apostle of the fourth season, Bureaucracy, people think he's a total square. Well it's true that he's not very creative, and his sense of humor can be a bit morbid, but he's got quite the knack for odd juxtapositions. For the Apostle of Laws and Red Tape, he sure loves to use his scissors.<br />
<br />
For example, I had two essays I wanted to show you about cutups and collages. One from this great book, The Art of Memetics, and one by old man William Burroughs. Zarathud liked the pieces, so during his lunch break at the ''Jade Emperor's Bureaucratorium'', (it's in the food court of Chinese Heaven) he shuffled them together. Now I can't tell if we're reading Burroughs writing about memetics or Ed and Wes writing about cutups, but Zarathud tells me that he's taking credit personally for the "new" piece.</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Introduction_to_the_book&diff=452Introduction to the book2008-09-24T05:38:17Z<p>69.119.239.223: </p>
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<div>The Gods were annoyed<br />
<br />
To say the least. <br />
<br />
<br />
But they had no choice 'cause we had rented the space fair and square. The ink on the contract was dry. The Gods' job was to clear out and spend the week on an all expenses paid booze cruise through the Astral. Our job was to party like it's 2012. Apollo, in his little white vacation shoes, flipped me off on the way out. They had just heard the news, that Limbo Peak had been rented out by ''Discordians''.<br />
<br />
<br />
[Insert 000's pic of kolonoskopos and hairacles]<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
See, when Triple Zero and I reserved the place, we wore these sweet masks. I was Hairacles and he was Kolonoskopos. We told them it was a masquerade ball, but we didn't tell 'em who was on the guest list. <br />
<br />
When Zeus found out it was ''Discordians'', he got all bitchtits. "Eris worshippers?" he thundered. "Aw Hera, ''they're gonna foul the pool''..." Someone whispered in his ear that skinnydipping was listed ''several times'' on their agenda. That old windbag's bitchtits practically burst out his beardhole. "I forbid the pool entirely!" Sure thing pops. Yeah, we'll be good guests. Hey, where do you keep the towels?<br />
<br />
See, our Lady Eris is celebrating 49 or 50 years or so since she sent her penguin to freak out those spags Mal and Omar. Since then, it's been more or less a constant party - like something Crowley would envision while balls deep in some ass trance. So in a way, we're celebrating 49 or 50 years of constant partying with an even ''weirder'' party.<br />
<br />
So 000 and I -- er -- Hairacles and Kolonoskopos tried to contact as many "Discordians" as they could find for this bizarre masquerade bash. And when the party started, they came in droves. They jibbered in Russian. There were mittens and win in every discussion. <br />
<br />
Weird people in their anybody suits. We're all over the place like tossed cookies.<br />
<br />
[insert the beach etc.discordia ad]<br />
<br />
Now there's a lot of "Discordians" out there on the web, and they're not organized really well, so there's no telling how much of the iceberg we crashed. But I think we got a good sampling. It was cool, because all these foreign networks collided. They swapped ideas and put some pee in the idea pot. And this book is the toxic soup that we squeezed out of it.<br />
<br />
The idea, originally, was to produce a book ''really quickly''. I had this idea for a booklet I wanted to write about why Discordia is a kickass way of dealing with this crazy decade. I mean, the Principia is practically 50 years old, but it keeps getting more relevant. Even my daily commute to work feels like a stanza from Lewis Carroll. So I put together some thoughts, but I wanted more people to give their spin on things. So I had this idea for a one-shot internet forum.<br />
<br />
To make a long story short, we set up the Internet Cyberspace Masquerade (also known as the Party on Limbo Peak). So everybody put on made up identity masks and showed up at this forum. It would only be open for one week, so there was no time for a culture to form. No time for in-group/out-group follow the leader in-joke/bad-joke memetics. Separated from their networks and social backup, people were forced to talk straight. It was an interesting experiment.<br />
<br />
And that's the energy which launched this book. A bunch of random factors coming together to form a social collage. I think that's a good thumbnail of the Discordian society right there - there are artists, hackers, occultists, pranksters... in short, the remnants of Norton's Empire. Surrealist tricksters who live on the fringes, colorful iterations at the edge of the fractal. They've got all these great ideas, but those ideas are scattered all over the board. I say let's cut 'em up into kibble and assemble them, collage style, into a ransom note to reality. Let's make a primordial stone soup.<br />
<br />
And since the Masquerade, the book has continued to grow. If anything, I want it to stand as a signpost, reminding future generations that though many of our forefathers have fallen (rest in peace Greg, Kerry, Bob, et al), we're still here. We're still ''doing stuff''. Are you?<br />
<br />
So this book is about some of the energy going on right now. It's a rough sketch of the view from Limbo Peak. It's like taking a tape recording of a party conversation. Only a snippet. This book is a collage, a few cutups, itself a cutup. Take the parts of it you like.<br />
<br />
For those of you who are reading this but have no idea what Discordia is, maybe I should offer some brief explanation. Discordia "is" a religion in some sense, a philosophy in some sense, a joke in some sense, a movement in some sense and a recepie for disaster in some sense. What these five senses have in common is Chaos. The meme at the center is Eris, the Greek Goddess of confusion. She doesn't take much seriously.<br />
<br />
Discordia showed up in 1958 or 1959 (depending on which part of the ''Principia Discordia'' you're forbidden to believe), and <br />
<br />
Zarathud tugged at my leg. "Look at that," he said, pointing to the ceiling. On the ceiling, big bright red letters spelled out the word GOAT. What? Why did someone write GOAT on the ceiling? I never resolved this question, and it itched in my brain like spagfire. For weeks afterwards, I would look up every time I went in a building. It was like a compulsion -- I couldn't go through a door without looking for the absurd.<br />
<br />
Bacon Cone Nixon hears The Word and says, "Extremely subtle, confusing changes; funny. Extremely large, confusing changes; possibly funny, if done with a high level of forethought. I like to plant products in people’s houses, and do shit like replace their half-used jug of milk with a half-used jug of different milk, or put a handful of mayonnaise packets in their butter compartment, just because it’s subtle enough to make them question their own realities. Adding magazines to their bedside table or stuffing a pair of socks under the blanket at the foot of the bed, or adding a pair of shoes in their size to their closet, are also good. You can choose things which really DO fuck with people’s MINDS, making it a MINDfuck and not just an irritating obvious prank."<br />
<br />
But sometimes it can be obvious. Like putting your e-mail address on a crazy poster and hang it cool. You'll attract the sort of people that send e-mails to people who put up crazy signs. I've been leaving weird stuff on the train for years, and now I'm starting to see weird stuff that I didn't even do. You know those posters on the train for aspirin and vacations and musicals? Somebody cut out a donkey head and carefully replaced someone's face. I didn't even notice until I got close. A week later, the mystery prankster had cut up a lottery ad and made a collage out of the casino ad. Brilliant stuff. <br />
<br />
Have you heard of the Retail Cabal? It's every Discordian that works a crappy retail job and made it into a shrine to Our Lady. Like when I worked for Lord Tayloron, and I spent all day writing FNORDS on every single bill I could get my hands on. (FNORD YOUR ONES!) Years later, I'd get a FNORDed dollar bill as change. The writing and style was very distinctly not mine. (and there was no moustache on Washington) So put your weird out there like weirdbait. Let it hang out, spaggy pants. These things are signposts to the Others.<br />
<br />
And this book is a signpost too. It's a callout that we're here, we're real, and you can be a real one too. <br />
<br />
The PDF for this book is available and kopyleft. That means you can make it yours. Print out your favorite pages, add your own. Sell 'em for all I care. Make cutups. Give it out and make it happen. <br />
<br />
Zarathud, it turns out, is a big fan of the cutup hamhock. You'll notice he wandered through the book and made his own edits. He's had a lot of fun rearranging stuff and making it "better". He approached me at the party and said, "Hey, can I be in the book?"<br />
<br />
"Sure," I said into the megaphone.<br />
<br />
He told me he was worried that since he's the Saint of the fourth season, Bureaucracy, people think he's a total square. Well it's true that he's not very creative, but he's got quite the knack for odd juxtapositions. As it turns out, he's a big fan of the cut-up method. I had two essays I wanted to show you about cutups and collages. One from The Art of Memetics, and one by William Burroughs. Zarathud liked the pieces, so he shuffled them together during his lunch break at the Jade Emperor's Bureaucratorium. (Zarathud works in the food court of this Chinese Bureaucratic-Heaven)</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Introduction_to_the_book&diff=451Introduction to the book2008-09-24T02:23:55Z<p>69.119.239.223: </p>
<hr />
<div>The Gods were annoyed<br />
<br />
To say the least. <br />
<br />
<br />
But they had no choice 'cause we had rented the space fair and square. The ink on the contract was dry. The Gods' job was to clear out and spend the week on an all expenses paid booze cruise through the Astral. Our job was to party like it's 2012. Apollo, in his little white vacation shoes, flipped me off on the way out. They had just heard the news, that Limbo Peak had been rented out by ''Discordians''.<br />
<br />
<br />
[Insert 000's pic of kolonoskopos and hairacles]<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
See, when Triple Zero and I reserved the place, we wore these sweet masks. I was Hairacles and he was Kolonoskopos. We told them it was a masquerade ball, but we didn't tell 'em who was on the guest list. <br />
<br />
When Zeus found out it was ''Discordians'', he got all bitchtits. "Eris worshippers?" he thundered. "Aw Hera, ''they're gonna foul the pool''..." Someone whispered in his ear that skinnydipping was listed ''several times'' on their agenda. That old windbag's bitchtits practically burst out his beardhole. "I forbid the pool entirely!" Sure thing pops. Yeah, we'll be good guests. Hey, where do you keep the towels?<br />
<br />
See, our Lady Eris is celebrating 49 or 50 years or so since she sent her penguin to freak out those spags Mal and Omar. Since then, it's been more or less a constant party - like something Crowley would envision while balls deep in some ass trance. So in a way, we're celebrating 49 or 50 years of constant partying with an even ''weirder'' party.<br />
<br />
So 000 and I -- er -- Hairacles and Kolonoskopos tried to contact as many "Discordians" as they could find for this bizarre masquerade bash. And when the party started, they came in droves. They jibbered in Russian. There were mittens and win in every discussion. <br />
<br />
Weird people in their anybody suits. We're all over the place like tossed cookies.<br />
<br />
[insert the beach etc.discordia ad]<br />
<br />
Now there's a lot of "Discordians" out there on the web, and they're not organized really well, so there's no telling how much of the iceberg we crashed. But I think we got a good sampling. It was cool, because all these foreign networks collided. They swapped ideas and put some pee in the idea pot. And this book is the toxic soup that we squeezed out of it.<br />
<br />
The idea, originally, was to produce a book ''really quickly''. I had this idea for a booklet I wanted to write about why Discordia is a kickass way of dealing with this crazy decade. I mean, the Principia is practically 50 years old, but it keeps getting more relevant. Even my daily commute to work feels like a stanza from Lewis Carroll. So I put together some thoughts, but I wanted more people to give their spin on things. So I had this idea for a one-shot internet forum.<br />
<br />
To make a long story short, we set up the Internet Cyberspace Masquerade (also known as the Party on Limbo Peak). So everybody put on made up identity masks and showed up at this forum. It would only be open for one week, so there was no time for a culture to form. No time for in-group/out-group follow the leader in-joke/bad-joke memetics. Separated from their networks and social backup, people were forced to talk straight. It was an interesting experiment.<br />
<br />
And that's the energy which launched this book. A bunch of random factors coming together to form a social collage. I think that's a good thumbnail of the Discordian society right there - there are artists, hackers, occultists, pranksters... in short, the remnants of Norton's Empire. Surrealist tricksters who live on the fringes, colorful iterations at the edge of the fractal. They've got all these great ideas, but those ideas are scattered all over the board. I say let's cut 'em up into kibble and assemble them, collage style, into a ransom note to reality. Let's make a primordial stone soup.<br />
<br />
And since the Masquerade, the book has continued to grow. If anything, I want it to stand as a signpost, reminding future generations that though many of our forefathers have fallen (rest in peace Greg, Kerry, Bob, et al), we're still here. We're still ''doing stuff''. Are you?<br />
<br />
So this book is about some of the energy going on right now. It's a rough sketch of the view from Limbo Peak. It's like taking a tape recording of a party conversation. Only a snippet. This book is a collage, a few cutups, itself a cutup. Take the parts of it you like.<br />
<br />
For those of you who are reading this but have no idea what Discordia is, maybe I should offer some brief explanation. Discordia "is" a religion in some sense, a philosophy in some sense, a joke in some sense, a movement in some sense and a recepie for disaster in some sense. What these five senses have in common is Chaos. The meme at the center is Eris, the Greek Goddess of confusion. She doesn't take much seriously.<br />
<br />
Zarathud tugged at my leg. "Look at that," he said, pointing to the ceiling. On the ceiling, big bright red letters spelled out the word GOAT. What? Why did someone write GOAT on the ceiling? I never resolved this question, and it itched in my brain like spagfire. For weeks afterwards, I would look up every time I went in a building. It was like a compulsion -- I couldn't go through a door without looking for the absurd.<br />
<br />
Bacon Cone Nixon hears The Word and says, "Extremely subtle, confusing changes; funny. Extremely large, confusing changes; possibly funny, if done with a high level of forethought. I like to plant products in people’s houses, and do shit like replace their half-used jug of milk with a half-used jug of different milk, or put a handful of mayonnaise packets in their butter compartment, just because it’s subtle enough to make them question their own realities. Adding magazines to their bedside table or stuffing a pair of socks under the blanket at the foot of the bed, or adding a pair of shoes in their size to their closet, are also good. You can choose things which really DO fuck with people’s MINDS, making it a MINDfuck and not just an irritating obvious prank."<br />
<br />
But sometimes it can be obvious. Like putting your e-mail address on a crazy poster and hang it cool. You'll attract the sort of people that send e-mails to people who put up crazy signs. I've been leaving weird stuff on the train for years, and now I'm starting to see weird stuff that I didn't even do. You know those posters on the train for aspirin and vacations and musicals? Somebody cut out a donkey head and carefully replaced someone's face. I didn't even notice until I got close. A week later, the mystery prankster had cut up a lottery ad and made a collage out of the casino ad. Brilliant stuff. <br />
<br />
Have you heard of the Retail Cabal? It's every Discordian that works a crappy retail job and made it into a shrine to Our Lady. Like when I worked for Lord Tayloron, and I spent all day writing FNORDS on every single bill I could get my hands on. (FNORD YOUR ONES!) Years later, I'd get a FNORDed dollar bill as change. The writing and style was very distinctly not mine. (and there was no moustache on Washington) So put your weird out there like weirdbait. Let it hang out, spaggy pants. These things are signposts to the Others.<br />
<br />
And this book is a signpost too. It's a callout that we're here, we're real, and you can be a real one too. <br />
<br />
The PDF for this book is available and kopyleft. That means you can make it yours. Print out your favorite pages, add your own. Sell 'em for all I care. Make cutups. Give it out and make it happen. <br />
<br />
Zarathud, it turns out, is a big fan of the cutup hamhock. You'll notice he wandered through the book and made his own edits. He's had a lot of fun rearranging stuff and making it "better". He approached me at the party and said, "Hey, can I be in the book?"<br />
<br />
"Sure," I said into the megaphone.<br />
<br />
He told me he was worried that since he's the Saint of the fourth season, Bureaucracy, people think he's a total square. Well it's true that he's not very creative, but he's got quite the knack for odd juxtapositions. As it turns out, he's a big fan of the cut-up method. I had two essays I wanted to show you about cutups and collages. One by Wes Unruh and Edward Wilson, who wrote The Art of Memetics, and one by William Burroughs, who did a lot of drugs. Zarathud thought both pieces were a bit lacking, so he shuffled them together during his lunch break at the Jade Emperor's Bureaucratorium. (Zarathud works in the food court of this Chinese Bureaucratic-Heaven)</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Discordia2008&diff=450Discordia20082008-09-24T01:28:43Z<p>69.119.239.223: </p>
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<div>'''Why Discordia is more relevant than ever in the year 2008'''<br />
<br />
<br />
== post by Cramulus ==<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
As time marches on and culture gets weirder and weirder, I think Discordia is becoming increasingly relevant. I'd like to riff on why Discordia is more relevant now than it's ever been. Here's my take, and I want to hear yours:<br />
<br />
At its core, Discordia has some silly lessons about ignoring cultural programming and navigating our fractillian society on your own baffling terms. Its satirical approach towards religion, something that was once so shhh! sacred! that we ''couldn't'' joke about it, is an attitude we can ride into many other straightfaced territories. Gender, politics, the economy, war, terrorism, our expectations for the future, your goals, your flaws, your life -- these are things that we can easily bork if we take them to be Real and Serious and a Big Deal. Which isn't to say that they're not a big deal. But that it's better to take them with a spoonfull of salt.<br />
<br />
When we get serious, we get rigid, we get tunnel vision, and we get indentured. Discordia is about tearing down serious walls internally as well as externally. In this decade, where there are so many conflicting messages being shouted at us, it's important to differentiate between What Matters and What Don't. And the secret is that people probably take more stuff all bitchtits than is healthy. Healthy for ''all of us''. Discordia uses flexibility and humor to cope with the paradoxes and dangers and ubiquitous spags of modern living. It's about escaping the two-man con where both choices are bum, and becoming an active (rather than passive) character in your life's lame-ass Made For TV Movie.<br />
<br />
I think this is the most interesting and confusing period of history to date. Historians will struggle to misunderstand what it was like to be alive in the 21st century. The Bureaucracy is getting bigger and sicker. There is a great cultural demand for agents of change who will challenge the existing order and suggest that some tea and scones should follow. The heroes of our day are the people who are kinetic enough to make clothing from this threaded culture and not get weighed down by the dross and rut of the human condition. All sorts of economists, academics, politicians and other knowitall spags think they've got the logical progression of soecity pegged. I'm not even ''interested'' in the ehhhhh "logical progression" of society, I'm interested in totally unsharted territory! This is the modern Discordian's role, to flip the blessed bird at binary choices, to make objection and change part of the hegemony, and to enjoy oneself despite our programming and inclination to be boring-ass spags. We are the silver lining to the cultural cabbage patch. This is not just a society of robots, and the Discordians are evidence of it.<br />
<br />
At the time of this writing, I don't see Eris as a Goddess in the same way that the ehhhhh religious types think of Gods. My Eris isn't a pagan entity. It's Goddamn 2009, it's 3175, and the "Gods" model is in need of a patch. That language is outdated software. Eris isn't answering prayer calls, the phone's off the hook 'cause she's getting ''busy''. Personally, I see Eris as a force similar to the ''internet'', similar to the ''spirit of protest'', similar to ''hair metal''. She's not the force, but the ''attitude'' through which Bureaucracy is transcended into Aftermath. She is the unexpected punchline at the end of a decade long shaggy dog joke. And in that I think she has more to offer than the sepulcher and bureaucratic tangle of other contemporary edifices like religions and ideologies and static.<br />
<br />
These are the '''Strange Times''', and Eris' advice is to go into this crazy mixed up world like you're attending a costume party. It's a CRAZY party, too - with boobs and drugs and sex and violence and hope and ugliness and beauty and misery. There's straight talk and stray talk silly talk shop talk gossip talk. If you're not having fun, wander around, see what else is out there. It's ''wild''.<br />
<br />
There's ''so much'' out there, that's the best part. There's more than anyone can handle, and exponentially more every moment. Today, the day you're reading this, is the most complex, interesting, exciting day in history to date. You don't think so? "Listen; there's a hell of a universe next door: let's go!"<br />
<br />
Eris would love to be your date to this crazy party. She knows that the Strange Times leave a lot of people miserably confused. She's not going to resolve your confusion, but she can help you become ''happily'' confused instead.<br />
<br />
So if you ask me, the Principia is 49 or 50 years old, and it's more relevant than ever.<br />
<br />
== post by Golden Applesauce ==<br />
<br />
I makes me sad when people tell me that things like religion are to important to joke about, or old propaganda posters too offensive. It bothers me when I get suspended from school or hauled before Loss Prevention for reasons like "I know that this is just a misunderstanding, but we must follow procedure." It hurts when I look around my infosphere and see nothing but advertisements, especially when those ads are meant to make people feel bad about themselves.<br />
<br />
The world is ruled by an endless morass of strictures and convention, and no one wants to take responsibility for them. People are perfectly content to let the train follow its own momentum down the tracks, even though they don't like where it is or where it is going, because this is Policy, it's what Everyone (the everyone in "everyone knows that...") has Decided. Rules and traditions might be annoying, but it's Not In Our Power to do anything about them.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Post by LMNO ==<br />
<br />
In today’s so-called “Information Age”, most of us are constantly bombarded with stuff. Perhaps not with ideas, so much as pure input. While for the most part this input is pretty much bias-neutral, an increasing amount of it is being supplied by people who have an angle. What’s more, to get through to the growing population of Jaded Couch-Dwelling Fuckheads, there has been a new approach of making the stuff more-or-less self referential, as in, “we know you know we’re trying to manipulate you. See how cool that makes us?”<br />
<br />
So, what do you do when you are flooded by 50,000 points of view? The old way was to have Rules and Tradition and Procedure and Black and White. To take that stuff and cram it into a narrow worldview, distorting what little information you actually notice. Which only serves to hold you back, slow you down, and shut you up.<br />
<br />
Our way, the Discordian way, is to make Temporary Models, make new Game Rules, to grab hold of the stuff and ride it out, making connections as you see them. You do your best not to have your views manipulated by stuff, and you do your best not to manipulate stuff to fit your views. Which serves to keep you on the Edge of What’s Going On.<br />
<br />
At least, that’s the general idea.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== post by Ratatosk ==<br />
<br />
<br />
I don't know if it is 'more relevant'. It seems to me that people act, pretty much, like people. People in 1959 aren't all that different from us, they may have slightly different rituals and memes, sleight variations in clothing styles and slang, but the humans appear the same. Our society may be more open and more tolerant (at least the aspects of society that are very popular right now), but humans interact and follow the rules of that society, pretty much as they did in 1959.<br />
<br />
The people who are cogs in society behave like they're supposed to. The conservative cog grinds to the tune that their entire society is about to collapse, the liberal cog whirrs away at a Utopia that seems as far away now as it did in 1959 and the 'rebel' cogs turn to the tune of "I Did It My Way" (though now it might be the Sex Pistols version...).<br />
<br />
If Discordianism was relevant ever, then it's relevant now... in theory, if not in specific memes. To think that life now is DIFFERENT, is (in my opinion) to confuse the trappings of society with the functionality of humans. Even the best broadband available won't stop an asshole from beating his wife and kids. It won't stop the man who is not comfortable with his own feelings from bashing gays. All the information in the world, won't necessarily make us elect a good president or change the basic selfish behavior of most monkeys on this planet. <br />
<br />
However, IF the information is served on a platter, complete with trimmings and yummy sauce... some humans might eat it and change. Discordianism, I think, provides just such a platter. The concepts of general semantics, the limits of perception, the bias of our own reality and the ability to 'STOP' doing the things we don't like, aren't unique to Erisian Enlightenment. However, for at least some humans, Discordianism seems to make the ideas palatable, digestible and useful.<br />
<br />
So Discordianism was valuable then and is valuable now... because humans are human<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Post by Payne ==<br />
<br />
<br />
Discordia will always be more relevant to me personally than in any kind of "cause" or "movement".<br />
<br />
Yes, things in society are fucked up, yes "everyone" thinks that "everyone" else wants things to be this way, and there is nothing that they can do about it as individuals. Yes, they are wrong.<br />
<br />
But all of this means nothing to me.<br />
<br />
I am not an activist, I don't go out of my way to try and convert people anymore. I used to, but then I thought it was mandatory or at least expected. Since I decided for myself that it wasn't, I don't do it. I don't expect people to wake up unless they want to do it themselves, I certainly don't expect it to ever make sense for them unless they do it in the hardest and unfunniest ways, but that may be my jaded and bitter inner self talking.<br />
<br />
Discordia is not a movement, it is not a purpose, it is not a cause. It's a state of mind. A state of mind that connects a diverse group of people who wouldn't give each other the time of day if they met socially in other circumstances and didn't have the call signs Discordia offers, the "fluff" like 23, Eris or Principia Discordia.<br />
<br />
I like that. I like talking to people who I normally would never talk to, who would normally never talk to me.<br />
<br />
Discordia is at times an excellent way of tying some of us together to work on projects that normally would never be worked on, like Paths and Shrapnel, PosterGASM and some of the weird and wonderful art projects.<br />
<br />
I like that. I like working with people on plans and projects that may have some relevance to how I think about my life, or can help decorate it in a way that makes me question what decoration is.<br />
<br />
Discordia will always be relevant to me in some way because of this. Its worth far outweighs the effort of getting anything back from it.<br />
<br />
I like models, I like art, I like exploring the weirder aspects of our psyches, and the even weirder methods of exploiting what we find.<br />
<br />
I like to laugh, hate, cry and love, as we as humans are meant to, not as we have been conditioned to. As I've only learned to do with some intense soul searching and some pain. Discordia has been the chair I've sat down in when I'm weary, the desk I've used to write some of the most personal and important things I've ever written, it has been the mirror in which I've seen what I am, what I was and what I want to be.<br />
<br />
And I've learned to not care what others are thinking about it all, except in specialised circumstances, for example: when I feel like it.<br />
<br />
I know what I've learned, I've learned to question what I know, and I've learned to learn more, always learn more.<br />
<br />
For me, Discordia is a question, an answer and everything else in between, and it is so huge that I could spend a lifetime exploring it.<br />
<br />
Is Discordia relevent? Certainly for me, maybe for you.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Post by Cain ==<br />
<br />
Why is Discordianism still relevant in 2008?<br />
<br />
Because I am the The Decider, and I have decided that it is.<br />
<br />
Debate over.<br />
<br />
Oh, alright then, some more evidence.<br />
<br />
Two thousand and eight kicked off, in my mind at least, with two major events. The first was the US Presidential election. The second was the Anonymous “war” on Scientology. The first of these two quickly became a spiralling mess of such a degree that parody and satire often seemed more reasonable than what was actually being said. Therefore, parody and satire need to step up to the plate, and have done so admirably. In a country where Stephen Colbert or Jon Stewart can give more prescient and accurate news than many of the major news stations, in such a country comedy with a message is King.<br />
<br />
The second was interesting, because it showed how an internet subculture with no centralization, no money and little in way of common purpose (indeed they often flaunted their chaotic and contradictory ways) could pose a threat to a very powerful and rich, highly centralized religious cult.<br />
<br />
Change is still the name of the game. As corporate elites have stepped up to the plate, promoting and co-opting every new youth movement and subculture, in some cases from almost the very start, subversive counterculture has done a vanishing act. It still exists, and its still there, but its a true invisible college, taking form on the internet and in the street. Flashmobs and other microcultures have become very possible with the rise of mass membership websites such as Facebook, putting Situationist tactics into the hands of online activists, who can construct an event with a few clicks, so long as they can get enough people interested. Appear, perform and disperse. We're evolving and changing, because anyone who stands still for too long is going to end up in the cross-hairs of one marketing executive or another. Subversion and change, nanoculture and personal freedom, are becoming synonymous.<br />
<br />
We're continuing to have a small, if noticed effect on the mainstream as well. V for Vendetta and Lost, a program and a film with some very Discordian influences, are favourites of viewers all over the world. High Weirdness is back in fashion, too. It doesn't matter if its a giant artistic piece of dogshit which has got loose, or J. J. Abrams latest show, the strange and the odd are still capturing imaginations and peoples curiosity.<br />
<br />
Chaos, equally, is back in fashion more than ever. No matter if its politics or the music industry, the old rules of how things are done, and the elites who control them, are under a barrage of assaults from newcomers and individuals with the power to move and shake the industries they work in. With the second internet revolution in full swing, its becoming easier than ever to get one's voice out there, create an audience, be heard, and bypass the traditional methods of control to say what you want. Equally the weather and the stockmarkets are both going crazy, and becoming ever harder to predict. Many of the old assurances seem to be crumbling in the bright lights of the 21st century.<br />
<br />
The arts of obfuscation, disruption and, well, we can only call it trolling have become more popular than ever, diffusing down into society. Since trolling is part Situationist theatre, part postmodern identity shifting, and we have natural advantages in areas such as that, we have an edge on tactics that the media, the blogs and activists are only just starting to grasp.<br />
<br />
Religious fundamentalism is back on the scene, with all the stupidity and farce such an event brings. Whether its bearded lunatics in caves or meth-taking, rent-boy hiring, homophobic minister, religion is once again proving its potential to destroy lives, ruin countries and damn people on the flimsiest of charges. And so, it must come as a relief to many to find a religion that doesn't want your unquestioning obedience, wont damn you to hell for your sins, doesn't want your time or money or impose any strange dietary practices (barring those with hotdogs), but wants you to have a good time and tell anyone who tries to get in your way to STFU.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Post by the Good Reverend Roger ==<br />
<br />
Relevant? Who cares?<br />
<br />
I'm just here to gnaw at the foundations of society like a diseased termite.</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Discordia2008&diff=449Discordia20082008-09-24T01:13:15Z<p>69.119.239.223: /* post by Cramulus */</p>
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<div>'''Why Discordia is more relevant than ever in the year 2008'''<br />
<br />
<br />
== post by Cramulus ==<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
As time marches on and culture gets weirder and weirder, I think Discordia is becoming increasingly relevant. I'd like to riff on why Discordia is more relevant now than it's ever been. Here's my take, and I want to hear yours:<br />
<br />
At its core, Discordia has some silly lessons about ignoring cultural programming and navigating our fractillian society on your own baffling terms. Its satirical approach towards religion, something that was once so shhh! sacred! that we ''couldn't'' joke about it, is an attitude we can ride into many other straightfaced territories. Gender, politics, the economy, war, terrorism, our expectations for the future, your goals, your flaws, your life -- these are things that we can easily bork if we take them to be Real and Serious and a Big Deal. Which isn't to say that they're not a big deal. But that it's better to take them with a spoonfull of salt.<br />
<br />
When we get serious, we get rigid, we get tunnel vision, and we get indentured. Discordia is about tearing down serious walls internally as well as externally. In this decade, where there are so many conflicting messages being shouted at us, it's important to differentiate between What Matters and What Don't. And the secret is that people probably take more stuff all bitchtits than is healthy. Healthy for ''all of us''. Discordia uses flexibility and humor to cope with the paradoxes and dangers and spags of modern living. It's about escaping the two-man con where both choices are bum, and becoming an active (rather than passive) character in your life's lame-ass Made For TV Movie.<br />
<br />
I think this is the most interesting and confusing period of history to date. Historians will struggle to misunderstand what it was like to be alive in the 21st century. The Bureaucracy is getting bigger and sicker. There is a great cultural demand for agents of change who will challenge the existing order and suggest some tea and scones will follow. The heroes of our day are the people who are kinetic enough to make clothing from this threaded culture and not get weighed down by the dross and rut of the human condition. All sorts of economists, academics, political spags and other knowitalls think they've got the logical progression of soecity pegged. I'm not even ''interested'' in the ehhhhh "logical progression" of society, I'm interested in totally unsharted territory. This is the modern Discordian's role, to flip the blessed bird at binary choices, to make objection and change part of the hegemony, and to enjoy oneself despite our programming and inclination to be boring-ass spags. We are the silver lining to the cultural cabbage patch. This is not just a society of robots, and Discordians are evidence of it. Put your hands in the air, we're crossing the finish line!<br />
<br />
At the time of this writing, I don't see Eris as a Goddess in the same way that the Christians or Jews or Ancient Greeks think of Gods. My Eris isn't a pagan entity. It's goddamn 2009, and the "Gods" model is in need of a patch. She's not answering prayer calls, the phone's off the hook and she's getting ''laid''. Personally, I see Eris as a force similar to the internet, similar to the spirit of protest, similar to hair metal. She's not the force, but the attitude through which Bureaucracy is transcended into Aftermath. She is the unexpected punchline at the end of a decade long shaggy dog joke. And in that I think she has more to offer than the sepulcher and bureaucratic tangle of other contemporary edifices like religions and ideologies and static.<br />
<br />
These are the Strange Times, and Eris' advice is to go into this world like you're attending a costume party. It's a CRAZY party, too - with boobs and drugs and sex and violence and hope and ugliness and beauty and misery. There's straight talk and stray talk silly talk shop talk gossip talk. If you're not having fun, wander around, see what else is out there. <br />
<br />
There's ''so much'' out there, that's the best part, so don't blink. There's more than anyone can handle, and more every moment. Every single day is the most complex, interesting, exciting day in history to date. You don't think so? "Listen; there's a hell of a universe next door: let's go!"<br />
<br />
Eris would love to be your date to this crazy party. She knows that the Strange Times leave a lot of people miserably confused. She's not going to resolve your confusion, but she can help you become ''happily'' confused instead.<br />
<br />
So if you ask me, the Principia is 49 or 50 years old, and it's more relevant than ever.<br />
<br />
== post by Golden Applesauce ==<br />
<br />
I makes me sad when people tell me that things like religion are to important to joke about, or old propaganda posters too offensive. It bothers me when I get suspended from school or hauled before Loss Prevention for reasons like "I know that this is just a misunderstanding, but we must follow procedure." It hurts when I look around my infosphere and see nothing but advertisements, especially when those ads are meant to make people feel bad about themselves.<br />
<br />
The world is ruled by an endless morass of strictures and convention, and no one wants to take responsibility for them. People are perfectly content to let the train follow its own momentum down the tracks, even though they don't like where it is or where it is going, because this is Policy, it's what Everyone (the everyone in "everyone knows that...") has Decided. Rules and traditions might be annoying, but it's Not In Our Power to do anything about them.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Post by LMNO ==<br />
<br />
In today’s so-called “Information Age”, most of us are constantly bombarded with stuff. Perhaps not with ideas, so much as pure input. While for the most part this input is pretty much bias-neutral, an increasing amount of it is being supplied by people who have an angle. What’s more, to get through to the growing population of Jaded Couch-Dwelling Fuckheads, there has been a new approach of making the stuff more-or-less self referential, as in, “we know you know we’re trying to manipulate you. See how cool that makes us?”<br />
<br />
So, what do you do when you are flooded by 50,000 points of view? The old way was to have Rules and Tradition and Procedure and Black and White. To take that stuff and cram it into a narrow worldview, distorting what little information you actually notice. Which only serves to hold you back, slow you down, and shut you up.<br />
<br />
Our way, the Discordian way, is to make Temporary Models, make new Game Rules, to grab hold of the stuff and ride it out, making connections as you see them. You do your best not to have your views manipulated by stuff, and you do your best not to manipulate stuff to fit your views. Which serves to keep you on the Edge of What’s Going On.<br />
<br />
At least, that’s the general idea.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== post by Ratatosk ==<br />
<br />
<br />
I don't know if it is 'more relevant'. It seems to me that people act, pretty much, like people. People in 1959 aren't all that different from us, they may have slightly different rituals and memes, sleight variations in clothing styles and slang, but the humans appear the same. Our society may be more open and more tolerant (at least the aspects of society that are very popular right now), but humans interact and follow the rules of that society, pretty much as they did in 1959.<br />
<br />
The people who are cogs in society behave like they're supposed to. The conservative cog grinds to the tune that their entire society is about to collapse, the liberal cog whirrs away at a Utopia that seems as far away now as it did in 1959 and the 'rebel' cogs turn to the tune of "I Did It My Way" (though now it might be the Sex Pistols version...).<br />
<br />
If Discordianism was relevant ever, then it's relevant now... in theory, if not in specific memes. To think that life now is DIFFERENT, is (in my opinion) to confuse the trappings of society with the functionality of humans. Even the best broadband available won't stop an asshole from beating his wife and kids. It won't stop the man who is not comfortable with his own feelings from bashing gays. All the information in the world, won't necessarily make us elect a good president or change the basic selfish behavior of most monkeys on this planet. <br />
<br />
However, IF the information is served on a platter, complete with trimmings and yummy sauce... some humans might eat it and change. Discordianism, I think, provides just such a platter. The concepts of general semantics, the limits of perception, the bias of our own reality and the ability to 'STOP' doing the things we don't like, aren't unique to Erisian Enlightenment. However, for at least some humans, Discordianism seems to make the ideas palatable, digestible and useful.<br />
<br />
So Discordianism was valuable then and is valuable now... because humans are human<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Post by Payne ==<br />
<br />
<br />
Discordia will always be more relevant to me personally than in any kind of "cause" or "movement".<br />
<br />
Yes, things in society are fucked up, yes "everyone" thinks that "everyone" else wants things to be this way, and there is nothing that they can do about it as individuals. Yes, they are wrong.<br />
<br />
But all of this means nothing to me.<br />
<br />
I am not an activist, I don't go out of my way to try and convert people anymore. I used to, but then I thought it was mandatory or at least expected. Since I decided for myself that it wasn't, I don't do it. I don't expect people to wake up unless they want to do it themselves, I certainly don't expect it to ever make sense for them unless they do it in the hardest and unfunniest ways, but that may be my jaded and bitter inner self talking.<br />
<br />
Discordia is not a movement, it is not a purpose, it is not a cause. It's a state of mind. A state of mind that connects a diverse group of people who wouldn't give each other the time of day if they met socially in other circumstances and didn't have the call signs Discordia offers, the "fluff" like 23, Eris or Principia Discordia.<br />
<br />
I like that. I like talking to people who I normally would never talk to, who would normally never talk to me.<br />
<br />
Discordia is at times an excellent way of tying some of us together to work on projects that normally would never be worked on, like Paths and Shrapnel, PosterGASM and some of the weird and wonderful art projects.<br />
<br />
I like that. I like working with people on plans and projects that may have some relevance to how I think about my life, or can help decorate it in a way that makes me question what decoration is.<br />
<br />
Discordia will always be relevant to me in some way because of this. Its worth far outweighs the effort of getting anything back from it.<br />
<br />
I like models, I like art, I like exploring the weirder aspects of our psyches, and the even weirder methods of exploiting what we find.<br />
<br />
I like to laugh, hate, cry and love, as we as humans are meant to, not as we have been conditioned to. As I've only learned to do with some intense soul searching and some pain. Discordia has been the chair I've sat down in when I'm weary, the desk I've used to write some of the most personal and important things I've ever written, it has been the mirror in which I've seen what I am, what I was and what I want to be.<br />
<br />
And I've learned to not care what others are thinking about it all, except in specialised circumstances, for example: when I feel like it.<br />
<br />
I know what I've learned, I've learned to question what I know, and I've learned to learn more, always learn more.<br />
<br />
For me, Discordia is a question, an answer and everything else in between, and it is so huge that I could spend a lifetime exploring it.<br />
<br />
Is Discordia relevent? Certainly for me, maybe for you.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Post by Cain ==<br />
<br />
Why is Discordianism still relevant in 2008?<br />
<br />
Because I am the The Decider, and I have decided that it is.<br />
<br />
Debate over.<br />
<br />
Oh, alright then, some more evidence.<br />
<br />
Two thousand and eight kicked off, in my mind at least, with two major events. The first was the US Presidential election. The second was the Anonymous “war” on Scientology. The first of these two quickly became a spiralling mess of such a degree that parody and satire often seemed more reasonable than what was actually being said. Therefore, parody and satire need to step up to the plate, and have done so admirably. In a country where Stephen Colbert or Jon Stewart can give more prescient and accurate news than many of the major news stations, in such a country comedy with a message is King.<br />
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The second was interesting, because it showed how an internet subculture with no centralization, no money and little in way of common purpose (indeed they often flaunted their chaotic and contradictory ways) could pose a threat to a very powerful and rich, highly centralized religious cult.<br />
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Change is still the name of the game. As corporate elites have stepped up to the plate, promoting and co-opting every new youth movement and subculture, in some cases from almost the very start, subversive counterculture has done a vanishing act. It still exists, and its still there, but its a true invisible college, taking form on the internet and in the street. Flashmobs and other microcultures have become very possible with the rise of mass membership websites such as Facebook, putting Situationist tactics into the hands of online activists, who can construct an event with a few clicks, so long as they can get enough people interested. Appear, perform and disperse. We're evolving and changing, because anyone who stands still for too long is going to end up in the cross-hairs of one marketing executive or another. Subversion and change, nanoculture and personal freedom, are becoming synonymous.<br />
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We're continuing to have a small, if noticed effect on the mainstream as well. V for Vendetta and Lost, a program and a film with some very Discordian influences, are favourites of viewers all over the world. High Weirdness is back in fashion, too. It doesn't matter if its a giant artistic piece of dogshit which has got loose, or J. J. Abrams latest show, the strange and the odd are still capturing imaginations and peoples curiosity.<br />
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Chaos, equally, is back in fashion more than ever. No matter if its politics or the music industry, the old rules of how things are done, and the elites who control them, are under a barrage of assaults from newcomers and individuals with the power to move and shake the industries they work in. With the second internet revolution in full swing, its becoming easier than ever to get one's voice out there, create an audience, be heard, and bypass the traditional methods of control to say what you want. Equally the weather and the stockmarkets are both going crazy, and becoming ever harder to predict. Many of the old assurances seem to be crumbling in the bright lights of the 21st century.<br />
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The arts of obfuscation, disruption and, well, we can only call it trolling have become more popular than ever, diffusing down into society. Since trolling is part Situationist theatre, part postmodern identity shifting, and we have natural advantages in areas such as that, we have an edge on tactics that the media, the blogs and activists are only just starting to grasp.<br />
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Religious fundamentalism is back on the scene, with all the stupidity and farce such an event brings. Whether its bearded lunatics in caves or meth-taking, rent-boy hiring, homophobic minister, religion is once again proving its potential to destroy lives, ruin countries and damn people on the flimsiest of charges. And so, it must come as a relief to many to find a religion that doesn't want your unquestioning obedience, wont damn you to hell for your sins, doesn't want your time or money or impose any strange dietary practices (barring those with hotdogs), but wants you to have a good time and tell anyone who tries to get in your way to STFU.<br />
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== Post by the Good Reverend Roger ==<br />
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Relevant? Who cares?<br />
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I'm just here to gnaw at the foundations of society like a diseased termite.</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=BurroughsAOMCutup1&diff=444BurroughsAOMCutup12008-09-18T22:24:13Z<p>69.119.239.223: New page: At a surrealist rally in the 1920s Tristan Tzara the man from nowhere proposed to create a poem on the spot by pulling words out of a hat. A riot ensued wrecked the theater. Collage is the...</p>
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<div>At a surrealist rally in the 1920s Tristan Tzara the man from nowhere proposed to create a poem on the spot by pulling words out of a hat. A riot ensued wrecked the theater. Collage is the creation of artwork through the re-arranging of materials already present in the artist's environment. Andre Breton expelled Tristan Tzara from the movement and grounded the cut-ups on the Freudian couch. In many ways, the body itself is made of bricolage as cholesterol and proteins arranged over time into a cohesive structure. <br />
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A persona or projected self is created by cutting newspaper articles into sections and rearranged the sections at random. Minutes to Go resulted from this initial cut-up experiment. Minutes to Go contains unedited unchanged cut ups emerging as quite coherent and meaningful prose. The cut-up method, a process of remixing the available memes, and subcultures form around deforming, transforming, or refusing specific aspects of their cultural memepool. Sorting and selecting from the memes available, most of us pre-consciously create a composite identity that is worn as a vehicle to navigate and negotiate social spaces. In fact all street shots from movie or still cameras are by the unpredictable factors of passers by and juxtaposition cut-ups. The act of selecting a self out of memes is a conceptual bricolage which produces a persona. From within this autonomous sphere memes breed and mutate, as the persona evolves over time within this shared space. And photographers will tell you that often their best shots are accidents . . . writers will tell you the same. There is no way to produce the accident of spontaneity. An iterative process occurs as well, where the results of these remixes are passed back and forth, and as people themselves change in the face of stimulus and stress. You can not will spontaneity. But you can introduce the unpredictable spontaneous factor with a pair of scissors.<br />
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In general memes do not work on your rational mind but rather they affect your unconscious, emotionally entangled, decision-making processes. The method is simple. Here is one way to do it. To affect the structure of our experience and the experience of those bodies, take a page. Like this page. Now cut down the middle and cross the middle. You have four sections: 1 2 3 4 . . . . Memetics does not in general affect things directly, but rather must work through, or on, human agents. Now rearrange the sections. And you have a new page. While we are generally only conscious of messages that are delivered linearly via some specific linguistic pattern, our nervous system also absorbs messages of associational or juxtapositional natures. However, there is no reason to assume memetics requires language to operate. All identity construction, in addition to being a kind of bricolage, is also existent only within a social context. Take any poet or writer you fancy. Here, say, or poems you have read over many times. The words have lost meaning and life through years of repetition. Now take the poem and type out selected passages. Fill a page with excerpts. Now cut the page. You have a new poem. You do not have an identity without some kind of community formation against which to project that identity. Poetry is a place and this community space is also a theater in which performance and stress builds connections. It is free to all cut up Rimbaud and you are in Rimbaude is a Rimbaud poem cut up. <br />
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Visit of memories. Modern communication systems and your voice house. On the suburban air are not constrained to linguistic patterns - all harmonic pine for strife. The technology and behaviors necessary to construct these communications depend on linguistics and textuality. <br />
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The great skies are open. Candor of vapor and tent spitting blood laugh and drunken penance. <br />
The propaganda of the deed is most commonly pictured as terrorism, but can mean any dramatic or awe-inspiring action designed as communication. <br />
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Promenade of wine perfume opens slow bottle. <br />
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In the past the actions only affected those who were physically present. If those not present were effected it was via a retelling or textualizing. Today's media environment in which events and actions are filmed, associated with various emotional markers through juxtaposition and shown directly to many people repeatedly has widened the impact of these types of communication. <br />
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The great skies are open. Supreme bugle burning flesh children to mist. It is against this backdrop of our current communication structure that terrorism has gained its modern power and prevalence, as it is one thing to be told that hundreds of people have died in an event, but it is quite another thing entirely to be shown the event in all its drama, movement, color, and cut-ups. Anybody can make cut ups. It is experimental in the sense of being something to do. Right here write now. Everything that seeks change has a vector along which its movement can be plotted. A memetic body includes the people who share the meme and the objects they use in achieving the meme's intention. Thus while a memetic body, or meme bearer, has at least a metaphorical mass and vector, and this body impacts the larger social organism by its movement and communications, it need not necessarily be a living human. Not something to talk and argue about. Greek philosophers are also capable of transmitting memes, they too are a memetic body. Egregores assumed logically that an object twice as heavy as another object would fall twice as fast. It did not occur to them to push the two objects off the table and see how they fall. Cut the words and see how they fall. <br />
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Shakespeare Rimbaud live in their words. Group behavior is truly an intriguing thing to observe in action. Group minds are, by and large, infectious and possessive. Cut the word lines and you will hear their voices. They seem to displace elements of identity at the pre-conscious level, and as such effect decision-making processes of those involved with the group mind, hijacking the decision-making system. Cut-ups often come through as code messages with special meaning for the cutter. Table tapping? Perhaps. Another factor to consider is that bonds are intensified by stress, and a group that deals with massive amounts of internal and external stress will have a significantly stronger egregore than other groups of similar size but with much less stress. Certainly an improvement on the usual deplorable performance of contacted poets through a medium. <br />
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Once an individual is conscious of the influence of institutions, egregores, and memes, they can more accurately constrain the selection of reactions present in the preconscious mind at any given moment. Rimbaud announces himself, to be followed by some decisions to be based on the individual's intentions and desires. Rather than remaining hardwired to the options imposed by external entities, you are assured of good poetry at least if not personal appearance. <br />
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All writing is in fact cut-ups. A collage of words read heard overhead to expose and deconstruct one's external influences. What else? was hinted at in the previous section and consists of successive iterations of remixing and collaging. As discussed previously, one's self can be seen as a bricolage, an assemblage of various memes. Clear classical idea of the self is composed entirely of rearranged cut-ups. The result of this perception is that one is able then to begin evolving the idea of the self. The self is no longer seen as a singular unit, but rather as a community of interrelated entities perpetually sorting, mixing, selecting, and arranging stimuli into a composite our conscious mind interprets as reality. <br />
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Cutting and rearranging a page of written words introduces a new dimension into writing enabling the writer to turn images in cinematic variation. Images shift sense under the scissors smell images to sound sight to sound sound to kinesthetic. This ongoing, internal cut-up process continues to provide fresh and innovative ideas that the conscious self is often compelled to share with other individuals, which they then internalized and route through the same processes. This is where Rimbaud was going with his color of vowels. Seeing colors tasting sounds smelling forms. Personal evolution.<br />
Taking "systematic derangement of the senses" out of the preconscious awareness and consciously deciding to create a personal evolution, or to manipulate samples, or cut-up text, is an act of revealing one's preconscious influences. Collage will bring to conscious awareness the subliminal influences that are acting upon your decision-making processes in a way that acts both quickly and accurately. <br />
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On the opposite side of the spectrum, you can accelerate personal evolution by joining and participating in a community of meme sharers and engaging in the iterative process of collating, manipulating, and sharing memes within that group. As said previously, it's important to be conscious of what kind of groups you are associated with, and to assess the validity of the information that the group champions, the memes the group disseminates, and how the group's goals dovetail with your own long-term goals. Dr Neumann in his Theory of Games and Economic Behavior introduces the cut-up method of random action into game and military strategy: assume that the worst has happened and act accordingly. Most importantly, you need to know who you are and what you bring to the group. If your strategy is at some point determined . . . by random factor your opponent will gain no advantage from knowing your strategy since he can not predict the move. <br />
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Knowing yourself means knowing your weaknesses, knowing your emotional boundaries, and knowing your psychological triggers. As a reader, your perceptions and insights that arise from this book will be substantially different depending on if you identify as an individual, as a member of a group, or as a leader of a group. The aim here is to become conscious, both of the influences that exert external pressure on individual identity and the influence an individual can have within a group dynamic toward a specific outcome. <br />
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The cut-up method could be used to advantage in processing scientific data. How many discoveries have been made by accident? We can not produce accidents to order. The cut-ups could add new dimension to films. Cut gambling scene in with a thousand gambling scenes all times and places. Cut back. Cut streets of the world. Cut and rearrange the word and image in films. Masterminding is manifesting a group dynamic or pattern that sustains the energy of the group, and having access to a method to map out individuals within the group greatly facilitates this work. There is no reason to accept a second-rate product when you can have the best. And the best is there for all. Poetry is for everyone . . .</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Book_Table_of_Contents&diff=443Book Table of Contents2008-09-18T22:23:54Z<p>69.119.239.223: </p>
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<div>Here's are links to the articles for the Et Cetera Discordia.<br />
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If you don't have an account over here, please get one; it's not ''terribly'' important, but it'll make it easier to track whose done what.<br />
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== notes ==<br />
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[[Notes by Paul and 000]]<br />
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[[to-do]]<br />
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[[Style Discussion]]<br />
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[[Cover]]<br />
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== New Pieces ==<br />
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* [[Introduction to the book]] - by Cram<br />
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* [[What will Discordia look like in 10 years?]]<br />
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* the [[initial post]]. and http://www.principiadiscordia.com/blog/cain/why-discordia-is-more-relevant-in-2008-discussion/<br />
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== Guest Authors? ==<br />
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[[Burroughs]]<br />
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[[AoM]]<br />
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== Definitely In ==<br />
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* [[Introduction to the BIP]] - by RWHN<br />
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* [[Bare Minimum BIP]] - by LMNO and Mangrove<br />
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* [[Vexati0n Materials]] - use 1-3 of these, depending on space requirements<br />
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* [[The Parable of Steve]] - by Nigel<br />
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* [[How it Will Happen, by Enrico Salazar]]<br />
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* [[The Cloved Lemon Kissing Game]]<br />
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* [[Hearts and Minds]] by Cain<br />
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''These Pieces are by Cramulus, and should be presented in order, but not necessarily adjacent. Cram is laying out these pages.''<br />
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* [[The Strange Times]] - possibly an opening piece<br />
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* [[Go OMF Yourself]] - middle of book<br />
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* [[Followup to Go OMF Yourself]] - near end<br />
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Suggestion: last page text should quote Go OMF Yourself, "Keep moving. Stay kinetic. Be the trouble you want to see in the world. Go O:MF yourself. Hail Eris"<br />
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* [[OMGASM Description 2]]<br />
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* [[OMGASM Description 3]]<br />
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* [[Why I Put Up Posters]]<br />
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* [[Channelled Messages]]<br />
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* [[The Great Pope Joan]] - cool piece, not produced by the Masquerade though. A good piece of Discordian Lore.<br />
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* [[the Evil Dead Boxset for Only $3.99]] - by Sepia. Makes for a good style break from other stuff.<br />
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[[Liber FruFru]]<br />
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* [[Random Stuff]] - needs a title. About the weird eclectic state of modern paganism.<br />
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''Shrapnel Theme:''<br />
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* [[the Shrapnel Project]] by RWHN<br />
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* [[Pipe Bombs]] by LHX<br />
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* [[Thoughts on Shrapnel]] by Payne<br />
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Then St. Bones posted: http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/4600/ftshs5.jpg<br />
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[[Stupid Content]] - a short pieces by cainad (actually about Zarathud) and a Discordian application.<br />
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* [[What if the other religions got it right]] (actually, use the title "expanse of the universe" or whatever it says in here)<br />
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== Finished Cutups ==<br />
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[[5 Minutes of Panic]] (by Undue, DirtyEssence, and editing by Cramulus). Broad cutup. (earlier in the book)<br />
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[[Dream Jam]] - (two pieces by Shroom Bob Penta Pants). Middle cutup.<br />
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[[Street Time]] (a combonation of Street Sermon and Save Money, Kill Time. Kill Money, Save Time). Fine cutup. (later in the book)<br />
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== Cut Up Fodder ==<br />
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this is stuff which is ''okay'', but needs heavy editing to be of Print quality. Towards the back, we'll cut it up and maybe make something as a composite of some of these pieces.<br />
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* In this section, a bullet point means it's been used already.<br />
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* [[Street Sermon]] - Nice piece. But the argument that government claim on an object like your car, house, etc, doesn't make it ''yours'' is debatable. It doesn't get to the point quick enough, and makes its whole point in the last paragraph. Maybe just use that?<br />
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* [[Don't Panic]] - I don't like the tone. Already have enough "we're the Discordian Society" pieces.<br />
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* [[Save Money, Kill Time. Kill Money, Save Time]]<br />
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[[Dr Strangelove or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love]] -a piece against monogomy. Probably doesn't need to be printed in full. See usable quotes, in the marginalia section.<br />
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* [[Welcome to Dream Theater]] - Take some of the items in this list and spread them out through other pieces, perhaps with a distinctive font. Don't use all 23 items.<br />
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* [[5 Minutes]] - meh, again, this might be cute cut up with some other pieces. Doesn't stand on its own too well.<br />
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* [[Bird JAMs]] - I don't think this is actually a very good prank, but if we cut some of the paragraphs out-of-context, it might seem more creative than it is.<br />
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== all pieces (unsorted) ==<br />
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[[Letters to the Cabbages]]<br />
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[[The Iconoclast's Manifesto]]<br />
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== Art & Marginalia ==<br />
This stuff should be spread out throughout the book.<br />
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[[Misc Art]]<br />
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[[Myspace Monkeys]] - assorted stuff from myspace cabals<br />
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ART Thread: http://we.dontexist.net/index.php?topic=35.0<br />
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WOMP Thread: http://we.dontexist.net/index.php?topic=150.0<br />
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Pope Certificate Thing by Syn: http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c108/synaptyx/ldd.jpg<br />
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[[Dr Strangelove Quotes]]<br />
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[[The Koan Thread]]<br />
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'''Important question:'''<br />
: Do we have any way of contacting the artists? Because if at all possible, high resolution versions of these would be best. It also would be good to let the artists know that these are going to be printed in black and white and if the lack of color will be ok with them. I'd be happy to do this since the questions and file issues can get technical real quick. <br />
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: Also, could someone host a big zip file of all the WOMP images on CYOHBA or something, because that thread crashes my tab before I can save them. The ART thread loads just fine however. [[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 22:51, 1 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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[[User:Cramulus|Cramulus]] 15:19, 7 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hard to say if we'll be able to find them. I can set you up with an admin account at the wedontexist forum, where you'd be able to see each user's e-mail address. We didn't, however, require e-mail validation or anything, so many of them may be bunk.<br />
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: Everyone that submitted stuff knew it would be treated as KopyLeft, so I'm pretty sure they'll be cool with printing in in B&W.<br />
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: I'll throw together the WOMP stuff into a zip and host it somewhere.<br />
: * Okay here: http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/cramulus/womp.zip<br />
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'''Re: Reply'''<br />
: Fabulous. I'll have a rough draft ready in a few days at the most. [[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 02:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Definitely Not In==<br />
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[[Liber Al Vel lols]] - we didn't write it, don't know who did, and it's not particularly funny unless your a crowlite<br />
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[[OMGASM Description]] - originally I wrote this about OMGASM, but it's a bit out of date, and Bobby Digital / Chloe said it better.<br />
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[[Category:Et Cetera Discordia]]</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Discordia2008&diff=431Discordia20082008-09-15T23:06:28Z<p>69.119.239.223: New page: Why Discordia is more relevant than ever in the year 2008? CRAM NOTE TO SELF THIS NEEDS EDIT ASAP ACT NAO! As time marches on and culture gets weirder and weirder, I think Discordia be...</p>
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<div>Why Discordia is more relevant than ever in the year 2008?<br />
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CRAM NOTE TO SELF THIS NEEDS EDIT ASAP ACT NAO!<br />
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As time marches on and culture gets weirder and weirder, I think Discordia becomes increasingly relevant. I'd like to discuss why Discordia is a better choice now than it's ever been.<br />
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Here's my take, and I'd love to hear yours:<br />
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At its core, Discordia has some very valuable lessons about ignoring cultural programming and navigating our fractillian society on your own terms. Its satirical approach towards religion, something that was once so sacred we couldn't joke about it, is an attitude we can carry into numerous other straightfaced territories. Gender, politics, the economy, war, terrorism, our expectations for the future, your goals, your flaws, your life -- these are things that we can easily misunderstand if we take them to be Real and Serious and a Big Deal. Which isn't to say that they're not a big deal. But that it's better to take them with a grain of salt.<br />
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When we take something seriously, we get rigid, we get tunnel vision, and we become (in some ways) indentured to it. Discordia is about tearing down walls internally as well as externally. In this decade, where there are so many conflicting messages being shouted at us, it's important to differentiate between What Matters and What Doesn't. And the crystal lesson in the center is that people probably take more stuff seriously than is healthy. Healthy for all of us. Discordia is about using flexibility and humor to cope with the dangers and paradoxes of modern living. It's about escaping the two-man con where both choices are bum, and become an active (rather than passive) character in your life's story.<br />
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I think this is the most interesting and confusing period of history to date. Historians will struggle to understand what it was like to live in the 21st century. The Bureaucracy is getting bigger and bigger, and sicker and sicker. There is a great cultural demand for agents of change who will challenge the existing order and suggest that something better will follow. The heroes of our day are the people who are kinetic enough to weave a new tapestry from this threaded culture, and not get weighed down by the dross of the human condition. I'm not interested in the next logical step, I'm interested in that cool stuff that's totally off the beaten path. This is the modern Discordian's role, to exist outside of binary choices, to make objection and change part of the hegemony, and to enjoy oneself despite our programming. We are the silver lining to the cultural cabbage patch. This is not just a society of robots, and we are evidence of it.<br />
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Personally, I don't see Eris as a Goddess in the same outdated way that the Christians or Jews or Ancient Greeks think of Gods. She's not some force in the sky, regulating the world by will. You can't communicate with her through prayer. Personally, I see Eris as a force similar to the internet, similar to the spirit of protest, similar to hair metal. She's not the force, but the attitude through which Bureaucracy is transcended into Aftermath. She is the feeling of finding freedom rather than formula. She is the punchline at the end of a decade long shaggy dog joke. And in that I think she has more to offer than the sepulcher and bureaucratic tangle of other contemporary edifices like religions and ideologies and static.<br />
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So if you ask me, the Principia is 49 or 50 years old, and it's more relevant than ever.</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Book_Table_of_Contents&diff=430Book Table of Contents2008-09-15T23:04:55Z<p>69.119.239.223: /* New Pieces */</p>
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<div>Here's are links to the articles for the Et Cetera Discordia.<br />
<br />
Please edit at will. When you feel a piece is "finished" (ie, needs no moar editing), mark it with a bullet. <br />
* like this<br />
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If you don't have an account over here, please get one; it's not ''terribly'' important, but it'll make it easier to track whose done what.<br />
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<br />
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== notes ==<br />
<br />
[[Notes by Paul and 000]]<br />
<br />
[[to-do]]<br />
<br />
[[Style Discussion]]<br />
<br />
[[Cover]]<br />
<br />
<br />
== New Pieces ==<br />
for pieces added after the fourth draft or so.<br />
<br />
* [[Introduction to the book]] - by Cram<br />
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* [[What will Discordia look like in 10 years?]]<br />
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* the [[initial post]]. and http://www.principiadiscordia.com/blog/cain/why-discordia-is-more-relevant-in-2008-discussion/<br />
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== Definitely In ==<br />
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* [[Introduction to the BIP]] - by RWHN<br />
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* [[Bare Minimum BIP]] - by LMNO and Mangrove<br />
<br />
* [[Vexati0n Materials]] - use 1-3 of these, depending on space requirements<br />
<br />
* [[The Parable of Steve]] - by Nigel<br />
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* [[How it Will Happen, by Enrico Salazar]]<br />
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* [[The Cloved Lemon Kissing Game]]<br />
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* [[Hearts and Minds]] by Cain<br />
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''These Pieces are by Cramulus, and should be presented in order, but not necessarily adjacent. Cram is laying out these pages.''<br />
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* [[The Strange Times]] - possibly an opening piece<br />
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* [[Go OMF Yourself]] - middle of book<br />
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* [[Followup to Go OMF Yourself]] - near end<br />
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Suggestion: last page text should quote Go OMF Yourself, "Keep moving. Stay kinetic. Be the trouble you want to see in the world. Go O:MF yourself. Hail Eris"<br />
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* [[OMGASM Description 2]]<br />
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* [[OMGASM Description 3]]<br />
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* [[Why I Put Up Posters]]<br />
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* [[Channelled Messages]]<br />
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* [[The Great Pope Joan]] - cool piece, not produced by the Masquerade though. A good piece of Discordian Lore.<br />
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* [[the Evil Dead Boxset for Only $3.99]] - by Sepia. Makes for a good style break from other stuff.<br />
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[[Liber FruFru]]<br />
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* [[Random Stuff]] - needs a title. About the weird eclectic state of modern paganism.<br />
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''Shrapnel Theme:''<br />
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* [[the Shrapnel Project]] by RWHN<br />
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* [[Pipe Bombs]] by LHX<br />
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* [[Thoughts on Shrapnel]] by Payne<br />
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Then St. Bones posted: http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/4600/ftshs5.jpg<br />
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[[Stupid Content]] - a short pieces by cainad (actually about Zarathud) and a Discordian application.<br />
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* [[What if the other religions got it right]] (actually, use the title "expanse of the universe" or whatever it says in here)<br />
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== Finished Cutups ==<br />
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[[5 Minutes of Panic]] (by Undue, DirtyEssence, and editing by Cramulus). Broad cutup. (earlier in the book)<br />
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[[Dream Jam]] - (two pieces by Shroom Bob Penta Pants). Middle cutup.<br />
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[[Street Time]] (a combonation of Street Sermon and Save Money, Kill Time. Kill Money, Save Time). Fine cutup. (later in the book)<br />
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== Cut Up Fodder ==<br />
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this is stuff which is ''okay'', but needs heavy editing to be of Print quality. Towards the back, we'll cut it up and maybe make something as a composite of some of these pieces.<br />
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* In this section, a bullet point means it's been used already.<br />
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* [[Street Sermon]] - Nice piece. But the argument that government claim on an object like your car, house, etc, doesn't make it ''yours'' is debatable. It doesn't get to the point quick enough, and makes its whole point in the last paragraph. Maybe just use that?<br />
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* [[Don't Panic]] - I don't like the tone. Already have enough "we're the Discordian Society" pieces.<br />
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* [[Save Money, Kill Time. Kill Money, Save Time]]<br />
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[[Dr Strangelove or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love]] -a piece against monogomy. Probably doesn't need to be printed in full. See usable quotes, in the marginalia section.<br />
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* [[Welcome to Dream Theater]] - Take some of the items in this list and spread them out through other pieces, perhaps with a distinctive font. Don't use all 23 items.<br />
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* [[5 Minutes]] - meh, again, this might be cute cut up with some other pieces. Doesn't stand on its own too well.<br />
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* [[Bird JAMs]] - I don't think this is actually a very good prank, but if we cut some of the paragraphs out-of-context, it might seem more creative than it is.<br />
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== all pieces (unsorted) ==<br />
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[[Letters to the Cabbages]]<br />
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[[The Iconoclast's Manifesto]]<br />
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== Art & Marginalia ==<br />
This stuff should be spread out throughout the book.<br />
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[[Misc Art]]<br />
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[[Marginalia]]<br />
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[[Myspace Monkeys]] - assorted stuff from myspace cabals<br />
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ART Thread: http://we.dontexist.net/index.php?topic=35.0<br />
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WOMP Thread: http://we.dontexist.net/index.php?topic=150.0<br />
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Pope Certificate Thing by Syn: http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c108/synaptyx/ldd.jpg<br />
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[[Dr Strangelove Quotes]]<br />
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[[The Koan Thread]]<br />
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'''Important question:'''<br />
: Do we have any way of contacting the artists? Because if at all possible, high resolution versions of these would be best. It also would be good to let the artists know that these are going to be printed in black and white and if the lack of color will be ok with them. I'd be happy to do this since the questions and file issues can get technical real quick. <br />
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: Also, could someone host a big zip file of all the WOMP images on CYOHBA or something, because that thread crashes my tab before I can save them. The ART thread loads just fine however. [[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 22:51, 1 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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'''Reply'''<br />
[[User:Cramulus|Cramulus]] 15:19, 7 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hard to say if we'll be able to find them. I can set you up with an admin account at the wedontexist forum, where you'd be able to see each user's e-mail address. We didn't, however, require e-mail validation or anything, so many of them may be bunk.<br />
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: Everyone that submitted stuff knew it would be treated as KopyLeft, so I'm pretty sure they'll be cool with printing in in B&W.<br />
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: I'll throw together the WOMP stuff into a zip and host it somewhere.<br />
: * Okay here: http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/cramulus/womp.zip<br />
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'''Re: Reply'''<br />
: Fabulous. I'll have a rough draft ready in a few days at the most. [[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 02:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Definitely Not In==<br />
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[[Liber Al Vel lols]] - we didn't write it, don't know who did, and it's not particularly funny unless your a crowlite<br />
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[[OMGASM Description]] - originally I wrote this about OMGASM, but it's a bit out of date, and Bobby Digital / Chloe said it better.<br />
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<div>Go Mindfuck Yourself<br />
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''or''<br />
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Be the Trouble You Want to See in the World<br />
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''Celine reared back as if I had waved offal under his nose. "Objectivists?" he pronounced the word as if I had accused him of being a child-molester. "We're anarchists and outlaws, goddam it. Didn't you understand that much? We've got nothing to do with right-wing, left-wing or any other half-assed political category. If you work within the system, you come to one of the either/or choices that were implicit in the system from the beginning. You're talking like a medieval serf, asking the first agnostic whether he worships God or the Devil. We're outside the system's categories. You'll never get the hang of our game if you keep thinking in flat-earth imagery of right and left, good and evil, up and down. If you need a group label for us, we're political non-Euclideans. But even that's not true. Sink me, nobody of this tub agrees with anybody else about anything, except maybe what the fellow with the horns told the old man in the clouds: Non serviam."''<br />
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Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea, ''Illuminatus''!<br />
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Eris loves activists.<br />
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Here in the Strange Times, there's a million billion crawly little critters trying to ride you down the river. See, you're floating through chaotic, shrapnel filled rapids. The foamy waters are brimming with symbols and images and squiggles and good causes. It's easy to cling to one like a life preserver and ride it for all its worth. You're clinging to some right now. You are a sticky meme, and you're trying to stay afloat. It's only human. <br />
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The first part of the Golden Secret is to '''Let Go'''.<br />
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You grabbed onto that that symbol and that in-joke and that good cause because they were at the right place at the right time. When you're receptive, it's convenient to get on a raft made of religion or politics or some other made-up ideology. It's easy to assemble an identity out of tastes and values and shrapnel floating by. Over time, some of that stuff stops supporting your weight. Right when you're about to go under, you reach out and grab onto some other piece of shrapnel. You cling to it and use it to hold your head above the waters. At some point, you saw some stuff and met some people, and their shtick appealed to you, and you internalized it, and now you think that stuff is a ''part of you''. <br />
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Fast forward to the present: you're riding down the river in a barrel, your knuckles white as they grip your life preservers. Your pockets are stuffed with photographs, and there's cultural water in your ears. Let GO already. You don't need that crap. That's somebody else's crap. Learn to swim on your own.<br />
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The second part of the Golden Secret is to '''Ignite Yourself, While There's Still Time'''.<br />
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I'm advocating activities. Not activism, but ''activitism''. I don't recommend you go find a ''cause'' (or some other baggage) to serve, I'm recommending you get up, get out, and DO something. They've got you whipped like a circus lion to watch the world and then react to it. They want you to be a passive observer. The face on the money has you trained like Pavlov's dog. That's how the Machine works. It's made of perfectly predictable parts. <br />
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You could get bored. You could get numb. You could be alone in a sea of people. These are the Dangers of Modern Living.<br />
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There's something out there which will make you excited just to wake up in the morning, and it's ''not'' spending your hard earned money on the latest You've-Gotta-See-This blockbuster. That shrapnel is just a distraction. The voices of the cultural chorus are a distraction too, because really, you're ''not'' one of Them.<br />
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You're a freak. You're weird in ways not even your best friends can understand. This is the Strange Times, and there are no groups of people, only individuals standing next to each other. <br />
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There's somebody in your life who you look to for direction. The one with the plan. The one who has great ideas. The one who seems to know what's going on. Kill him. Take his job. Become him. Quit waiting for somebody else to come up with something fun to do. Quit waiting for rock bottom or some other excuse to change what you don't like about yourself. Cough up all the water in your lungs and BREATHE you'll drown if you don't BREATHE for the first time ever BREATHE.<br />
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This isn't a lesson you can learn once and internalize. This is an ongoing challenge to [u]constantly reinvent yourself[/u]. This is a never ending battle you must wage against your comfort and your identity. If you think you've learned this lesson, then you stink of complacency. Initiation ''never'' ends. <br />
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Keep moving. Stay kinetic. <br />
Be the trouble you want to see in the world. <br />
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Go Mindfuck yourself.<br />
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Hail Eris<br />
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== General Rules ==<br />
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There are two types of spell packets. Regular spell packets work if they hit you anywhere. Spell packets with streamers work only if they hit you in a legal target. They can be blocked.<br />
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Called effects are not spent unless the target role plays the effect or calls a defense.<br />
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== Character Generation ==<br />
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Characters have 4 points to spend between these statistics:<br />
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* Red - represents strength and fortitude<br />
* Yellow - represents speed and reflexes<br />
* Blue - represents intelligence and willpower<br />
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Characters start with 3 hit points.<br />
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# pick [[feats]].<br />
# pick a [[class]].<br />
# choose class features or skills<br />
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== Status Effects ==<br />
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'''Push''' - target must immediately take three steps back, and cannot attack until he does. If he is unable to move back, he is immobilized for three seconds.<br />
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'''Slam''' - the target is knocked to the ground. The effect ends once the target's ass or elbows have touched the ground.<br />
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'''Maim''' - If a ''Maim'' is delivered by weapon, it must hit a limb. If the attack hits a torso, it has no effect. A ''Main'' delivered by packet must specify a limb. A maimbed limb hangs by your side, and cannot <br />
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'''Mark''' - When someone ''Marks'' you, they will receive beneficial effects if you attack someone other than them. When marked, it is best to focus on the person who marked you. A mark lasts for the duration of the encounter.<br />
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'''Weak''' - When ''weakened'', you cannot use called melee attacks.<br />
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'''Dizzy''' - When ''dizzy'', you cannot use called ranged attacks.<br />
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'''Slow''' - When ''slow'', you cannot run.<br />
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'''Pin''' - When ''pinned'', your right foot is planted on the ground. You can still pivot on it, but you can't pick it up.<br />
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=== Resolving Status Effects ===<br />
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All status effects last until they are removed, or until you rest. Some skills may allow you to purge a status effect. Otherwise, you must rest to remove them. Resting involves standing still or sitting for five minutes.<br />
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== Chained Skills ==<br />
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A Chained Skill allows you to use a series of abilities. After successfully using the first ability in the chain, you may use the next ability on the skill's list. The abilities get progressively better as the chain continues.<br />
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You may only have one chain active at a time.<br />
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=== Breaking a Chain ===<br />
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If something prevents you from being able to perform the next ability in the chain, the chain is broken and the skill is expended.<br />
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=== Chained Skill Keywords ===<br />
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'''Fast''' - Chained Skills with the ''Fast'' keyword must be performed quickly. After using an ability, you have ten seconds to use the next ability or the chain is broken.<br />
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'''Concentration Required''' - The chain is broken if you take damage.<br />
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'''Any Order''' - You may perform the abilities listed in the chain in any order.<br />
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'''One Target''' - You may only use the abilities listed in the chain against one target.<br />
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'''Melee''' - Abilities on this list must be delivered by a melee weapon.<br />
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'''Magic''' - Abilities on this list must be delivered by magic spell packets. If you are hit while saying the call, the spell is disrupted.<br />
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'''Ranged''' - Abilities on this list must be delivered by ranged weapons.<br />
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=== Chained Skill Examples ===<br />
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'''Ice Spells''' - Requires Concentration - Magic<br />
# Ranged spell attack - 1 damage by ice<br />
# Ranges spell attack - slow by ice<br />
# Ranged spell attack - 2 damage by ice<br />
# Ranges spell attack - slow by ice<br />
# Ranged spell attack - 5 damage by ice<br />
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'''Protectives''' - Any Order - Magic<br />
# Bless - grants one temporary hit point<br />
# Bless - grants one temporary hit point<br />
# Bless - grants one temporary hit point<br />
# Magic Armor - call ''guard'' against the next weapon attack to hit you<br />
# Choose between one of the following spells:<br />
* Shield Magic - call ''guard by magic'' against the first spell to effect you<br />
* Reflect Magic - call ''reflect by magic'' against the first spell to effect you<br />
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'''Blade Fury''' - One Target - Melee<br />
# Weapon attack: Mark. If the target calls an effect on someone other than you, you get one swing for "2 damage" against them. If the chain is broken, this attack is lost.<br />
# Push<br />
# Maim<br />
# 2 Damage<br />
# 5 Damage<br />
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'''Rage''' - melee<br />
# 2 damage<br />
# 2 damage<br />
# 5 damage<br />
# 2 damage<br />
# 5 damage<br />
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'''Battle Leader's Gambit''' - melee<br />
# 2 damage<br />
# Bless - grants one temporary hit point<br />
# 2 damage<br />
# Cure Spell - 1 healing, by touch<br />
# 5 damage<br />
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'''Healer's Gambit''' - magic - any order<br />
# Cure Spell - 1 healing, by touch<br />
# Cure Spell - 2 healing, by touch<br />
# Cure Spell - 3 healing, by touch<br />
# Cure Spell - 4 healing, by touch<br />
# Cure Spell - 5 healing, by touch<br />
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== Stances ==<br />
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When engaged in a stance, you get certain abilities you may use in reaction to other abilites. You may only have one stance active at a time. Activating a stance requires a some action or roleplay.<br />
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=== Stance Keywords ===<br />
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'''Pin''' - While this stance is active, your right foot must stay planted on the ground, as the ''pin'' effect. If you choose to move your foot or something forces you to move it, the stance is ended.<br />
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'''Quick''' - While this stance is active, you may not stand still. If something forces you to stop moving, the stance is broken. Be especially careful when making attacks while running.<br />
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'''Slow''' - While this stance is active, you may not run, as the ''slow'' effect. If you choose to run or something forces you to run, the stance is ended. It is not ended by a ''push'' effect.<br />
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=== Stance Examples ===<br />
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'''Guardsman's Stance''' - Pin <br />
*''Activation:'' You spend 3 seconds posing.<br />
*''Effect:'' You gain 3 ''parries'' to use against attacks against an ally, but not against yourself. To use this ability, put your weapon on your ally's shoulder and call out ''parry''.<br />
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'''Rage Stance''' - Quick<br />
*''Activation:'' You must call out a battle cry. It must be at least three words long, and contain the word Rage.<br />
*''Effect:'' If you are hit with a called attack which does damage to you, and you role play the damage, you gain a melee attack for 2 damage. You cannot gain more than one of these attacks at a time. When you leave this stance, you are weakened by fatigue.<br />
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'''Sturdy Stance''' - Pin<br />
*''Activation:'' spend 3 seconds posing. <br />
*''Effect:'' If hit with a push or slam effect, you may call ''parry'', and gain a push attack against that opponent.</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Topaz_Engine&diff=423Topaz Engine2008-09-08T21:49:32Z<p>69.119.239.223: New page: brain fart produced ideas towards oneshot boffer larp combat engine == General Rules == There are two types of spell packets. Regular spell packets work if they hit you anywhere. Spell ...</p>
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== General Rules ==<br />
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There are two types of spell packets. Regular spell packets work if they hit you anywhere. Spell packets with streamers work only if they hit you in a legal target. They can be blocked.<br />
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Called effects are not spent unless the target role plays the effect or calls a defense.<br />
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== Character Generation ==<br />
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Characters have 4 points to spend between these statistics:<br />
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* Red - represents strength and fortitude<br />
* Yellow - represents speed and reflexes<br />
* Blue - represents intelligence and willpower<br />
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Characters start with 3 hit points.<br />
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They pick feats.<br />
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They pick a class.<br />
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They choose their skills.<br />
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== Status Effects ==<br />
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'''Push''' - target must immediately take three steps back, and cannot attack until he does. If he is unable to move back, he is immobilized for three seconds.<br />
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'''Slam''' - the target is knocked to the ground. The effect ends once the target's ass or elbows have touched the ground.<br />
<br />
'''Maim''' - If a ''Maim'' is delivered by weapon, it must hit a limb. If the attack hits a torso, it has no effect. A ''Main'' delivered by packet must specify a limb. A maimbed limb hangs by your side, and cannot <br />
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'''Mark''' - When someone ''Marks'' you, they will receive beneficial effects if you attack someone other than them. When marked, it is best to focus on the person who marked you. A mark lasts for the duration of the encounter.<br />
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'''Weak''' - When ''weakened'', you cannot use called melee attacks.<br />
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'''Dizzy''' - When ''dizzy'', you cannot use called ranged attacks.<br />
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'''Slow''' - When ''slow'', you cannot run.<br />
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'''Pin''' - When ''pinned'', your right foot is planted on the ground. You can still pivot on it, but you can't pick it up.<br />
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=== Resolving Status Effects ===<br />
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All status effects last until they are removed, or until you rest. Some skills may allow you to purge a status effect. Otherwise, you must rest to remove them. Resting involves standing still or sitting for five minutes.<br />
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== Chained Skills ==<br />
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A Chained Skill allows you to use a series of abilities. After successfully using the first ability in the chain, you may use the next ability on the skill's list. The abilities get progressively better as the chain continues.<br />
<br />
You may only have one chain active at a time.<br />
<br />
=== Breaking a Chain ===<br />
<br />
If something prevents you from being able to perform the next ability in the chain, the chain is broken and the skill is expended.<br />
<br />
=== Chained Skill Keywords ===<br />
<br />
'''Fast''' - Chained Skills with the ''Fast'' keyword must be performed quickly. After using an ability, you have ten seconds to use the next ability or the chain is broken.<br />
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'''Concentration Required''' - The chain is broken if you take damage.<br />
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'''Any Order''' - You may perform the abilities listed in the chain in any order.<br />
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'''One Target''' - You may only use the abilities listed in the chain against one target.<br />
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'''Melee''' - Abilities on this list must be delivered by a melee weapon.<br />
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'''Magic''' - Abilities on this list must be delivered by magic spell packets. If you are hit while saying the call, the spell is disrupted.<br />
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'''Ranged''' - Abilities on this list must be delivered by ranged weapons.<br />
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=== Chained Skill Examples ===<br />
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'''Ice Spells''' - Requires Concentration - Magic<br />
# Ranged spell attack - 1 damage by ice<br />
# Ranges spell attack - slow by ice<br />
# Ranged spell attack - 2 damage by ice<br />
# Ranges spell attack - slow by ice<br />
# Ranged spell attack - 5 damage by ice<br />
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'''Protectives''' - Any Order - Magic<br />
# Bless - grants one temporary hit point<br />
# Bless - grants one temporary hit point<br />
# Bless - grants one temporary hit point<br />
# Magic Armor - call ''guard'' against the next weapon attack to hit you<br />
# Choose between one of the following spells:<br />
* Shield Magic - call ''guard by magic'' against the first spell to effect you<br />
* Reflect Magic - call ''reflect by magic'' against the first spell to effect you<br />
<br />
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'''Blade Fury''' - One Target - Melee<br />
# Weapon attack: Mark. If the target calls an effect on someone other than you, you get one swing for "2 damage" against them. If the chain is broken, this attack is lost.<br />
# Push<br />
# Maim<br />
# 2 Damage<br />
# 5 Damage<br />
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'''Rage''' - melee<br />
# 2 damage<br />
# 2 damage<br />
# 5 damage<br />
# 2 damage<br />
# 5 damage<br />
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'''Battle Leader's Gambit''' - melee<br />
# 2 damage<br />
# Bless - grants one temporary hit point<br />
# 2 damage<br />
# Cure Spell - 1 healing, by touch<br />
# 5 damage<br />
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'''Healer's Gambit''' - magic - any order<br />
# Cure Spell - 1 healing, by touch<br />
# Cure Spell - 2 healing, by touch<br />
# Cure Spell - 3 healing, by touch<br />
# Cure Spell - 4 healing, by touch<br />
# Cure Spell - 5 healing, by touch<br />
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== Stances ==<br />
<br />
When engaged in a stance, you get certain abilities you may use in reaction to other abilites. You may only have one stance active at a time. Activating a stance requires a some action or roleplay.<br />
<br />
=== Stance Keywords ===<br />
<br />
'''Pin''' - While this stance is active, your right foot must stay planted on the ground, as the ''pin'' effect. If you choose to move your foot or something forces you to move it, the stance is ended.<br />
<br />
'''Quick''' - While this stance is active, you may not stand still. If something forces you to stop moving, the stance is broken. Be especially careful when making attacks while running.<br />
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'''Slow''' - While this stance is active, you may not run, as the ''slow'' effect. If you choose to run or something forces you to run, the stance is ended. It is not ended by a ''push'' effect.<br />
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=== Stance Examples ===<br />
<br />
'''Guardsman's Stance''' - Pin <br />
*''Activation:'' You spend 3 seconds posing.<br />
*''Effect:'' You gain 3 ''parries'' to use against attacks against an ally, but not against yourself. To use this ability, put your weapon on your ally's shoulder and call out ''parry''.<br />
<br />
'''Rage Stance''' - Quick<br />
*''Activation:'' You must call out a battle cry. It must be at least three words long, and contain the word Rage.<br />
*''Effect:'' If you are hit with a called attack which does damage to you, and you role play the damage, you gain a melee attack for 2 damage. You cannot gain more than one of these attacks at a time. When you leave this stance, you are weakened by fatigue.<br />
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'''Sturdy Stance''' - Pin<br />
*''Activation:'' spend 3 seconds posing. <br />
*''Effect:'' If hit with a push or slam effect, you may call ''parry'', and gain a push attack against that opponent.</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=422Main Page2008-09-08T20:30:42Z<p>69.119.239.223: </p>
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This wiki is supposed to house Cramulus' various projects and ideas. It's a sort of workspace for all sorts of garbage.<br />
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== Et Cetera Discordia ==<br />
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[[Titles]]<br />
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[[Book Table of Contents]]<br />
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== Misc. Stuff ==<br />
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[[Creative Portfolio]] - workshop for my creative portfolio, which will get me hired by '''fabulous tycoons'''.<br />
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[[Pr0sterGASM]] - augmented mission for postergasm intending to increase its viral potential<br />
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[[spag-o-tron]] - robot to generate asinine blog comments<br />
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[[Cramble]] - an RFID game for conferences and conventions<br />
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[[Name Placeholder]]</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=What_will_Discordia_look_like_in_10_years%3F&diff=421What will Discordia look like in 10 years?2008-09-04T02:18:57Z<p>69.119.239.223: New page: Net, do you think there's a way to publish a forum thread like a conversation? here's some stuff which could work, if there's a way to format it properly. I've included either a link to t...</p>
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<div>Net, do you think there's a way to publish a forum thread like a conversation?<br />
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here's some stuff which could work, if there's a way to format it properly. I've included either a link to the post, or an edited C&P of the post. Let me know what you think. Triple Zero, maybe you could draw this up as a comic, and leave large spaces to paste in the text?<br />
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---Cram<br />
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Intro post:<br />
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http://we.dontexist.net/index.php?topic=14.msg24#msg24<br />
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I have found that Discordians all seem to share a similar sense of humor and irreverence, and subcultural references.<br />
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Discordians fall into one or more of the following categories:<br />
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pranksters<br />
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hackers<br />
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occultists<br />
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I see Discordianism as being the juncture between these three groups, where their interests overlap. I don't see that changing in the next ten years.<br />
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The big impact I've seen over just the last couple of years is this whole social networking explosion. The mandate used to be, "find the others." We didn't know who our compatriots were - Discordians usually aren't obvious in a crowd - and a lot of us thought we were the only Discordians out there. Before I got online, I thought I was the only one who fell into Illuminatus! and realized I'd been a Discordian all along. The internet swiftly and happily proved me wrong on that point. <br />
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Now it's even easier to find the others. We've been working hard on finding each other for the last few years, and now we've built these big forums and powerful networks.<br />
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The big question I think the next ten years may answer is, "now that we've found each other, now that we've built these networks... what are we going to do about it?"<br />
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I think the next ten years will give rise to more big Discordian projects and gatherings, like OMGASM and KallistiCon and even this Masquerade. I think we'll see more publications and more networked mindfucks across the country, more meetups and convocations.<br />
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-St. Mae<br />
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I think Discordianism is much more than that, and that's what you'll see. We forget that there was a point to all this nonsense, that it was about personal freedom, an intellectual and cultural renaissance, an underground think tank. It was about seeing things from different perspectives, getting away from black and white thinking, from "I'm right and you're wrong." It was about true Illumination, about knowing what's really going on and how you fit into to all the ordered chaos.<br />
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Discordianism is great for pranksters, so-so for hackers, and really rather lame for occultists. I think we'll see a revival of actual purpose, and maybe somebody will actually get the vision that Greg Hill, Kerry Thornley, Robert Anton Wilson, Robert Shea, Hakim Bey, Harold Lloyd Randomfactor, Camden Benares and the rest actually had. A few people have, but very few. There's more to Erisians than pranks and hacks and pseudoreligious nonsense.<br />
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But most Discordians don't get it. Look for the Discordians who do get it. They are the future. They are our future.<br />
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''And more pretentious nonsense.''<br />
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-Rev Loveshade<br />
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I don't think that reducing it to pranks and hacks and pseudoreligious nonsense is what I was referring to. Those are avenues to the same goal, the visions we're all slouching towards like rough beasts. I think we're talking about the same thing by different names. It's somewhere in that triangulation between what you do and why you do it, and what you're hoping for.<br />
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I'm not sure that most Discordians don't get it either, though for a lot of us it's a dreamseed rather than a grown leafy idea.<br />
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-St. Mae<br />
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posts:<br />
http://we.dontexist.net/index.php?topic=14.msg1212#msg1212<br />
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http://we.dontexist.net/index.php?topic=14.msg1438#msg1438 - Nigel</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Book_Table_of_Contents&diff=420Book Table of Contents2008-09-04T02:09:18Z<p>69.119.239.223: /* Definitely In */</p>
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<div>Here's are links to the articles for the Et Cetera Discordia.<br />
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Please edit at will. When you feel a piece is "finished" (ie, needs no moar editing), mark it with a bullet. <br />
* like this<br />
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If you don't have an account over here, please get one; it's not ''terribly'' important, but it'll make it easier to track whose done what.<br />
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== notes ==<br />
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[[Notes by Paul and 000]]<br />
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[[to-do]]<br />
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[[Style Discussion]]<br />
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[[Cover]]<br />
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== New Pieces ==<br />
for pieces added after the fourth draft or so.<br />
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* [[Introduction to the book]] - by Cram<br />
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* [[What will Discordia look like in 10 years?]]<br />
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== Definitely In ==<br />
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* [[Introduction to the BIP]] - by RWHN<br />
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* [[Bare Minimum BIP]] - by LMNO and Mangrove<br />
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* [[Vexati0n Materials]] - use 1-3 of these, depending on space requirements<br />
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* [[The Parable of Steve]] - by Nigel<br />
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* [[How it Will Happen, by Enrico Salazar]]<br />
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* [[The Cloved Lemon Kissing Game]]<br />
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* [[Hearts and Minds]] by Cain<br />
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''These Pieces are by Cramulus, and should be presented in order, but not necessarily adjacent. Cram is laying out these pages.''<br />
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* [[The Strange Times]] - possibly an opening piece<br />
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* [[Go OMF Yourself]] - middle of book<br />
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* [[Followup to Go OMF Yourself]] - near end<br />
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Suggestion: last page text should quote Go OMF Yourself, "Keep moving. Stay kinetic. Be the trouble you want to see in the world. Go O:MF yourself. Hail Eris"<br />
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* [[OMGASM Description 2]]<br />
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* [[OMGASM Description 3]]<br />
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* [[Why I Put Up Posters]]<br />
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* [[Channelled Messages]]<br />
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* [[The Great Pope Joan]] - cool piece, not produced by the Masquerade though. A good piece of Discordian Lore.<br />
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* [[the Evil Dead Boxset for Only $3.99]] - by Sepia. Makes for a good style break from other stuff.<br />
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[[Liber FruFru]]<br />
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* [[Random Stuff]] - needs a title. About the weird eclectic state of modern paganism.<br />
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''Shrapnel Theme:''<br />
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* [[the Shrapnel Project]] by RWHN<br />
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* [[Pipe Bombs]] by LHX<br />
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* [[Thoughts on Shrapnel]] by Payne<br />
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Then St. Bones posted: http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/4600/ftshs5.jpg<br />
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[[Stupid Content]] - a short pieces by cainad (actually about Zarathud) and a Discordian application.<br />
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* [[What if the other religions got it right]] (actually, use the title "expanse of the universe" or whatever it says in here)<br />
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== Finished Cutups ==<br />
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[[5 Minutes of Panic]] (by Undue, DirtyEssence, and editing by Cramulus). Broad cutup. (earlier in the book)<br />
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[[Dream Jam]] - (two pieces by Shroom Bob Penta Pants). Middle cutup.<br />
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[[Street Time]] (a combonation of Street Sermon and Save Money, Kill Time. Kill Money, Save Time). Fine cutup. (later in the book)<br />
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== Cut Up Fodder ==<br />
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this is stuff which is ''okay'', but needs heavy editing to be of Print quality. Towards the back, we'll cut it up and maybe make something as a composite of some of these pieces.<br />
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* In this section, a bullet point means it's been used already.<br />
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* [[Street Sermon]] - Nice piece. But the argument that government claim on an object like your car, house, etc, doesn't make it ''yours'' is debatable. It doesn't get to the point quick enough, and makes its whole point in the last paragraph. Maybe just use that?<br />
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* [[Don't Panic]] - I don't like the tone. Already have enough "we're the Discordian Society" pieces.<br />
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* [[Save Money, Kill Time. Kill Money, Save Time]]<br />
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[[Dr Strangelove or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love]] -a piece against monogomy. Probably doesn't need to be printed in full. See usable quotes, in the marginalia section.<br />
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* [[Welcome to Dream Theater]] - Take some of the items in this list and spread them out through other pieces, perhaps with a distinctive font. Don't use all 23 items.<br />
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* [[5 Minutes]] - meh, again, this might be cute cut up with some other pieces. Doesn't stand on its own too well.<br />
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* [[Bird JAMs]] - I don't think this is actually a very good prank, but if we cut some of the paragraphs out-of-context, it might seem more creative than it is.<br />
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== all pieces (unsorted) ==<br />
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[[Letters to the Cabbages]]<br />
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[[The Iconoclast's Manifesto]]<br />
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== Art & Marginalia ==<br />
This stuff should be spread out throughout the book.<br />
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[[Misc Art]]<br />
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[[Marginalia]]<br />
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[[Myspace Monkeys]] - assorted stuff from myspace cabals<br />
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ART Thread: http://we.dontexist.net/index.php?topic=35.0<br />
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WOMP Thread: http://we.dontexist.net/index.php?topic=150.0<br />
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Pope Certificate Thing by Syn: http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c108/synaptyx/ldd.jpg<br />
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[[Dr Strangelove Quotes]]<br />
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[[The Koan Thread]]<br />
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'''Important question:'''<br />
: Do we have any way of contacting the artists? Because if at all possible, high resolution versions of these would be best. It also would be good to let the artists know that these are going to be printed in black and white and if the lack of color will be ok with them. I'd be happy to do this since the questions and file issues can get technical real quick. <br />
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: Also, could someone host a big zip file of all the WOMP images on CYOHBA or something, because that thread crashes my tab before I can save them. The ART thread loads just fine however. [[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 22:51, 1 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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'''Reply'''<br />
[[User:Cramulus|Cramulus]] 15:19, 7 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Hard to say if we'll be able to find them. I can set you up with an admin account at the wedontexist forum, where you'd be able to see each user's e-mail address. We didn't, however, require e-mail validation or anything, so many of them may be bunk.<br />
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: Everyone that submitted stuff knew it would be treated as KopyLeft, so I'm pretty sure they'll be cool with printing in in B&W.<br />
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: I'll throw together the WOMP stuff into a zip and host it somewhere.<br />
: * Okay here: http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/cramulus/womp.zip<br />
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'''Re: Reply'''<br />
: Fabulous. I'll have a rough draft ready in a few days at the most. [[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 02:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Definitely Not In==<br />
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[[Liber Al Vel lols]] - we didn't write it, don't know who did, and it's not particularly funny unless your a crowlite<br />
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[[OMGASM Description]] - originally I wrote this about OMGASM, but it's a bit out of date, and Bobby Digital / Chloe said it better.<br />
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[[Category:Et Cetera Discordia]]</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Introduction_to_the_book&diff=417Introduction to the book2008-08-28T02:04:47Z<p>69.119.239.223: New page: The Gods were annoyed, to say the least. But we had rented the space, fair and square, so they just had to clear out and spend the week on a cruise through the Astral. Apollo, in his littl...</p>
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<div>The Gods were annoyed, to say the least. But we had rented the space, fair and square, so they just had to clear out and spend the week on a cruise through the Astral. Apollo, in his little white vacation shoes, flipped me off on the way out. They had just heard the news, that Limbo Peak had been rented out by Discordians.<br />
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See, when Triple Zero and I reserved the place, we wore these sweet masks. I was Hairacles and he was Kolonoskopos. We told them it was a masquerade ball, but we didn't tell 'em who was on the guest list. <br />
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[Insert pic of kolonoskopos and hairacles]<br />
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When Zeus found out, he got all bitchtits. "Discordians?" he thundered. "Aw honey, they're gonna foul the pool..." Then someone informed him that skinnydipping was listed on their agenda, and that old windbag's bitchtits burst out of his beardhole. "I forbid the pool entirely!" Sure thing pops. Yeah, we're good guests. Where do you keep the towels?<br />
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See, our Lady Eris is celebrating 49 or 50 years or so since she sent that imaginary penguin to freak out those spags Mal and Omar. Since then, it's been more or less a constant party - like something Crowley would envision while deep in some ass trance. So in a way, we're celebrating 49 or 50 years of constant partying with an even weirder party.<br />
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And we have a lot to talk about. There are a lot of pranks, projects, and energy in the Discordian society. Planet X turned out to be Our Lady Eris' deep space hideout. We've got people deep cover infiltrated into the mainstream media. We're all over the place like tossed cookies.<br />
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So 000 and I, er, Hairacles and Kolonoskopos tried to contact as many Discordians as we could find for this bizarre masquerade bash. And when the party started, they came in droves. They spoke in Russian. There were mittens in every discussion. <br />
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Weird people in their anybody suits.<br />
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[insert the beach etc.discordia ad]<br />
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Now there's a lot of Discordians out there on the web, and they're not organized really well, so</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Layout&diff=411Layout2008-08-26T01:25:28Z<p>69.119.239.223: </p>
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<div>== [http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/net/etc_pg1-70_v4.1.pdf 1st Draft of Etc. Discordia] ==<br />
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Let me know what you think of the image quality if you print it out. Also note the printer model, or at least the kind of printer it is — copier, laser, inkjet...<br />
: I'll make a printout of it tomorrow at university, i'll let you know about the model.[[User:000|000]] 07:24, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Anything I'm missing? <br />
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000, I tried incorporating the ampersand element, but it didn't look right... If you could supply a sketch or a detailed description as to how you were imagining it, then I'll play with it some more. Have you been able to find a CS version of InDesign yet?<br />
: I'll get it ASAP (that is, before thursday evening Amsterdam time, which is the first moment i'll have real time to play with this). my basic idea was just to take the ampersand glyph, make it light grey and place it behind the "Et" in the title. maybe make it real large or something, even half falling off the page. i dunno. i'll play with it.[[User:000|000]] 07:24, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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I left out a few images that just didn't translate to black and white, but if you're particularly attached to one that's not there, I can give it another whirl.<br />
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Also, I haven't incorporated the quotes to be sprinkled throughout, and have been scheming a much busier layout that I'll show you in a few days.<br />
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=== Feedback from 000===<br />
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# IT LOOKS AWESOME SLICK AS HELL (the frontpage) [[User:000|000]] 09:29, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
# Isn't the front page supposed to be in colour? [[User:000|000]] 09:29, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
# you forgot the subtitle, "Et Cetera Discordia -- The Party at Limbo Peak". i was thinking, maybe just below the image ... except that ... the crossroads landscape is flat as a pancake LOL :) so that may not make a lot of sense hehehe. or does it perhaps make just enough nonsense to be funny? [[User:000|000]] 09:29, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
# Actually, seeing this take form and the general style (the slanted round boxes really give me a sort of 50s feel about it, kind of fitting to the "Bob" imagery) kind of make me want to redo the drawing for the front image, i could also place the crossroads on top of a hill/mountain of course (which wouldnt make sense from a logistic point of view, but does as a metaphor) [[User:000|000]] 09:29, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
# I like the idea about including a teaser to entice latent-discordians to pick up and open the book. It should perhaps contain some specific keywords in the teaser. I know, in my pre-discordian days, I'd have opened any book mentioning "Chaos" on the cover, for instance. Maybe it should also mention that it's a collection of short writings? Because, knowing that it's not a long story, but a collection of short bits, would also make it more likely for me to randomly open te book and browse it a bit. [[User:000|000]] 09:29, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
# page 12: the BIP card. if it's a card suggesting it might be cut out, maybe not in the slanted rounded box? (even though i really, really like those boxes, so might as well keep it). Further, I think the text [dunno if you made it?] ''but your life experience, your 'cell,' can be altered drastically'' is a littlebit creepy/recruiting sounding, like an "improve your life!" ad. either go that way and make it really over the top or tone it down. a bit. How about ''but your life experience, your 'cell,' might be larger than you think'' or ''but your life experience, your 'cell,' can be upgraded with an interstellar spaceport and hi-tech robot sex slaves''. [[User:000|000]] 09:29, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
# ok, judging from the overall look of the book, i repeat, i love the slanted rounded boxes, but if it's going to be just like this, it's nice and consistent and the weird images can carry the weirdness of the book, but i think it needs at least one more stylistic element to make it interesting. it's kind of overall the same right now. these elements would probably be: Zarathud and short bits/memebombs/marginalia. The marginalia will work nicely, but I'm not entirely sure as of how to fit Zarathud into this clean layout? [[User:000|000]] 09:29, 16 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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=== Net 7/17 re: 000 ===<br />
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# THANKS. :D<br />
# I don't know. I can work on a color version, but if someone else makes a cooler one, we could use that instead.<br />
# Maybe you could work in a tubes and truck joke? Subtitle absence has been noted.<br />
# Thanks. I encourage you to print it out for the full effect. Also, I'd be interested in seeing you develop the cover illustration. <br />
# Looks like Cram has addressed this below... Yeah, people like to know what frame of mind to get in when approaching reading materials. <br />
# Yes, I'll try a different frame style, maybe one with scissors and dotted lines. Good call. I didn't make it. We also don't need to include it, editorial discretion, etc, etc.<br />
# I was thinking that if we do end up peppering the book with Zarathud vandalism, that the sketchy style he's drawn in, and the fact that he's messing things up would juxtapose well against a clean, consistent layout. I was thinking of adding some other graphic elements that would help reference the internet and create interest. [[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 23:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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=== Feedback from Cramulus ===<br />
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some of my notes are specifically design/layout, but some are editorial. (I'll take care of those)<br />
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# '''First off''', you're to be commended for the awesome job. It's really exciting to see this project come to life like this. It looks more tangible now than I had previously imagined. I hope you've been enjoying making this stuff as much as I have.<br />
# '''Overall art style:''' When I saw it on my screen, I didn't quite get it. Now that I'm looking at a printout, it makes perfect sense. The slanted rounded boxes look (to me) like TV screens. This fits with our discussion about having the overall style be a sort of collage - reminiscent of the old PD in that it juxtaposes varying bits of media, but wiht a more modern feel. It reminds me of channel surfing late at night and seeing all this weird stuff. Perfect with the theme of the Strange Times.<br />
# '''Fonts:''' I like the fonts. It may be due to low print quality, but in the copy in my hands they seem a bit thin. Could use a slightly bloder font. Overall however, it's very inviting and easy to read. <br />
# '''Page Size''' - is this okay for lulu.com? I suspect that the two-pages per page layout we have going right now will confuse our printer.<br />
# '''Cover:''' Add subtitle: "The Party at Limbo Peak". The "abstract" at the bottom below the byline, here are some suggestions:—"Explorations of chaos, stupidity, and infinity"—"New iterations of the Discordian fractal"—"Writings from the Discordian Cyberspace Masquerade"<br />
#'''Inside:''' Leave room for a copyright page. Syn has generated a few more cover pages, one of which I think would fit well as an inner title page. (the Principia has a few, right?) Insert some room for a Kopyleft page (text to come), and an introduction page (text to come)<br />
#'''Page 6:''' change to this image: http://www.mcs.csuhayward.edu/~malek/Surrealism/magritte2.jpg<br />
#'''Page 9:''' Perfect placement for the "bob" & Hardy picture.<br />
#'''Page 11:''' Introduction to the BIP... this seems very out of context as a second piece. I think the Bare Minimum BIP piece might actually serve as a better intro to the BIP, since the names and sequence of invention are kind of extraneous to the actual idea. Could we replace this piece with something lighter? Maybe the "TAZ has ugly, retarded cousin"? it's a ''little'' lighter :-P<br />
#'''Page 13:''' Expland first occurances of BIP to "Black Iron Prison". Expand SSOOKN to "Super Secret Order Of Kabbalistic Navigators". <br />
#'''Page 19:''' Replace references to America with something more vague. We're talking about Western Civilization.<br />
#'''Page 21:''' We've got too much vexati0n / war / america stuff packed right at the beginning. If we ditch this piece, I wouldn't shed a tear. I'm in love with the graphic on page 23 though.<br />
#'''Choose Your Own Adventure covers''': need to photoshop out the author / illustrator names. Add in names of Discordian saints.<br />
# '''Page 37''' Delete Bird Jams. Replace with the piece [http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Dream_Jam Dream Jams].<br />
#'''Page 43''' Reminder to self: pick out original posters from POSTERGASM and make into graphics like this one.<br />
#'''Page 53''' Change title to "Divine Madness"<br />
#'''Page 61''' Change title to "Once Upon a Pickle Pickle..."<br />
#'''Page 66''' Remove piece - it's now a part of "Dream Jam".<br />
#'''Also:''' The Parable of Steve is in there twice. <br />
Wow, 66 pages and we've still got a lot of material to go.<br />
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=== Net 7/17 re: Cram ===<br />
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# Thanks dude. I couldn't have done it without all the work you guys already put into it. And yes, I have been getting a kick out of it.<br />
# Huzzah! <br />
# Please to note your printer model or kind of printer (laser or inkjet).<br />
# I can export the file to PDF in a number of ways, such as "printer's spreads" where it's all interpolated for double sided printing. What you're looking at is a "reader spread."<br />
# Check. How about "Short Writings and Art from the Discordian Cyberspace Masquerade"<br />
# No problem. We probably should coordinate fonts when this gets a little more fleshed out.<br />
# Ok.<br />
# :D<br />
# I think you're right. Smaller, lighter pieces first, longer pieces in the middle. <br />
# Check.<br />
# Check. '''CORRECTION! THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE DUE TO THIS LINE:''' "While we herald the bravery of our men and women in uniform at the many fronts in the War on Terror, we have effectively given our President and the Congress a blank check to spend from our reserves of domestic freedom at their discretion." <br />
::* Try "we have effectively given our Leaders a blank check..." - I mean, they a war on terror in the UK too, right? I'm not actually sure how they refer to this debacle. Eh, one or two American references aren't bad. As long as we don't go overboard I don't think it'll be a problem. [[User:Cramulus|Cramulus]] 13:09, 19 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::* Yes, switch "President" for "Leaders" and it's fine, we got enough "War on Terror" going on in Europe as well, even if it's not called "War on Terror" explicitly.<br />
# Yes. I'll ditch "Support the Troops" for now and reshuffle the image associated with it.<br />
# Ok. Suggestions, pls?<br />
# Check.<br />
# ?<br />
# Check.<br />
# Check.<br />
# Check.<br />
# Lol, good catch. [[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 23:13, 17 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== [http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/net/etc_pg1-76_v4.6.pdf 2nd Draft of Etc. Discordia] ==<br />
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I think we're coming into the home stretch ... <br />
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Page 19 needs some love. I still haven't worked in all the quotes we have planned and of course there is the title page, table of contents (and the bottom-of-the-page indexing), kopyleft and copyright page, intro, and adding some Discordian Saint names to the Choose UR pwn Adventures, but besides those I think it's almost there. <br />
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I have made changes in accordance to the critiques except as noted above. If you compare the text typeface weight, you'll notice it's a tiny bit thicker on this version, as per Cram's suggestion.<br />
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No issue is to minute to address at this stage, so if even the smallest thing is bugging you, please get it out into the open ASAP.<br />
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I love the FNORD HODGE and PODGE dingbats Syn and other's created. I'm going to massage at least one tube of it into the coarse hairs of the Etc. Discordia's white space. <br />
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Are we still all on board for Zarathud shenanigans? All I need is about a dozen ideas and I can start working them in. Note to self: (and anyone who procures InDesign CS in the near future) 1. Copy text. 2. Paste in new text box. 3. Create outlines 4. Change text body element to paper color. 5. Manipulate outlined text for profit !!!! [[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 04:28, 20 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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=== Cram's Notes 7/22 ===<br />
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# Okay, '''Overall''' - looking good, still happy with all of this. <br />
# Bold text still seems difficult to distinguish from regular text. This doesn't come up often, but see the Pickle Pickle Parable.<br />
# There are a number of pieces which still aren't included. They include:<br />
:* Hearts & Minds<br />
:* the Shrapnel Theme stuff (recently updated by RWHN)<br />
:* Liber Fru Fru (let's just grab the internet bit which has been retyped)<br />
:* OMGASM description<br />
:* Stupid Content<br />
:* Finished Cutups (other than Dream Jam)<br />
:* Zen Koans<br />
:* Myspace Monkeys<br />
:* A lot of the Marginalia<br />
::Could you make more of the marginalia look handwritten, or set at an odd angle? I'd love to see it look like it had been scribbled on, sort of like the PD. So far most of the marginalia has been set upside down, which is fine, but MOAR! Don't be afraid to break some style rules with the marginalia, it should look cutup, collage, out of place, extraneous. Like some kid got ahold of the book and wrote notes in the margins before it got sent to the printer.<br />
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'''Specific page commentary'''<br />
# '''Front Cover''': 000's piece is really colorful. I also think (and I may be wrong here), that we can get a color cover on this thing. If so, we should really blow up that image. And being the cover, let's ditch the computerized vertical-line effect thing on it.<br />
# '''TOC''': Magritte painting should accompany The Strange Times, not hte TOC. The TOC text needs to be updated into an actual Table of Contents. Instead of the Magritte, let's put in one of the ads for the party, in the propaganda thread. Or even better: that sexy image that 000 shopped up which was the forum header image. (you know, the Mount Olympus Water Park one)<br />
# '''Page 3''' Needs byline "by Professor Cramulus"<br />
# '''Page 5''' What happened to the laurel & hardy "bob" pic?<br />
# '''Page 6''' I love the font for the CHAOS section. Can we get some more of the marginalia in that font? Looks like a typewriter.<br />
# '''Page 11''' I think we should ditch this piece. It's too bad, but it's not really relevant. I talked to RWHN about it, and he's cool with it.<br />
# '''Page 14''' Good pairing of image with text. This spread (p14-15) needs some text though, would be a good place for a koan or some more marginalia.<br />
# '''Page 16''' Being the first Cutup/Zarathud piece, we need some serious zarathud here. I wonder if there's a way to graphically demonstrate that he's taken two pieces and cut them up? 000?<br />
# '''Page 19''' Switch the image here (whatever it ends up being) with the image on page 16. I'll dig around some more for some wacky MS Paint collage<br />
# '''Page 20''' Either the quote or the credit should be in ital. Not sure which matches our style better.<br />
# '''Page 22''' Good pairing of image and text<br />
# '''Page 23''' Needs a pic of Enrico. Try this one: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/porlstephenson/News/Gaddafi_Tikaram.jpg or this one: http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/CARI.Gaddafi.gif<br />
# '''Page 24-25''' This spread has very little text on it. Needs more marginalia, koan, whatever<br />
# '''Page 31''' needs attribution "By Professor Cramulus". Also: I've decided this piece works better with "O:MF" written as "Mindfuck". So it should be "Go Mindfuck Yourself" at the beginning and in the ending bit.<br />
# '''Page 39''' needs attribution "By Professor Cramulus"<br />
# '''Page 43''' ...It might be cute to draw a correlary between the Etc. Discordia and the PD. Being that this is the only game in the whole book, (which I find odd, personally) this might be a good place to do it. http://principiadiscordia.com/book/images/Sink.gif - that image is from the PD's game SINK... maybe add it here?<br />
# '''Page 45''' The weird text in the Channeled Messages "Y'H-SH'RP-E-DU-DUDU-DEDA-DADA" might work better in a different font.<br />
# '''Page 45''' Change the noodle party bumper sticker to this one: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Marburger/Fred08knifefight.jpg ... these ones might also work elsewhere: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Marburger/fred08craps.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Marburger/Fred08pizzadelivery.jpg <br />
# '''Page 63''' missing some italics. Should read "I do it for '''me'''. You're doing it ''like'' me." Also, the last line "Think For Yourself, Shmuck!" should be in italics.<br />
# '''Page 64-65''' Spread needs more images<br />
# '''Page 66''' Change "O:MF" to "Mindfuck"<br />
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'''Zarathud Ideas'''<br />
Here's some ideas for what Zarathud is doing as he makes his way through the book. Zarathud...<br />
# Kicks a line, moving it out of alignment<br />
# stands on a line, making it bow or sag in the middle<br />
# has a rope or chain attached to a line, and is dragging it over his shoulder, pulling the paragraph into the margin<br />
# has put tape over a word or two and has written in FNORD. Zarathud stands nearby, holding tape and a pen, admiring his work.<br />
# is surfing on some marginalia<br />
# is driving a crane, and has lifted a phrase right out of the text. The phrase is dangling at the end of the chain, above the paragraph.<br />
# tears out a little part of a page and puts it on the opposite spread. (maybe you can see the page behind it through the "hole"<br />
# has wrinkled up a page. Zarathud looks frustrated and stands at the footer with a lot of crumpled paper around him<br />
# crosses out a byline and writes in "BY ZARATHUD" in childlike lettering<br />
# has a firehat and firehose. The edges of the page appear to be badly burned.<br />
# is rubbing his belly as if he's full. There's a big bite mark missing from the corner of the page.<br />
# page 34-35 has several pictures of screaming people. Zarathud maybe should be holding his hands on his ears, as if he can actually hear the images screaming.<br />
# somewhere I'd really love to see Zarathud putting up a poster on a tree. The pic on the posters is one of 000's nonsensical little doodles, or a portrait of Zarathud or something.<br />
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=== Net - re: Cram's Notes 7/22 ===<br />
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Just a quick comment to say thanks for the excellent feedback, this very specific stuff is immensely helpful. I don't see anything I disagree with and will start making these changes today.<br />
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The one thing that may be an issue in technical terms is violating the margins on any of the pages besides the cover. This would prevent people from printing out the booklet by themselves since few printers can print very close to the edge of the paper. While this would be no problem for a commercial printer (who would most likely be cutting the pages from larger sheets) it would impinge on the DIY aspect. I like the ideas, and it seems like most of the ones in question can be adapted to fit within the margins.<br />
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— Net [[Special:Contributions/76.115.0.95|76.115.0.95]] 19:52, 22 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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=== Moar Cram Thoughts ===<br />
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We talked about putting the Saint's names on the Choose Your Own Adventure covers. The names are:<br />
# Chaos - Patron Apostle Hung Mung <br />
# Discord - Patron Apostle Dr. Van Van Mojo <br />
# Confusion - Patron Apostle Sri Syadasti <br />
# Bureaucracy - Patron Apostle Zarathud <br />
# The Aftermath - Patron Apostle The Elder Malaclypse<br />
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'''Second:''' I realized that the correct name for day of the week is Prickle-Prickle, not Pickle-Pickle. Please update title. Mybad!<br />
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'''Third''' Let's use the Official Discordian Document Numbering system, like the PD uses. So the page numbers would be listed in five-digit format "00001, 00002, 00003," etc<br />
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'''Fourth''' I wonder if we can set the BIP card like this page is set: http://principiadiscordia.com/book/45.php ?<br />
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'''Fifth''' Other images from the PD which I like - use these if we run out of marginalia art<br />
* http://principiadiscordia.com/book/images/ImmanentizeEschaton.gif<br />
* http://principiadiscordia.com/book/images/5Pentagon.gif<br />
* http://principiadiscordia.com/book/images/Squiggly.gif<br />
* http://principiadiscordia.com/book/images/BavarianIlluminati.gif<br />
* http://principiadiscordia.com/book/images/Tai.gif - this one should go on "Go Mindfuck Yourself"<br />
* http://principiadiscordia.com/book/images/KallistiApple.gif<br />
* http://principiadiscordia.com/book/images/AntiAristotelian.gif<br />
* http://pics.livejournal.com/drjon/pic/0005qpzg - not from the PD, but it's sweet<br />
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=== Net - re: Moar Cram ===<br />
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Duly noted. Those images will definitely come in handy to break up the writings I overlooked. I also have a little bit of art I could add in there ...<br />
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I could use some clarification on the fourth point. Do you want me to make a new BIP card with a looser structure? Or something more nefarious?<br />
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I need to go make some dough tomorrow and Thursday so the soonest I can make another draft will probably be Friday night.<br />
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—Net [[Special:Contributions/76.115.0.95|76.115.0.95]] 02:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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=== Cram sez ===<br />
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'''On the fourth point:''' I'm not sure, I was brainstorming. Talking about working the BIP card into a larger art piece... but I supsect that's more trouble than it's worth, and it may actually discourage people from cutting the damn thing out.<br />
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'''On art:''' I'm starting a collection of other art: [[Misc Art]] I'd say this stuff trumps the PD art. We have this "masquerade" theme which was very present at the party, but not present in the book - so spreading out some of the mask avatars into various places would be nice. Maybe even like as an author headshot, like they sometimes do in news or magazine articles.<br />
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I'm going to try my hand at making some more collage, too. I'll try to work in B&W. And if I can will myself to do it, I might write an intro today. More notes to come.<br />
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=== Net - re: Cram sez ===<br />
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Yeah, it would be nice to at least throw in a few masks as an afterthought than have none in there at all. [[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 07:24, 16 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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=== 000's very late response ===<br />
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Yo dudes, sorry I'm checking in so late, as I was on vacation.<br />
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# '''front cover''' : personally, i kind of lean towards the subtitle ''"Explorations of chaos, stupidity, and infinity"'', which may be more seducing to a non-discordian audience to open the book than the Discordian Fractal one, even though that one ''is'' a pretty good line as well.<br />
# I want to do a new version of the cover pic, one that's actually on top of a peak. Also not entirely happy with the relative lack of detail/finesse in the masked partygoers compared to the rest of the pic. I say that I ''want'', but my current todo-list is longer than ever, and filled with slightly more important RL tasks than this, but I'm going to try. I agree with doing it in colour.<br />
# I also still owe you guys a mockup/sketch/concept of the ampersand/ligature idea for the big title, which could be made a littlebit more interesting (but not too much, as not to make the cover too busy)<br />
# Sexy forum header image: I have a much higher resolution version of the shopped pic on my harddisk, it was scaled down for the forum header. Will upload.<br />
# '''TOC''' : This is going to be made to look a bit better than an asterisked list of titles, I presume? Suggest putting the authors in a lighter font-weight than the titles themselves, perhaps a discordian bullet-point thingy from the Fnord TTF font?<br />
# Can we put a picture that's actually funny and not LOLCATish (which I promise, will be old and stale within a year even if it the last act of memetic warfare I will ever participate in, so help me Goddess) instead of the "so sleepy from all the farting" one? I can rummage through my files, I think I made a selection of funny pics with Paul a couple of weeks ago, partly saved PD stuff and generic WOMPesque/shopped material I forgot to upload to the vault.<br />
# Generic typesetting remark: From looking at the first piece (Strange Times) and all the others, my eyes being a bit tired just gotten back from holiday, the text looks ever so slightly cramped, is there any possibility we can increase the '''word'''-spacing just a tiny littlebit?<br />
# '''Page 11''' : Dunno if there's any trick you can do about it, but having the title on two lines looks a bit odd, here. Unless we ditch the piece, as Cram suggested.<br />
# '''Page 18 CYOA''' : Love this one. Any possibility of perhaps shopping in Hairacles's avatar into the cover pic? It might fit.<br />
# '''Page 21''' : Love the image inset, and the particular image.<br />
# '''Page 22''' : What is that pic? Did a discordian draw it? Style comes off as somewhat familiar...<br />
# '''Page 23''' : Agree about the pic of Enrico. I'd go for the first, shiny dictator instead of the caricature. Another good idea might be to ask Hoopla if he still got one lying around.<br />
# '''Page 23''': Yes. It's important we get some of that Russian there, great way to remember that crazy trollish pre-party chaos!<br />
# '''Page 27''': Can it get a subtitle like "How the BIP got to be" or "History of the birth of the BIP" or ''"So this bunch of monkeys walk into a black iron bar ... the Discordian ducks."''<br />
# '''Page 66''': LOVE IT!! (but agree on s/O:MF/Mindfuck)<br />
# what's up with the dudes with condoms over their eyes btw?<br />
# good Zarathud ideas, will try to draw.<br />
# DIY aspect: will people really print this off for themselves? i would guess they'd either buy the book from Lulu or read the PDF from screen? otherwise might it be possible to make a "light" version for home printing? Just a few quick hacks to make it work?<br />
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=== Net - re: 000's very late spaggotry ===<br />
''My responses in italics.''<br />
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1. front cover : personally, i kind of lean towards the subtitle "Explorations of chaos, stupidity, and infinity", which may be more seducing to a non-discordian audience to open the book than the Discordian Fractal one, even though that one is a pretty good line as well.'''Ok. I tend to agree, it's a more descriptive while the discordian fractal is more of a fun idea but doesn't tell you very much about the book.<br />
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2. I want to do a new version of the cover pic, one that's actually on top of a peak. Also not entirely happy with the relative lack of detail/finesse in the masked partygoers compared to the rest of the pic. I say that I want, but my current todo-list is longer than ever, and filled with slightly more important RL tasks than this, but I'm going to try. I agree with doing it in colour.<br />
''Next version will be in color.'' <br />
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3. I also still owe you guys a mockup/sketch/concept of the ampersand/ligature idea for the big title, which could be made a littlebit more interesting (but not too much, as not to make the cover too busy)<br />
''I think it may be too obscure a reference. Most people don't even "see" the ampersand and just think "and." The reason I think it works on Syn's cover designs (00004 and 00005) is because all of the other stuff on the cover is totally unnecessary and fun, so why not throw in an unnecessary ampersand? That said, I worked into my cover design, which by the way, is more of a placeholder until something better comes along.''<br />
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4. Sexy forum header image: I have a much higher resolution version of the shopped pic on my harddisk, it was scaled down for the forum header. Will upload.<br />
''To be used where?''<br />
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5. TOC : This is going to be made to look a bit better than an asterisked list of titles, I presume? Suggest putting the authors in a lighter font-weight than the titles themselves, perhaps a discordian bullet-point thingy from the Fnord TTF font?<br />
''Yes, it hasn't been formatted because I don't know how much space I can get away with, since I don't have a final version of the TOC to play around with. Once we have a more finalized version I'll start working it over.''<br />
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6. Can we put a picture that's actually funny and not LOLCATish (which I promise, will be old and stale within a year even if it the last act of memetic warfare I will ever participate in, so help me Goddess) instead of the "so sleepy from all the farting" one? I can rummage through my files, I think I made a selection of funny pics with Paul a couple of weeks ago, partly saved PD stuff and generic WOMPesque/shopped material I forgot to upload to the vault.<br />
''Yes. It should be the WOMPiest of the WOMP. When you find the one post it somewhere with the keyword "WOMPiest".''<br />
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7. Generic typesetting remark: From looking at the first piece (Strange Times) and all the others, my eyes being a bit tired just gotten back from holiday, the text looks ever so slightly cramped, is there any possibility we can increase the word-spacing just a tiny littlebit?<br />
''You have to print this stuff out to get an accurate sense of it. Otherwise you can waste a lot of time reshuffling things that turned out to be a total non-issue once things were printed. I'm going to bring this to two of the most experienced and anal people I know about typography and see what they say. I think the wordspacing was fine but I changed it to Garamond since Syn also has a problem with the body text. This ought to resolve any lingering issues with it, except now it's a bit more common rather than being unusual.'' <br />
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8. Page 11 : Dunno if there's any trick you can do about it, but having the title on two lines looks a bit odd, here. Unless we ditch the piece, as Cram suggested.<br />
''I disagree—it's a common occurrence in collections/varying content publications. But I suppose it's a moot point if we do give it the boot.''<br />
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9. Page 18 CYOA : Love this one. Any possibility of perhaps shopping in Hairacles's avatar into the cover pic? It might fit.<br />
''Sounds like something you could easily take care of. Here's a link to the original file:'' [http://mihd.net/0nufpe5]<br />
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10. Page 21 : Love the image inset, and the particular image.<br />
'':D''<br />
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11. Page 22 : What is that pic? Did a discordian draw it? Style comes off as somewhat familiar...<br />
''If you want to know who specifically did it, please to familiarize yourself with the list of submissions.''<br />
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12. Page 23 : Agree about the pic of Enrico. I'd go for the first, shiny dictator instead of the caricature. Another good idea might be to ask Hoopla if he still got one lying around.<br />
''Hoopla can go fuck himself. If you want to talk to him about it go ahead. I'll add it if you procure it, but I'm having nothing directly to do with him.''<br />
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13. Page 23: Yes. It's important we get some of that Russian there, great way to remember that crazy trollish pre-party chaos!<br />
''I came late. :(''<br />
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14. Page 27: Can it get a subtitle like "How the BIP got to be" or "History of the birth of the BIP" or "So this bunch of monkeys walk into a black iron bar ... the Discordian ducks."<br />
''You have to talk to RWHN if you want to start adding stuff to his writing.''<br />
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15. Page 66: LOVE IT!! (but agree on s/O:MF/Mindfuck)<br />
''I'm also playing around with some wacky typefaces, see.''<br />
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16. what's up with the dudes with condoms over their eyes btw?<br />
''Is amusing. I was amused and will continue to be amused in the future.''<br />
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17. good Zarathud ideas, will try to draw.<br />
''More hands = lighter work''.<br />
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18. DIY aspect: will people really print this off for themselves? i would guess they'd either buy the book from Lulu or read the PDF from screen? otherwise might it be possible to make a "light" version for home printing? Just a few quick hacks to make it work? <br />
''I don't think any hacks are necessary. Indesign will automatically reshuffle the pages for printing and that same PDF file can just be downloaded by people for assembling.'' [[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 07:35, 16 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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=== Feedback from Syn ===<br />
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Net, this book is looking really, REALLY good! Well done!<br />
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My observations:<br />
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==== Text ====<br />
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I agree with Cram, the font is really nice, but looks a little light for Lulu book printing (this lesson comes to you courtesy of Syn's wasted $25 - doh!). Can you use a heavier variety of the same font, or test out a different main body font all together. Possibly keep the titles and headings in this font and just change the body? - Just a thought.<br />
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==== Images ====<br />
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I love the slanted/skewed boxes, but am not sure that degrading the image quality with the vertical stripe is a good idea, it may look to some like a shoddy layout/printing job. It comes out pretty weird on my printer (Konica-Minolta Magicolor 2550DN). Some images are fine, others have moir patterns and others have vertical interference lines. If we want people to print at home, should it not be as clear as possible? From experience a good, but not over exposed level of contrast is good for image printing with Lulu. There area number of images in the SynGen books that didn't come out too well; I felt it was because they were lacking in clarity and contrast originally.<br />
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Also, I never did get the condoms-over-eyes images, but the make me snort out loud every time I see them, so I suppose they are effective in some way. :)<br />
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=== Net - re: Syn Feedback ===<br />
''My responses in italics.''<br />
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Net, this book is looking really, REALLY good! Well done!<br />
''Thanks dude. That means a lot coming from you.''<br />
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I agree with Cram, the font is really nice, but looks a little light for Lulu book printing (this lesson comes to you courtesy of Syn's wasted $25 - doh!). Can you use a heavier variety of the same font, or test out a different main body font all together. Possibly keep the titles and headings in this font and just change the body? - Just a thought.<br />
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''As I mentioned to 000 and as you'll see in the next draft, I used Garamond (Premier Pro (:fap:)) so we'll guarantee perfect printing. I also have a raging hard on for th at incarnation of Garamond and it plays off the headers better. In case you'd like to know, the headers for this latest version are Fertigo and it's a free font. The section/page number font is Telegram HPLHS, and the ransom clipping font is Anonymous Clippings, all available for free.'' <br />
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I love the slanted/skewed boxes, but am not sure that degrading the image quality with the vertical stripe is a good idea, it may look to some like a shoddy layout/printing job. It comes out pretty weird on my printer (Konica-Minolta Magicolor 2550DN). Some images are fine, others have moir patterns and others have vertical interference lines. If we want people to print at home, should it not be as clear as possible? From experience a good, but not over exposed level of contrast is good for image printing with Lulu. There area number of images in the SynGen books that didn't come out too well; I felt it was because they were lacking in clarity and contrast originally.<br />
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''Please let me know which images have interference lines and moire patterns.'' <br />
''I processed the images like that for a few reasons:'' ''One - It helps unify them across the book which the rounded/skewed boxes can't do on their own IMO, Two - It's more obvious to the eye than the plethora of JPEG artifacts present in the images, but you know you're supposed to look "through" the vertical halftone screen even when they're very coarse. Three - So by degrading the image quality a bit more it should appear intentional and paradoxically become less apparent, if that makes any sense. I'm also going to show this to some teachers at my school and see what they think and how they have dealt with low res images that needed to be printed. I'm still open to suggestions as well. I think they need to be processed in some way so it looks intentional and are unified throughout the book. As it is now, the resolution varies from proper to way subpar. The inconsistency seems more distracting than the halftone element, IMO. That said, I'll kill my baby and just use the box element for the fourth draft.'' <br />
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Also, I never did get the condoms-over-eyes images, but the make me snort out loud every time I see them, so I suppose they are effective in some way. :) <br />
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''Right?'' [[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 08:12, 16 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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=== Briefly from Cram ===<br />
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Net, if you have room, can you please add this? It's my favorite piece of poetry ever posted on PD. http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=14545.msg461884#msg461884<br />
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The condoms over eyes thing was just a silly WOMP - there's no backstory or in-joke. I think it might have been a pun on the word "cockeyed".<br />
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I agree with Syn about the vertical distortion on the skewed boxes. <br />
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Hey Syn, do you know if we can get the cover printed in color? Or is that only for hardcover? I haven't really looked into this.<br />
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=== Syn replying to Cram ===<br />
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Hey Cram. Yeah, you can have the cover in full colour on any type of book. Did you find our what font the 3rd ampersand came from?<br />
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NM, I just vecced it. [http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Possible/impossible_Covers See the new cover proposals]. ;)<br />
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=== Net - re: Briefly from Cram ===<br />
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I'll make sure the poetry is in the fourth draft. Also, I haven't yet changed the names on the CYOA images, so if somebody could do that and upload the files I'd appreciate it. [[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 08:13, 16 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== [http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/net/etc_pg1-77_v5.1.pdf 3rd Draft of Et Cetera Discordia] ==<br />
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Hey, Syn, could you link to a high res version of cover #00005? I like that one the best. Maybe it could use a little more integration with the direction I've been going but, definitely dig that one. Bleeds would be good too as well as a back cover. And, if you could give me the names of the fonts you're working with and whatnot, I may be able to integrate them with the rest of the book. <br />
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[[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 09:04, 16 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Hi, Net.<br />
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I'm still not sure I agree about patterning the images, especially those that are meant to be copied and redistributed, although, having said that I do understand that digital artefacts are a serious printing issue, but - ''he says, pulling out a copy of Metaclysmia Discordia'' - it would seem that jpg artefacts are not a major concern for the printing process. I know a lot of those images were really crap quality, but the jpg artefacts just do not show.<br />
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As an aside, it may be worth setting up a Photobucket account for the book and mentioning in the book that there are higher quality versions available online at hxxp://www.wherever.com/etcdiscordia. Hell we could even put together an ''Et Cetera Discordia Propaganda Pack'' with all the good stuff and host that somewhere relatively permanent (''POEE?'' ;)).<br />
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Fonts Used in the cover are:<br />
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*Century Gothic - Book Titles/'Provisionally Approved...' stamp upper left<br />
*4990810 - 'DO NOT STAMP' stamp bottom right<br />
*Times New Roman (width reduced by 10%) - 'DS' in 'DS ARCHIVES'/'YOLD 3174' stamp upper middle<br />
*Times New Roman - '(Provisional)' under title<br />
*Typewriter-Regular - Discordian Services (Not a perfect match for the rest of the test so have replaced the whole thing in the latest posted version #6) bottom middle<br />
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The rest are part of the original ''SIMPLE SABOTAGE FIELD MANUAL Strategic Services (Provisional)'' cover, or pasted images.<br />
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The background layer - Mostly the original cover - was full of artefacts that were rendered sufficiently clean for printing with a few Photoshop filters. I have a printed copy of the '''SIMPLE SABOTAGE FIELD MANUAL''' printed by Lulu with that cleaned cover in front of me that attests to this, so please don't worry about remaining artefacts in the Et Cetera Discordia image. You won't see them in the print.<br />
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HTH!<br />
[[User:Synaptyx|Rev. St. Syn, KSC]] 11:30, 16 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Latest Cover: [http://rapidshare.com/files/137720693/Et_Cetera_Discordia__6.png.html Version 6 (png) FULL RES] Can you give me a cover size with bleeds and a res? - Just saw the size on the covers page. Net, are you aware that isn't a size that Lulu print? http://www.lulu.com/us/help/paperback_printspecs The closest appears to be: A5 14.817 x 20.99 cm or 5.833 x 8.264"<br />
--[[User:Synaptyx|Rev. St. Syn, KSC]] 18:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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I wish you were involved earlier, lol. <br />
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I've already said I'll swap out the vertically screened images for mere grayscales for the fourth version. It's time consuming but easy enough. I'm probably too close to the idea to see how my logic fails, but I trust your judgment as well as Cram's so, it will be changed. I assure you. What do you think about thickening up the rounded/skewed frames to about a 2 pt black line? Comments on the Garamond/Fertigo/Telegram combination? Can you dig the dingbat/clip art treatments?<br />
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Also, it's not too difficult to create another file where the document size is say, 6 x 9 inches (which is a lulu proportion) as well as an A5 version so people can download it and print it on their own. Good catch, but I've adapted publications to new page sizes and it's not my favorite thing to do in the world, but it can be done in a fairly short span of time. I'm going to keep working within the folded US letter size until everything is gleaming with doneness whereupon I'll transfer it to the lulu and A5 (finished, A4 flat) proportions. So if you could make the cover fit all of the above it would be most awesome, double awesome if you do the entire wrap around cover.<br />
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Thanks for all the details and prompt feedback. Highly appreciated.<br />
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[[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 19:06, 16 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Net, the fonts are very nice. I'll bow to your superior font-knowledge. It looks so frikkin' pro right now. I have to say the dings really set it off, the moar the bettar as far as I'm concerned (but not too much ;))! I think thickening up the frames is probably a good idea.<br />
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I'm happy to do a full wraparound, glad you liked the cover! :D Are you guys sold on the colour? I left it the same blue as the original file. I have begun editing the next version of the cover. I'm working on removing the old page background, leaving the original stamps/printing/scribbles/notes, etc to make re-sizing easier.<br />
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So, A4 wrap, Letter Wrap and whatever lulu size is decided upon... I'll do a front and a back with a separate spine, once we get to the lulu stage, then combine it when needed.<br />
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--[[User:Synaptyx|Rev. St. Syn, KSC]] 19:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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=== A few questions for Cram/000: ===<br />
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*Do we have a back cover blurb?<br />
*Is this going to be published through Lulu with an ISBN?<br />
*Have I asked those questions before?<br />
*Which Lulu format/size are we going for?<br />
--[[User:Synaptyx|Rev. St. Syn, KSC]] 19:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== [http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/net/etc_pg1-80_v6.2.pdf 4th Draft of Et Cetera Discordia] ==<br />
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'''Please be patient with the download, I went nuts with dingbats so the file is exceptionally GYNORMOUS.''' I could have compressed the file size, but this way, you can proof any page you need to and it will be full quality. I will manually reduce excessive dingbats when we start finalizing the book, so bear with me. If the download is too excessive for your connection/computer I can post a lower quality version, just let me know.<br />
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I'm glad you dig the typography Syn, which again means a LOT coming from you. (Still impressed by everything graphic design I've seen you do.) Also testing the idea of more dingbats being better - I like the texture.<br />
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Still haven't replaced names for Choose Your Own Adventure pieces, Table of Contents will need to be formatted and Wompiest of the Womp/Intro image needs to be placed. Also, Enrico pic, Miscellaneous Comments, Copyright page, Kopyleft page, Intro piece, Title page and back cover needs to be completed. I also have not thickened up the frames. I could be missing something here, so put your editor cap on.<br />
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Besides those things, let me know what you think. I tried to appropriate Syn's cover style via deconstruction through symbolism. All vertical halftones have been replaced with grayscale and I've started smoking fucking cigarettes again, fuck! I'm dating an extremely hot girl who's into psychology like me but still have feelings for my ex-wife, advice needed. Also, I need to learn how to dance, she's big on dancing.<br />
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Also, you guys are incredible, thanks for having me on board for this thing. We still have a ways to go, but I've been drinking and feeling appreciative see.<br />
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[[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 08:46, 17 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== [http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/net/etc_pg1-80_v6.5.pdf 5th Draft of Et Cetera Discordia] ==<br />
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Still a monstrosity of a file and I presumptuously added Syn's cover I tweaked. <br />
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I think I'm officially obsessed with this project... <br />
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Choose Your Own Adventures have been changed, though I might have missed one.<br />
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Table of Contents has some shape, but the content is wildly inaccurate. When we're almost done I'll straighten her out.<br />
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Still need a bangin' intro image and intro piece, copyright/kopyleft pages, title page. Also, Cram, please doublecheck that all pieces are present, adding more is no problem.<br />
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I also gave some TLC to the dingbat textures. I can tone those down if they're bothersome. I also can tone them up a touch if some of them don't print well. And speaking of not printing well, try printing page 55, it's most likely to produce postscript errors. I'm going to go back and remove a lot of the dingbats that are coded into the PDF but hiding behind images even if everything prints out just fine. So expect problems printing samples, and know that I have a number of ways to fix it.<br />
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MAKING UP FOR LOST TIME, ITW.<br />
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[[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 02:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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=== Cram's Notes ===<br />
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Man, you are making some killer progress. I've really been enjoying how this book has evolved over the drafts. It started off looking very clean and proper, and is finally descending into proper levels of chaos. I think the dingbats do a good job of feeling like extraneous clutter on the page while simultaneously enhancing the design.<br />
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# There are a number of pieces which still aren't included. They include:<br />
:* Hearts & Minds (by Cain)<br />
:* the Shrapnel Theme stuff<br />
:* [[Liber FruFru]] (let's just grab the internet bit which has been retyped)<br />
:* [[OMGASM_Description]]<br />
:* [[Stupid Content]] - actually, for effort's sake, let's just use The Book of Dewlap and not the form Cainad made.<br />
:* Finished Cutups (other than Dream Jam)<br />
:** that includes [[5 Minutes of Panic]], should be somewhere after Dream Jam, with Zarathud hacking it up.<br />
:** [[Street Time]], should be late in the book, heavily hacked up by Zarathud<br />
:* [[The_Koan_Thread]] Zen Koans - throw these around liberally!<br />
:* [[Myspace Monkeys]] - on second thought, barely any of this needs to be in. <br />
:* A lot of the [[Marginalia]] - toss this around liberally!<br />
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Specific commentary on stuff:<br />
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* '''The Cover''' is looking sexier than ever. Should the subtitle be "New Iterations ON the Discordian fractal"? Or is "OF the discordian fractal" correct? will research.<br />
* '''Table of Contents''' - I love the monkey siloheutte in front of the Magritte painting. The K ball and chain is sweet too. Some of the titles need fixed, I'll mention that on that pieces entry.<br />
* '''Intro Page (00001)''' - I'll get on writing this. I'll see if I can WOMP up something in B&W, too.<br />
* '''Page 00006''': I can't find the original image used here on the left. I'd like to replace the word FAGGOTRY with SPAGGOTRY, even if it's just a larger SP typed on over the F.<br />
* '''Page 00010-00011''': There's some whitespace on 10 we could use for a koan or some marginalia. I was wondering... a lot of these pieces are two or four pages - is it better to have them on their own spread? That way you get the complete idea in one visual unit, without having to turn a page. As is now, it makes for a nice tear-out sheet though. What do you think? Is there a theory behind this layout?<br />
*'''Page 12-13''': I love the pairing of the gay wango tango image with the surveillance state piece.<br />
*'''Page 14''': There's a little ROFLBOT icon in the bottom right.<br />
*'''Page 17''': This is one of those Zarathud pieces. When will we get to see some of his antics incorporated?<br />
*'''Page 18''': Can you change the illustrator at the bottom of the CYOA image to "Illustrated by YUO"?.<br />
*'''Page 20''': The Dr. Strangelove quote needs "the atom bomb" at the end. Can you set the quote attribution on its own line? The hanging Dr looks weird.<br />
*'''Page 21''': It occurs to me that Princess Madnonymus has a pretty good avatar for an author headshot: http://we.dontexist.net/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=57;type=avatar - but please move the LANCELOT image somewhere else rather than removing it entirely, because I love it.<br />
*'''Page 23''': here's a pic for Enrico: http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/discordman/bin/enrico.png<br />
*'''Page 31''': Title should be "Go Mindfuck Yourself". The second-to-last line of the piece should also read "Go Mindfuck Yourself". Plz adjust this in the TOC and the end page, too.<br />
*'''Page 43''': It's gonna fry some people's bacon that we're including some loveshade stuff, but they can cram it sideways for all I care. <br />
*'''Page 47''': Let's replace Freedom Isn't Free with another of the [[Vexati0n Materials]], "Survival in the Surveillance State"<br />
*'''Page 48''': COYA book illustrator should be "Illustrated by the Wrath Of MS-Paint Cabal". If possible, can you boldface the W, O, M, and P?<br />
*'''Page 70''': I absolutely love the fonts, and how this is set. But delete the word "Operation". <br />
*'''Random''': Can we fit in any more of the [[Misc Art]]?<br />
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I really love this shit. I'm glad you're enjoying it too. I'm going to keep hacking at text. Is there anywhere you feel I should pay special attention to? Like maybe picking out the best marginalia or koans? I trust your judgement in picking stuff, but I could earmark some stuff too. I'd also like to get some more actual exchanges from the forum, I'm going to see if I can isolate any good snippets.<br />
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Cram<br />
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'''ADDED:''' [[3-word-story]], [[The Web of Chaos]], [[Masquerade]], [[Kopyleft page]]<br />
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WOW! This is just awesome, Net! I love the ''dingsplosions'' all over the place. I'd darken them slightly, but other than that I agree with Cram. Not liking the re-colourised cover (except that it's got those fantastic dings on it). Purely a personal thing, and I'm not going to make a fuss if everybody else likes it! :)<br />
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--[[User:Synaptyx|Rev. St. Syn, KSC]] 16:19, 20 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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''"I'm dating an extremely hot girl who's into psychology like me but still have feelings for my ex-wife, advice needed."''<br />
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Move forward my friend, move forward. She's your EX-wife for a reason. Get your booty moving and dance the pants off the psych-girl.<br />
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--[[User:Synaptyx|Rev. St. Syn, KSC]] 16:24, 20 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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<br />
'''THIS JUST IN:''' Edits:<br />
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Delete OMGASM Description. I didn't like it.<br />
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Replace with [[OMGASM Description 2]] and [[OMGASM Description 3]]. SO SPEAKETH [[User:Cramulus|Cramulus]] 15:45, 21 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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BTW: I passed along our fifth draft to RWHN and Hoopla to comment on it. I figured we could use an outside opinion or two before we concrete stuff. I'll also be doing some more editing on various pieces, I'll be sure to flag them so we have up-to-date copies in the manuscript.<br />
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Trip and I were talking about how this design is sexay enough that we don't want to waste it on just party materials. Also, Net suggested that it's quite easy to add more stuff to the book. So if you see anything else out there that you think belongs in, don't hesitate to plug us into it. this book has already outgrown its original britches. You guys have any thoughts on this? [[User:Cramulus|Cramulus]] 15:45, 21 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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=== 000 ===<br />
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Yes, what Cram said. this design is so awesome, it would like totally be the PD2.0 we've been waiting for all these years. personally i think there's goldmines of swote to be found in the Or Kill Me subforum.<br />
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also, move on, she's your exwife for a reason. it'll be hard, but yeah. ah i know you'll be able to do it. let's chat in IRC about it some time.<br />
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about the vertical stripe rastering. well i still havent printed it, but i can totally understand the idea of using it to fudge up the JPEG artifacts, that is something i would do. but if Syn says it won't really show up in the print version, and it looks weird on the test prints, drop it.<br />
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also also also, fuck shit i read above i still have like 3 unfinished tasks i promised i would do for you guys that i havent done. there's beers in my head now but i'll write it in my todo book tomorrow.<br />
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also also * 4 im gonna meet Syn on saturday, so i guess that's brainstorming time? :D<br />
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and, did i mention it looks fecking swote? cause it does. im gonna have to write a more in-depth critique of specific parts when sober.<br />
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should we start a new page btw, or are we going to keep it long? [[Special:Contributions/87.194.156.201|87.194.156.201]] 23:19, 21 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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=== Net: 8-25 ===<br />
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Sorry I haven't given you guys an update. I've been going crazy with this new girl - we'll be gone next weekend camping around the San Juan Islands. Cue dancing banana.<br />
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Which means that I'm going to be doing a lot of work on the book today through Thursday. I've been doing things here and there as I've had time but haven't gotten to a point to share the draft or properly respond to your feedback. Sometime in the next 12 hours I will and I'll address your comments and grievances as well.<br />
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[[User:Netaungrot|Netaungrot]] 22:47, 25 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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: Hey man, glad things are going well with the girl. Hey, are you going to be around on Columbus day weekend? I'll be in Portland for Esozone. We NEED to get together for a beers. <br />
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: I want to state, if I haven't yet, that you're doing a kickass job laying this shit down like pavement and I'm incredibly impressed. Is it cool that I'm still editing pieces and throwing shit on this pile? I don't want to get too carried away with adding new stuff, because I want this to be OVER soon so we can hold this sexy little thing in our arms and make love to it, but I am wracking my brains thinking - if this was the fucking final word on Discordia in this decade, what is it missing? This stuff exists out there, a lot of it has been posted on PD, I've just gotta track it down. And write an intro. And fucking spike a beer bottle on the ground and shout BIKAAAW. [[Special:Contributions/69.119.239.223|69.119.239.223]] 01:25, 26 August 2008 (UTC)</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Misc_Art&diff=322Misc Art2008-07-28T23:19:52Z<p>69.119.239.223: </p>
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<div>Here's some additional art for the Etc. Discordia<br />
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http://we.dontexist.net/avatars/Masks/<br />
*especially http://we.dontexist.net/avatars/Masks/21.jpg<br />
*especially http://we.dontexist.net/avatars/Masks/dog.jpg<br />
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http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/guest_trickstermask_businessman.png<br />
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http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/guest_trickstermask_businessman_wom.png<br />
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[http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c108/synaptyx/USPSbw.png Don't Fuck with the United States Postage - b/w]<br />
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[http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c108/synaptyx/USPS.png Don't Fuck with the United States Postage - colour]<br />
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These are from the Pterodactyl Handler's attacks:<br />
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http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8532/corn3po0ub9.jpg<br />
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http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm85/Raphialla/turkeyleg.jpg<br />
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http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/davedim/carebearbus.jpg a bus full of carebears going into a volcano<br />
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http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/davedim/dance.jpg - a picture of Gene Hackman, Gene Roddenberry, Gene Wilder, Gene Kelly, and Janeane Garofalo, holding hands and dancing around a pair of blue jeans.<br />
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http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i312/P3nT4gR4m/bluejeans.jpg - same<br />
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Darth Vader at a children's birthday party and young Anakin is throwing darts at him. Luke watches with disapproval and the children are obviously drunk:<br />
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http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i312/P3nT4gR4m/vador.jpg<br />
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http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/davedim/wtf.jpg<br />
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http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/erasmus042/forums/clip01.jpg - a picture of the MS Word paperclip on a romantic candlelit dinner with another office supply like a stapler or something.<br />
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http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1262/monkeyvaderbinksteafp6.jpg - A monkey butler serving tea to darth vader and jean luc picard in the springtime<br />
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http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk205/yarnsique/done.jpg<br />
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http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x279/BlessedBesse/overlayz/pterodactyls_vs_bob.jpg<br />
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http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4235/leonardoplanetdc9.jpg - A One Lime Meme Bomb or POSTERGASM being put up on another planet up by Leonardo.<br />
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http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk205/yarnsique/wutangcopy.jpg - President Bush smoking a bong and hanging out with famous rappers, some of which are actually dead.<br />
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http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk205/yarnsique/wutangcopy.jpg - http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4899/gwbrappersmy3.jpg</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=To-do&diff=137To-do2008-06-27T20:16:54Z<p>69.119.239.223: </p>
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<div>* Exclude pieces we don't think belong<br />
* Edit all the damn pieces for spelling/grammar/content.<br />
* Write any stuff that needs to be written for a more coherent theme<br />
* Layout process<br />
:# formulate potent concept/strategy statement<br />
:# layout roughs of typical pages<br />
:# layout roughs w/fonts <br />
:# layout w/fonts and images<br />
:# table of contents, copyright page, credits <br />
:# front and back cover designs <br />
:# comprehensive draft printed and examined by as many people as possible<br />
:# upload to lulu<br />
:# joyous noises<br />
* profit?<br />
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anything I'm missing? (Yes, it's been fixed.)<br />
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== Cramulus' Notes 6/27 ==<br />
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'''Here's Cramulus' proposed process 1.0:'''<br />
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* Netaungrot picks a font for the book.<br />
* We start with a blank page, with each piece layed out to fit on 1 or 2 pages.<br />
* We add 0-2 pieces of art, and 0-3 pieces of marginalia per page<br />
* We cut it up and modify it. [[Zarathud]] starts out making minor rearrangements at the beginning, then really fine cutups towards the end. 000 or Netaungrot adds little St. Zarathud to do his dirty work.<br />
* We do this for every freaking piece, or until we get bored.<br />
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<br />
<br />
We can mechanize production a bit if we adopt a process for editing these pages.<br />
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'''I propose:'''<br />
* We work on one spread at a time.<br />
* I'll set the words on the page. And maybe propose graphics.<br />
* 000 or Netaungrot will [[cut it up]], arrange the words, & add graphics. Add a little [[Zarathud]].<br />
* Netaungrot (or whoever's up for it) will add layout, style, etc.<br />
* Cram will collect the final PDFs. Mark that page DONE on the wiki.<br />
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<br />
'''Questions (please someone fill in the answer)'''<br />
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:# What file format should we work in? Should I release pages in .doc, .pdf, .jpg? <br />
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:# Syn said he'd be interested in helping too. Do we need additional help? Or is that too many cooks?<br />
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:# What is the default font will we be using for the body text?</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Style_Discussion&diff=114Style Discussion2008-06-26T13:04:47Z<p>69.119.239.223: /* 6/25 - Cram */</p>
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<div>== Cramulus' message to Net: ==<br />
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<br />
They're still being edited (to some extent)... and the order is still undefined. Ultimately I'd like to have a PDF which I can upload to lulu.com and then be able to sell a hard copy. <br />
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The goal here is to produce a book which with a collage/cutup style similar to the PD, but with a more modern feel. The PD was clearly put together using oldskool photocopiers and stolen stamps and artwork. A whole mishmosh of marginalia, dingbats, one-liners, scribbles, etc. We want to do a more high-tech / high-style version of this. <br />
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For my pieces ("the strange times", follow, why I put up posters, and Go OMF yourself) I'm going to print them out, then also print out some art (or whatever), then tape them onto a page, then scan the whole thing. Optimally, you'll see the tape and paste and whatever, giving it a really DIY feel. But that's the only pieces we've discussed layout/design for.<br />
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We've got quite a bit of WOMP and Misc art, some of it good, some of it bad, and we're unsure how to present it properly. http://we.dontexist.net/index.php?topic=150.0 and http://we.dontexist.net/index.php?topic=35.0 <br />
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We have a lot of marginalia: http://we.dontexist.net/index.php?topic=36.0 - this stuff can be included wherever it fits. <br />
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We're totally open to creative suggestion regarding editorial or design. The "we" here is me and triple zero. <br />
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We'd love to have you aboard no matter what level of involvement you're interested in. If you'd like to mess around with some of the pieces and lay them out, that'd be cool. If you want to try out a more comprehensive overarching style, that's cool too. Anything you can do to help us move towards having a final 8x11 sized B&W PDF would be sweet.<br />
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Are you interested?<br />
if so, Any ideas? <br />
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<br />
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PS: feel free to make notes right at the wiki I linked to. Might want to start your own page, and we can discuss over there. It's not too private, but very few people know it exists.<br />
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== Net's Reply ==<br />
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You can count me in.<br />
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I typed up this great message but then the WOMP link wouldn't load any images and crashed my window. Which is an interesting experience, not the browser, but the window... my CPU is still being taxed by it.<br />
<br />
Anyway.<br />
<br />
I had this really great teacher, Gary Cox, who has a creative method that has never let me down. You can find it here. http://www.garycox.com/creative_process.html I think we should do a step, share, discuss, freak out, and then do the next one, share discuss, etcetera until we have a finished booklet. <br />
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In my experience, the more thorough the defining, research, and brainstorming, the easier the grunt work.<br />
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And here's an idea I just got that could help tie all these disparate discordianisms together: we have a super simple cartoon character that interacts with the text body and images. He or she, it, would always be vandalizing a tiny part of it. Pulling a line out of alignment here, squishing a word there—it's rife with possibilities. On the cover the character could be interacting with the page itself by appearing to rip a part of the cover, with a real rip in the paper. Then at the end of the booklet he could have a large jumbled pile of type (as though a paragraph full of words fell on him from some kind of vandalism that clearly went too far). Oh, and maybe it could start very innocently, like with kicking a period, and slowly escalate into heavy machinery and wrecking balls and whatnot.<br />
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I dig the methodology. It seems to mirror what the Art of Memetics says about Mastermind groups..<br />
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I like the idea of the little character who's messing with the text. A little agent of Chaos that is slowly disassembling the book. I'm not too good with drawing though... any ideas on who this character should be?<br />
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We could steal a character out of the Principia. If I remember correctly, there's this little gremlin, hairy looking dude drawn in a very rudimentary style. That would provide a nice, not-too-obvious link to it. I think 000 has some cartooning skills, so at the very least, the two of us could do that part. But, the most difficult part of this plan that I can think of is making sure we have an idea per page. So first I think we need to lay it all out and get a sense of how many pages this is going to take.<br />
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In terms of manipulating raw text, as long as I can highlight it, it's all gravy. Some programs will retain their formatting when I dump them into InDesign, but this is by no means essential, yet. If we get to a point where that will be a big time saver we can work that out at that point. I kind of doubt it will be an issue though.<br />
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== 6/23 ==<br />
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* Chloe and Cramulus go through and try to organize pieces into "not in" and "in" categories. This proves difficult. We don't particularly care for a lot of the pieces, and we're worried that in the end, it'll be a bunch of pieces by PD heads. Which is not the goal.<br />
* We're considering writing a fiction piece which includes the people at the Masquerade as characters (a story about something that happens at the Masquerade), so everyone can feel like they participated, even if they don't end up having a piece in.<br />
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I like the idea for the fiction piece. However, the only solution I have about the cynicism and lack of sheer lulz is to ''manufacture lulz'' with the design. Suppose Chloe and Cram made a list in descending order of favoriteness: most favorite at the top, least favorite at the bottom. This would result in the least favorite writings getting the most amount of vandalism by our cartoon character. If they can't take a joke, fuck 'em. I think people will be happy to have their stuff included, even though we're making fun of them. <br />
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This could add another interesting layer of meaning to the cartoon character. His or her vandalism wouldn't be wanton, it would be a kind of protection of the reader. It would validate people's feelings of being offended so they might continue reading, just to see how we make fun of the next cynical git.<br />
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== 6/25 - Cram ==<br />
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I will begin drafting an intro piece which basically says "we don't stand behind everything in this book - it's a conucopia / collage of pieces. and we hope that even if YOU don't agree with everything, at least you'll have considered something outside of your comfortzone"<br />
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which is a cop-out, but within the scope of this project it should be okay.<br />
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See earlier, Chloe and I were worried that there's too much Sermon and not enough Lol. And we don't personally agree with a lot of the sermon pieces either. And we were worried that we'd have to Keep Digging or Produce NEW Stuff to balance the book... But I don't think that's the point. garbage in, garbage out?<br />
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The good part about this approach (the "let's just publish almost everything" approach) is that it helps everyone feel like they participated, and we can really just bust this thing out without feeling too protective over it... later, if we feel like it, we can take the Award Winning pieces and throw them into a different collection.<br />
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Objective: snare more Activitists into our incoherent clutches through POSTERGASM. Fine tune POSTERGASM materials for holy shit mastery<br />
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This wiki is supposed to house Cramulus' various projects and ideas. It's a sort of workspace for all sorts of garbage.<br />
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* [[Introduction to the BIP]] - by RWHN<br />
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[[Followup to Go OMF Yourself]] - near end<br />
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[[Liber Al Vel lols]] - we didn't write it, don't know who did, and it's not particularly funny unless your a crowlite<br />
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[[Save Money, Kill Time. Kill Money, Save Time]]<br />
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[[the Evil Dead Boxset for Only $3.99]]<br />
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[[Dr Strangelove or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love]]<br />
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Here in the Strange Times, there's a million billion crawly little critters trying to ride you down the river. See, you're floating through chaotic, shrapnel filled rapids. The foamy waters are brimming with symbols and images and squiggles and good causes. It's easy to cling to one like a life preserver and ride it for all its worth. You're clinging to some right now. You are a sticky meme, and you're trying to stay afloat. It's only human. <br />
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You grabbed onto that that symbol and that in-joke and that good cause because they were at the right place at the right time. When you're receptive, it's convenient to get on a raft made of religion or politics or some other made-up ideology. It's easy to assemble an identity out of tastes and values and shrapnel floating by. Over time, some of that stuff stops supporting your weight. Right when you're about to go under, you reach out and grab onto some other piece of shrapnel. You cling to it and use it to hold your head above the waters. At some point, you saw some stuff and met some people, and their shtick appealed to you, and you internalized it, and now you think that stuff is a ''part of you''. <br />
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Fast forward to the present: you're riding down the river in a barrel, your knuckles white as they grip your life preservers. Your pockets are stuffed with photographs, and there's cultural water in your ears. Let GO already. You don't need that crap. That's somebody else's crap. Learn to swim on your own.<br />
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I'm advocating activities. Not activism, but ''activitism''. I don't reccommend you go find a [i]cause[/i] (or some other baggage) to serve, I'm reccommending you get up, get out, and DO something. They've got you whipped like a circus lion to watch the world and then react to it. They want you to be a passive observer. The face on the money has you trained like Pavlov's dog. That's how the Machine works. It's made of perfectly predictable parts. <br />
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You could get bored. You could get numb. You could be alone in a sea of people. These are the dangers of modern living.<br />
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There's something out there which will make you excited just to wake up in the morning, and it's ''not'' spending your hard earned money on the latest You've-Gotta-See-This blockbuster. That shrapnel is just a distraction. The voices of the cultural chorus are a distraction too, because really, you're ''not'' one of Them.<br />
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You're a freak. You're weird in ways not even your best friends can understand. This is the Strange Times, and there are no groups of people, only individuals standing next to each other. <br />
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There's somebody in your life who you look to for direction. The one with the plan. The one who has great ideas. The one who seems to know what's going on. Kill him. Take his job. Become him. Quit waiting for somebody else to come up with something fun to do. Quit waiting for rock bottom or some other excuse to change what you don't like about yourself. Cough up all the water in your lungs and BREATHE you'll drown if you don't BREATHE for the first time ever BREATHE.<br />
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This isn't a lesson you can learn once and internalize. This is an ongoing challenge to [u]constantly reinvent yourself[/u]. This is a neverending battle you must wage against your comfort and your identity. If you think you've learned this lesson, then you stink of complacency. Initiation ''never'' ends. <br />
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Be the trouble you want to see in the world. <br />
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If you are here looking for frivolous material, obscene content, or anything that the enemy has put out in the name of Discordianism in order to obfuscate, then you are in the wrong place. The enemy has blinded the world to the true face of Eris by turning Discordianism into a joke. Read on if you aren't happy with ignorance, as they would like you to be. robo bogle<br />
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Stack! is a discordian game the concept of which has been reached independently by the whimsical and the mystical and the shenanigan-loving. the basic idea is that of putting things on top of other things. The picture i put up for my face shot or whatever that's supposed to be is an example of Stack! produced by myself and Mr. Kade Johnson at Bentley college one day. It is 20 chairs, stuck in the most precarious formation possible into a ghastly yet amazingly aesthetic, mostly random shape, entirely balanced on top of a single chair in the usual position for chairs (with four legs on the ground).<br />
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why is Stack! such a sweet game, and why is it discordian you ask? allow me to explain, and thank you for asking those questions. Stack! exhibits the concepts of order and chaos intertwined and of the ever-present precarious balance. during the course of Stack! objects are stacked one at a time in the least stable positions possible (many of the chairs in the picture are supported by a single leg standing on a seat, and similar improbable structures). when objects are placed atop the unstable objects, the weight of the new objects secures them slightly. the random, spur-of-the moment placement of objects in precarious balance produces a structure of relative stability in the end, locking tightly as it becomes more chaotic, developing a certain order out of its chaos.<br />
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so that's Stack! tell ya friends! it's a metric pantload of fun, and i reccomend that you go ahead and try it out. chairs are the best, they stack in interesting ways, but literally any objects and blends of objects can be used. who knows, if you use stones, maybe the finished shrine will be a permanent building, though the impermanence of the Stack! has its beauty.<br />
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when beginning a Stack! or after particularly skilled placements or completions, pronounce "Stack!" enthusiastically. it enhances the experience.<br />
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Even though the Hermit Apostle Zerathud never mentioned the celebration of Crackmas in any known text, and there seems to be no other Discordian philosophy surrounding it, myself and others have taken up the tradition of tri-annually celebrating this semi-false holiday. As far as I am aware, May 23 is the only non random celebration held by most Discordians.However, part of the human brain craves this "label your party", "theme shit", "unite to take off work and get drunk", "why not have a holiday?" kind of thing. Chaos within structure seems necessary for existence, and so maybe that is why Crackmas evolved. At first crack smoking squirrels from Central Park were quite excited when asked about their belief in the Crackmas. However, after finding out that the semi-false holiday was really about getting together with your friends, drinking, eating and the giving of gag gifts, and not about actually sucking the proverbial glass dick, they quickly became despondent and even out right rude.<br />
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Concerned Citizens for a Safe Internet<br />
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Discordianism: the Hidden Threat<br />
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In the Senate Anti-Terrorism Hearings in the wake of the Oklahoma bombing, a new menace has come to light. This menace is a shadowy, formless anarchoterrorist cult known as Discordianism. This cult contaminates the information superhighway and its tentacles reach everywhere.<br />
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Below are some facts about this organization, its methods and motives.<br />
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FACT: One of the founders of Discordianism was involved in the Kennedy assassination.<br />
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Discordianism was cofounded by Kerry Thornley. Thornley was a close friend of Lee Harvey Oswald and was involved in a covert Marxist group in the Marines. After the assassination of President Kennedy, District Attorney Jim Garrison uncovered evidence conclusively linking Thornley to the conspiracy.<br />
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FACT: Discordianism preaches drug use, terrorism and sexual depravity and the overthrow of all governments<br />
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The Discordian "Bible", the Discordia, contain incitement to plant marijuana and disobey laws and advocacy of pornography and blasphemy. Other materials are even more explicit and extreme. THESE MATERIALS ARE DISTRIBUTED WIDELY BY THE MEMBERS OF THIS CULT.<br />
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Discordians are prominent in drug advocate, anarchist, communist and militia movements. They will be found in any movement which opposes and hastens the destruction of society.<br />
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It is clear that the Discordians have no respect for the values of society which they seek to destroy. And if society does not see the threat and react to it swiftly they may succeed.<br />
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FACT: Discordians are entrenched on the Internet and use it to disseminate their propaganda<br />
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Discordianism is a cancer which has spread widely all over the Information Superhighway. There are Discordian Netscape pages advocating sexual perversion, anarchism and drug abuse. There are even newsgroups created and run by Discordian agents. The Net, which is decentralized and hard to police, is a perfect haven for these rats.<br />
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SUPPORT THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS REFORM ACT<br />
The Telecommunications Reform Act, currently before the Senate, will make it a criminal offense to distribute obscene and indecent material, categories under which Discordian propaganda clearly falls. This would allow the perpetrators of these materials to be properly dealt with by the law. Write to your congressman indicating your support for the act.<br />
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PRESSURE ONLINE SERVICES TO SHUT DOWN KNOWN DISCORDIAN SITES.<br />
There are Netscape pages all over the net run by Discordian cells, disseminating their poisonous propaganda to children. Some of these are at universities, some at commercial service providers. Letters and phone calls to the sites, describing the material and explaining why it is unacceptable would get it pulled. If the site refuses to comply, it may be sympathetic to or controlled by the Discordian group. If that is so, contact the site which provides it access and complain.<br />
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EDUCATE OTHERS ABOUT THE MENACE<br />
Copy and spread this alert. Transmit it to others. Tell others about the menace and the very real threat of Discordianism. The more people know, the fewer will be seduced by their lies.<br />
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PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN<br />
If your children have access to the net, monitor what they access. Do not allow them to access Discordian materials. If they have been contacted by agents of Discordianism, determine these agents' identities and call the police.<br />
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ACT LOCAL<br />
Keep your eyes open -- the Discordians could be where you are! Look around you. If you notice Discordian activity, in your community, your workplace, your online service or elsewhere, keep an eye on it and alert others. Report any illegal activity to law enforcement authorities. Only you can stop this threat!<br />
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DISSEMINATE THIS ALERT WIDELY. SEND COPIES TO ALL CONCERNED CITIZENS. IT'S UP TO YOU! ACT NOW!<br />
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It is possible for a concept or act to violate the truth patterns of a given personal universe (including a single persons part of a consensus reality) and yet still be true provided it works in a specific situation."<br />
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If a pattern of belief or behavior enables a being to survive and to accomplish chosen goals, then that belief or behavior is true, realistic, and/or sensible."<br />
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"LAW OF FINITE SENSES<br />
Every sense mechanism of every entity is limited by both range and type of data perceived, and many real phenomena exist which may be outside the sensory scanning ability of any given entity."<br />
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if any two or more patterns have elements in common, the patterns interact "through" those common elements. The control of one pattern facilitates control over the other(s), depending (among other factors) upon the number of common elements involved."<br />
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Why is there no laughter in the Bible?<br />
Why doesn't Christ ever crack a joke?<br />
Why doesn't Yahweh Himself, human-all-too-human that He is, ever step up to the mike and show His love by unloading a side-splitting zinger or two on the harried, overstressed Israelites?<br />
There seems to be a deadly new sobriety at work in the ancient Judaic desert cults that burgeoned into Christianity. (Compare with polytheism's daring array of tricksterism, jokes, pranks, and confidence-games.)<br />
Is this phenomenon related to Plato's banishing of the poets in The Republic? Is comedy a Satanic principle of diffusion and a reckless toying with the holy source-code of Universal Truth?<br />
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maybe he was quite funny and you just don't understand his sense of humor. i mean come on, "the meek shall inherit the earth, " right Jesus, ahhahaha, that's priceless. maybe the whole Son of God thing was one huge practical joke designed to get him crucified, thus fulfilling the Hebrew prophecy through his blasphemy, and sparking the religion that would dominate the world for the next 2000 years. joke's on us i guess...<br />
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It's a little known idea in some circles of learning that Christ was in fact the greatest insult comedian of his generation.<br />
text below might belong to Schizo Testament or not<br />
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BRUNETTI 11:1 "You know what the problem is? My philosophy's been GONADECTOMIZED. I did NOT advocate weakness! I was a badass stone-cold fearless motherfucker! I wasn't afraid to talk shit to the flatulent scumbags in power. I wandered around, angrily criticizing everybody, with a flagrant disregard for entrenched authoritorial structures. I made my own rules, rejecting everything society ever taught me, refusing to conform! Granted, I had supernatural powers, but, still, I was one balls-to-the-wall, pissed-off, rebellious dude! I could kick anybody's ass if I wanted to!"<br />
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IVAN 11:2 "Check it out, m'man: I espoused a creed of patricidal cataclysm. My old man was a vengeful, hubristic, and cruel taskmaster. Shit, why mince words? He was like a fuckin' Nazi! But take a look at MY principles. By comparison I'm practically a friggin' commie pinko son-of-a-bitch. I opposed materialism and the shallow pursuit of wealth in favor of a simple, unencumbered life, seeking only uncomplicated pleasures, decent food, honest work, and the time for meditation and reflective contemplation. Power to the people!"<br />
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HORSE 11:3 "And everyone forgets that I was a funny guy! In fact I was the foremost 'insult comic' of my day. Aren't all my parables hateful invective, reiterating my fundamental point: YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF DOOMED MORONS! I was a real wiseguy... The beatitudes were supposed to be a joke. I was just defying expectations, crushing the same old, bland tautologies, shaking things up, goofin' on people's heads..."<br />
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Is it just me, or is this body of christ a little dry today, kinda like matzos.<br />
That's why you get the wine. So the dessicated Jesus flakes don't stick to the roof of your mouth.<br />
We are sorry You are actually five affirmations away.<br />
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We must function like a virus, which is essientially a random peice of DNA with the ability to infiltrate other cells and corrupt them from the inside out.<br />
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1001 discordians on the wall<br />
1001 discordians<br />
if one of those discordians should happen to fall alone in the woods with noone else around, including listening devices of any kind and animals, bacterium, fungi, or even giga metres, is there a sound?<br />
1000 discordians on the wall!!!!!<br />
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Holy Chao,<br />
In an infinitely complex universe... it is easy to point and see order everywhere... because it is everywhere. It is equally easy to point at the infinite complexity of the order and say there is disorder, due to our own inability to describe such complex order. But, why point? It's rude.<br />
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The problem is that those who believe the defining principle of the universe is order will most likely apply that philosophy to their daily lives. They will value order above disorder and attempt to create more order in the world around them. But, this order is not infinitely complex, like universal order, and is flawed. For reference, see 'free will'.<br />
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Also, there are those who will value disorder over order and the defining principle in the universe. They will, most likely, attempt to break apart that which they see as ordered in favor of disorder. If there was no order in the universe, there would be no life or much of anything really. Especially not this discussion group.<br />
Valuing one principle over the other is the curse of Greyface. I try to value the creative over the destructive and realize that creativity is comprised of order and disorder.<br />
Maybe.<br />
While i see even chaos as a pattern that exists within an ordered system, i value chaos as a principle underpinning the way i live life or create art or think etc etc... (i try to use both sides of the brain)<br />
in this physical world we inhabit (all esoteric arguments aside) the reality we experience is a cohesive whole in which all things are inter-related, all things are cause and effect, all THINGS that is, this world , 3-d existence etc ... and so the question becomes is this chaos we subscribe to really chaos or just a reaction to an imposed order.. in this scenario it seems to me to be a part of a puzzle that continually spirals around itself, THAT is a pattern, which is order</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Book_Table_of_Contents&diff=74Book Table of Contents2008-06-10T23:01:22Z<p>69.119.239.223: /* all pieces */</p>
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Discordian Cyberspace Masquerade // Good To The Last Drop<br />
// or // how to Laugh, Love, Live, Joke & Jake in Strange Times<br />
PLAYBOOK<br />
How to Laugh, Love, Live, Joke & Jake in Strange Times<br />
Ignore This<br />
Notes from the Discordian Masquerade<br />
Complete Bullshit<br />
the Complete Idiot's Guide to Bullshit<br />
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narrowed down to the ones I like best:<br />
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The Masqeurade Handbook // How to Laugh, Love, Live, Joke & Jake in Strange Times<br />
PLAYBOOK // Notes from the Discordian Masquerade<br />
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I think we need more brainstorming though</div>69.119.239.223http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=14Main Page2008-06-03T21:36:21Z<p>69.119.239.223: </p>
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