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<hr />
<div>== Project Overview ==<br />
<br />
This project is an attempt to re-translate the Tao Te Ching with a zenarchist/discordian bent. Anyone that enjoys this stuff is welcome to help. In the end, it'll be published as a Kopyleft PDF.<br />
<br />
Here's how it'll work. Grab a chapter of the Tao Te Ching. If you don't speak chinese (hah!), lift a translation from the web somewhere. Underneath the translation, write your own version of that chapter. <br />
<br />
Since this is a wiki, we can all edit each others text until it WORKS.<br />
<br />
We'll experiment with a tone until we find the right one. For now, be irreverant, mysterious, wise, or silly. Keep it dense, the Tao Te Ching is a simple book that doesn't need too much explaining. Our translation should be minimalistic. Also, brevity is the soul of wit. :-)<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Background Reading Material ===<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Zenarchy:''' http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/zenarchy.html<br />
<br />
<br />
'''One translation of the Tao Te Ching:''' http://home.pages.at/onkellotus/TTK/English_Beck_TTK.html#Kap01 (C)?<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Lysergic's Zenarchy Unmanifesto'''<br />
<br />
zenarchy is what you think it is<br />
or this<br />
I come from the void to be thrown into this ocean of chaos, <br />
to dance and sing, love and hate, to journey and explore, laugh and cry & to rest + die.<br />
I do not know what is right or what is wrong, but I know what hurts.<br />
I know there is no one who truly understands the universe better then I, <br />
and I know I know so very little.<br />
The authorities are so very sure, and I am so very confused, <br />
yet I smile contently while they are grey-faced.<br />
The religious tell me that I am a sinner, <br />
I tell them if that is true, then I blame god.<br />
The government has lied, cheated and stolen unto me, <br />
and so I do unto others what has been done to me.<br />
I am a zenarchist, looking for other zenarchists, are you one?<br />
If you are unsure, you probably are.<br />
I wouldn't know a zenarchist if I were staring at one in the mirror.<br />
<br />
<br />
== The Sacred Chao Te Ching ==<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 1 ===<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
The Way that can be described is not the absolute Way;<br />
the name that can be given is not the absolute name.<br />
Nameless it is the source of heaven and earth;<br />
named it is the mother of all things.<br />
<br />
Whoever is desireless, sees the essence of life.<br />
Whoever desires, sees its manifestations.<br />
These two are the same,<br />
but what is produced has names.<br />
They both may be called the cosmic mystery:<br />
from the cosmic to the mystical<br />
is the door to the essence of all life.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
The Universe that can be described is not the real Universe;<br />
the name that can be given is not the absolute name.<br />
Nameless it is the source of order and disorder;<br />
named it is the mother of all things.<br />
<br />
Whoever is desireless, sees the essence of life.<br />
Whoever desires, sees its manifestations.<br />
These two are the same,<br />
but what is produced has names.<br />
They both may be called the cosmic mystery:<br />
from the cosmic to the mystical<br />
is the door to the essence of all life.<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 2 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
When the people of the world all know beauty as beauty,<br />
there arises the recognition of ugliness.<br />
When they all know the good as good,<br />
there arises the recognition of bad.<br />
<br />
Therefore being and non-being produce each other;<br />
difficult and easy complete each other;<br />
long and short contrast each other;<br />
high and low distinguish each other;<br />
sound and voice harmonize with each other;<br />
beginning and end follow each other.<br />
<br />
Therefore the wise manage affairs without interfering<br />
and teach beyond the words.<br />
<br />
All things rise, and they do not turn away from them.<br />
They give them life, but do not take possession of them.<br />
They act, but do not rely on their own ability.<br />
They accomplish, but claim no credit.<br />
Because they claim no credit,<br />
their accomplishment remains with them.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''<br />
When the people of the world all know people as people,<br />
there arises the recognition of stereotype.<br />
When they all know the good as good,<br />
there arises the recognition of government.<br />
''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 3 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Do not exalt the worthy,<br />
so that people will not compete.<br />
Do not value rare treasure,<br />
so that people will not steal.<br />
Do not display objects of desire,<br />
so that people's hearts will not be disturbed. <br />
<br />
Therefore the wise lead by keeping<br />
their hearts pure, their bellies full,<br />
their ambitions weak, and their bones strong,<br />
so that the people may be purified<br />
of their thoughts and desires;<br />
and the cunning ones will not interfere.<br />
By acting without interfering, all may live in peace.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 4 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
The Way is infinite; its use is never exhausted.<br />
It is bottomless, like the fountainhead of all things.<br />
It smoothes its roughness; it unties its tangles.<br />
It softens its light; it calms its turmoil.<br />
Deep and still, ever present.<br />
I do not know its source.<br />
It seems to have existed before the Lord.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 5 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Nature is not humane.<br />
It treats all things like sacrificial objects.<br />
The wise are not humane.<br />
They regard people like sacrificial objects.<br />
<br />
How the universe is like a bellows!<br />
While empty, it is never exhausted.<br />
The more it is worked, the more it produces.<br />
Much talk brings exhaustion.<br />
It is better to keep to the center.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 6 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
The spirit of the valley never dies.<br />
It is called the mystical female.<br />
The door of the mystical female<br />
is the root of heaven and earth.<br />
It seems to be continuously within us.<br />
Use it, and it will never fail.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 7 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Heaven is eternal, and the earth is very old.<br />
They can be eternal and long lasting,<br />
because they do not exist for themselves,<br />
and for this reason can long endure.<br />
<br />
Therefore the wise put themselves last,<br />
but find themselves foremost.<br />
They are indifferent to themselves,<br />
and yet they always remain.<br />
Is it not because they do not live for themselves<br />
that they find themselves fulfilled?<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 8 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
The best are like water.<br />
Water benefits all things and does not compete with them.<br />
It flows to the lowest level.<br />
In this it comes near to the Way.<br />
<br />
In their dwellings, they love the earth.<br />
In their hearts, they love what is profound.<br />
In their friendship, they love humanity.<br />
In their words, they love sincerity.<br />
In government, they love peace.<br />
In business, they love ability.<br />
In their actions, they love timeliness.<br />
It is because they do not compete<br />
that there is no resentment.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 9 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Stretch a bow to the very full,<br />
and you will wish you had stopped in time.<br />
Temper a sword-edge to its very sharpest,<br />
and the edge will not last long.<br />
<br />
When gold and jade fill your hall,<br />
you will not be able to keep them safe.<br />
To be proud with honor and wealth<br />
is to cause one's own downfall.<br />
Withdraw as soon as your work is done.<br />
Such is heaven's way.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 10 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Can you embrace the One with your soul,<br />
and never depart from the Way?<br />
Can you concentrate your vital force<br />
to achieve the gentleness of a new-born baby?<br />
Can you cleanse and purify your mystic vision<br />
until it is clear?<br />
Can you love the people and govern the state<br />
without interfering?<br />
Can you play the role of the female<br />
in opening and closing the doors of heaven?<br />
Can you understand all and penetrate all<br />
without using the mind?<br />
<br />
To give birth and to nourish,<br />
to give birth without taking possession,<br />
to act without obligation,<br />
to lead without dominating---<br />
this is mystical power.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''</div>82.3.204.25http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Sacred_Chao_Te_Ching&diff=656Sacred Chao Te Ching2009-04-14T12:55:47Z<p>82.3.204.25: /* Chapter 2 */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Project Overview ==<br />
<br />
This project is an attempt to re-translate the Tao Te Ching with a zenarchist/discordian bent. Anyone that enjoys this stuff is welcome to help. In the end, it'll be published as a Kopyleft PDF.<br />
<br />
Here's how it'll work. Grab a chapter of the Tao Te Ching. If you don't speak chinese (hah!), lift a translation from the web somewhere. Underneath the translation, write your own version of that chapter. <br />
<br />
Since this is a wiki, we can all edit each others text until it WORKS.<br />
<br />
We'll experiment with a tone until we find the right one. For now, be irreverant, mysterious, wise, or silly. Keep it dense, the Tao Te Ching is a simple book that doesn't need too much explaining. Our translation should be minimalistic. Also, brevity is the soul of wit. :-)<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Background Reading Material ===<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Zenarchy:''' http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/zenarchy.html<br />
<br />
<br />
'''One translation of the Tao Te Ching:''' http://home.pages.at/onkellotus/TTK/English_Beck_TTK.html#Kap01 (C)?<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Lysergic's Zenarchy Unmanifesto'''<br />
<br />
zenarchy is what you think it is<br />
or this<br />
I come from the void to be thrown into this ocean of chaos, <br />
to dance and sing, love and hate, to journey and explore, laugh and cry & to rest + die.<br />
I do not know what is right or what is wrong, but I know what hurts.<br />
I know there is no one who truly understands the universe better then I, <br />
and I know I know so very little.<br />
The authorities are so very sure, and I am so very confused, <br />
yet I smile contently while they are grey-faced.<br />
The religious tell me that I am a sinner, <br />
I tell them if that is true, then I blame god.<br />
The government has lied, cheated and stolen unto me, <br />
and so I do unto others what has been done to me.<br />
I am a zenarchist, looking for other zenarchists, are you one?<br />
If you are unsure, you probably are.<br />
I wouldn't know a zenarchist if I were staring at one in the mirror.<br />
<br />
<br />
== The Sacred Chao Te Ching ==<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 1 ===<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
The Way that can be described is not the absolute Way;<br />
the name that can be given is not the absolute name.<br />
Nameless it is the source of heaven and earth;<br />
named it is the mother of all things.<br />
<br />
Whoever is desireless, sees the essence of life.<br />
Whoever desires, sees its manifestations.<br />
These two are the same,<br />
but what is produced has names.<br />
They both may be called the cosmic mystery:<br />
from the cosmic to the mystical<br />
is the door to the essence of all life.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
The Universe that can be described is not the real Universe;<br />
the name that can be given is not the absolute name.<br />
Nameless it is the source of order and disorder;<br />
named it is the mother of all things.<br />
<br />
Whoever is desireless, sees the essence of life.<br />
Whoever desires, sees its manifestations.<br />
These two are the same,<br />
but what is produced has names.<br />
They both may be called the cosmic mystery:<br />
from the cosmic to the mystical<br />
is the door to the essence of all life.<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 2 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
When the people of the world all know beauty as beauty,<br />
there arises the recognition of ugliness.<br />
When they all know the good as good,<br />
there arises the recognition of bad.<br />
<br />
Therefore being and non-being produce each other;<br />
difficult and easy complete each other;<br />
long and short contrast each other;<br />
high and low distinguish each other;<br />
sound and voice harmonize with each other;<br />
beginning and end follow each other.<br />
<br />
Therefore the wise manage affairs without interfering<br />
and teach beyond the words.<br />
<br />
All things rise, and they do not turn away from them.<br />
They give them life, but do not take possession of them.<br />
They act, but do not rely on their own ability.<br />
They accomplish, but claim no credit.<br />
Because they claim no credit,<br />
their accomplishment remains with them.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''When the people of the world all know people as people,<br />
there arises the recognition of stereotype.<br />
When they all know the good as good,<br />
there arises the recognition of government.''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 3 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Do not exalt the worthy,<br />
so that people will not compete.<br />
Do not value rare treasure,<br />
so that people will not steal.<br />
Do not display objects of desire,<br />
so that people's hearts will not be disturbed. <br />
<br />
Therefore the wise lead by keeping<br />
their hearts pure, their bellies full,<br />
their ambitions weak, and their bones strong,<br />
so that the people may be purified<br />
of their thoughts and desires;<br />
and the cunning ones will not interfere.<br />
By acting without interfering, all may live in peace.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 4 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
The Way is infinite; its use is never exhausted.<br />
It is bottomless, like the fountainhead of all things.<br />
It smoothes its roughness; it unties its tangles.<br />
It softens its light; it calms its turmoil.<br />
Deep and still, ever present.<br />
I do not know its source.<br />
It seems to have existed before the Lord.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 5 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Nature is not humane.<br />
It treats all things like sacrificial objects.<br />
The wise are not humane.<br />
They regard people like sacrificial objects.<br />
<br />
How the universe is like a bellows!<br />
While empty, it is never exhausted.<br />
The more it is worked, the more it produces.<br />
Much talk brings exhaustion.<br />
It is better to keep to the center.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 6 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
The spirit of the valley never dies.<br />
It is called the mystical female.<br />
The door of the mystical female<br />
is the root of heaven and earth.<br />
It seems to be continuously within us.<br />
Use it, and it will never fail.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 7 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Heaven is eternal, and the earth is very old.<br />
They can be eternal and long lasting,<br />
because they do not exist for themselves,<br />
and for this reason can long endure.<br />
<br />
Therefore the wise put themselves last,<br />
but find themselves foremost.<br />
They are indifferent to themselves,<br />
and yet they always remain.<br />
Is it not because they do not live for themselves<br />
that they find themselves fulfilled?<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 8 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
The best are like water.<br />
Water benefits all things and does not compete with them.<br />
It flows to the lowest level.<br />
In this it comes near to the Way.<br />
<br />
In their dwellings, they love the earth.<br />
In their hearts, they love what is profound.<br />
In their friendship, they love humanity.<br />
In their words, they love sincerity.<br />
In government, they love peace.<br />
In business, they love ability.<br />
In their actions, they love timeliness.<br />
It is because they do not compete<br />
that there is no resentment.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 9 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Stretch a bow to the very full,<br />
and you will wish you had stopped in time.<br />
Temper a sword-edge to its very sharpest,<br />
and the edge will not last long.<br />
<br />
When gold and jade fill your hall,<br />
you will not be able to keep them safe.<br />
To be proud with honor and wealth<br />
is to cause one's own downfall.<br />
Withdraw as soon as your work is done.<br />
Such is heaven's way.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 10 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Can you embrace the One with your soul,<br />
and never depart from the Way?<br />
Can you concentrate your vital force<br />
to achieve the gentleness of a new-born baby?<br />
Can you cleanse and purify your mystic vision<br />
until it is clear?<br />
Can you love the people and govern the state<br />
without interfering?<br />
Can you play the role of the female<br />
in opening and closing the doors of heaven?<br />
Can you understand all and penetrate all<br />
without using the mind?<br />
<br />
To give birth and to nourish,<br />
to give birth without taking possession,<br />
to act without obligation,<br />
to lead without dominating---<br />
this is mystical power.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''</div>82.3.204.25http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Sacred_Chao_Te_Ching&diff=655Sacred Chao Te Ching2009-04-14T12:54:26Z<p>82.3.204.25: /* Chapter 3 */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Project Overview ==<br />
<br />
This project is an attempt to re-translate the Tao Te Ching with a zenarchist/discordian bent. Anyone that enjoys this stuff is welcome to help. In the end, it'll be published as a Kopyleft PDF.<br />
<br />
Here's how it'll work. Grab a chapter of the Tao Te Ching. If you don't speak chinese (hah!), lift a translation from the web somewhere. Underneath the translation, write your own version of that chapter. <br />
<br />
Since this is a wiki, we can all edit each others text until it WORKS.<br />
<br />
We'll experiment with a tone until we find the right one. For now, be irreverant, mysterious, wise, or silly. Keep it dense, the Tao Te Ching is a simple book that doesn't need too much explaining. Our translation should be minimalistic. Also, brevity is the soul of wit. :-)<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Background Reading Material ===<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Zenarchy:''' http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/zenarchy.html<br />
<br />
<br />
'''One translation of the Tao Te Ching:''' http://home.pages.at/onkellotus/TTK/English_Beck_TTK.html#Kap01 (C)?<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Lysergic's Zenarchy Unmanifesto'''<br />
<br />
zenarchy is what you think it is<br />
or this<br />
I come from the void to be thrown into this ocean of chaos, <br />
to dance and sing, love and hate, to journey and explore, laugh and cry & to rest + die.<br />
I do not know what is right or what is wrong, but I know what hurts.<br />
I know there is no one who truly understands the universe better then I, <br />
and I know I know so very little.<br />
The authorities are so very sure, and I am so very confused, <br />
yet I smile contently while they are grey-faced.<br />
The religious tell me that I am a sinner, <br />
I tell them if that is true, then I blame god.<br />
The government has lied, cheated and stolen unto me, <br />
and so I do unto others what has been done to me.<br />
I am a zenarchist, looking for other zenarchists, are you one?<br />
If you are unsure, you probably are.<br />
I wouldn't know a zenarchist if I were staring at one in the mirror.<br />
<br />
<br />
== The Sacred Chao Te Ching ==<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 1 ===<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
The Way that can be described is not the absolute Way;<br />
the name that can be given is not the absolute name.<br />
Nameless it is the source of heaven and earth;<br />
named it is the mother of all things.<br />
<br />
Whoever is desireless, sees the essence of life.<br />
Whoever desires, sees its manifestations.<br />
These two are the same,<br />
but what is produced has names.<br />
They both may be called the cosmic mystery:<br />
from the cosmic to the mystical<br />
is the door to the essence of all life.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
The Universe that can be described is not the real Universe;<br />
the name that can be given is not the absolute name.<br />
Nameless it is the source of order and disorder;<br />
named it is the mother of all things.<br />
<br />
Whoever is desireless, sees the essence of life.<br />
Whoever desires, sees its manifestations.<br />
These two are the same,<br />
but what is produced has names.<br />
They both may be called the cosmic mystery:<br />
from the cosmic to the mystical<br />
is the door to the essence of all life.<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 2 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
When the people of the world all know beauty as beauty,<br />
there arises the recognition of ugliness.<br />
When they all know the good as good,<br />
there arises the recognition of bad.<br />
<br />
Therefore being and non-being produce each other;<br />
difficult and easy complete each other;<br />
long and short contrast each other;<br />
high and low distinguish each other;<br />
sound and voice harmonize with each other;<br />
beginning and end follow each other.<br />
<br />
Therefore the wise manage affairs without interfering<br />
and teach beyond the words.<br />
<br />
All things rise, and they do not turn away from them.<br />
They give them life, but do not take possession of them.<br />
They act, but do not rely on their own ability.<br />
They accomplish, but claim no credit.<br />
Because they claim no credit,<br />
their accomplishment remains with them.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 3 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Do not exalt the worthy,<br />
so that people will not compete.<br />
Do not value rare treasure,<br />
so that people will not steal.<br />
Do not display objects of desire,<br />
so that people's hearts will not be disturbed. <br />
<br />
Therefore the wise lead by keeping<br />
their hearts pure, their bellies full,<br />
their ambitions weak, and their bones strong,<br />
so that the people may be purified<br />
of their thoughts and desires;<br />
and the cunning ones will not interfere.<br />
By acting without interfering, all may live in peace.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 4 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
The Way is infinite; its use is never exhausted.<br />
It is bottomless, like the fountainhead of all things.<br />
It smoothes its roughness; it unties its tangles.<br />
It softens its light; it calms its turmoil.<br />
Deep and still, ever present.<br />
I do not know its source.<br />
It seems to have existed before the Lord.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 5 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Nature is not humane.<br />
It treats all things like sacrificial objects.<br />
The wise are not humane.<br />
They regard people like sacrificial objects.<br />
<br />
How the universe is like a bellows!<br />
While empty, it is never exhausted.<br />
The more it is worked, the more it produces.<br />
Much talk brings exhaustion.<br />
It is better to keep to the center.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 6 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
The spirit of the valley never dies.<br />
It is called the mystical female.<br />
The door of the mystical female<br />
is the root of heaven and earth.<br />
It seems to be continuously within us.<br />
Use it, and it will never fail.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 7 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Heaven is eternal, and the earth is very old.<br />
They can be eternal and long lasting,<br />
because they do not exist for themselves,<br />
and for this reason can long endure.<br />
<br />
Therefore the wise put themselves last,<br />
but find themselves foremost.<br />
They are indifferent to themselves,<br />
and yet they always remain.<br />
Is it not because they do not live for themselves<br />
that they find themselves fulfilled?<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 8 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
The best are like water.<br />
Water benefits all things and does not compete with them.<br />
It flows to the lowest level.<br />
In this it comes near to the Way.<br />
<br />
In their dwellings, they love the earth.<br />
In their hearts, they love what is profound.<br />
In their friendship, they love humanity.<br />
In their words, they love sincerity.<br />
In government, they love peace.<br />
In business, they love ability.<br />
In their actions, they love timeliness.<br />
It is because they do not compete<br />
that there is no resentment.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 9 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Stretch a bow to the very full,<br />
and you will wish you had stopped in time.<br />
Temper a sword-edge to its very sharpest,<br />
and the edge will not last long.<br />
<br />
When gold and jade fill your hall,<br />
you will not be able to keep them safe.<br />
To be proud with honor and wealth<br />
is to cause one's own downfall.<br />
Withdraw as soon as your work is done.<br />
Such is heaven's way.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 10 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Can you embrace the One with your soul,<br />
and never depart from the Way?<br />
Can you concentrate your vital force<br />
to achieve the gentleness of a new-born baby?<br />
Can you cleanse and purify your mystic vision<br />
until it is clear?<br />
Can you love the people and govern the state<br />
without interfering?<br />
Can you play the role of the female<br />
in opening and closing the doors of heaven?<br />
Can you understand all and penetrate all<br />
without using the mind?<br />
<br />
To give birth and to nourish,<br />
to give birth without taking possession,<br />
to act without obligation,<br />
to lead without dominating---<br />
this is mystical power.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''</div>82.3.204.25http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Sacred_Chao_Te_Ching&diff=654Sacred Chao Te Ching2009-04-14T12:53:22Z<p>82.3.204.25: /* Chapter 3 */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Project Overview ==<br />
<br />
This project is an attempt to re-translate the Tao Te Ching with a zenarchist/discordian bent. Anyone that enjoys this stuff is welcome to help. In the end, it'll be published as a Kopyleft PDF.<br />
<br />
Here's how it'll work. Grab a chapter of the Tao Te Ching. If you don't speak chinese (hah!), lift a translation from the web somewhere. Underneath the translation, write your own version of that chapter. <br />
<br />
Since this is a wiki, we can all edit each others text until it WORKS.<br />
<br />
We'll experiment with a tone until we find the right one. For now, be irreverant, mysterious, wise, or silly. Keep it dense, the Tao Te Ching is a simple book that doesn't need too much explaining. Our translation should be minimalistic. Also, brevity is the soul of wit. :-)<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Background Reading Material ===<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Zenarchy:''' http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/zenarchy.html<br />
<br />
<br />
'''One translation of the Tao Te Ching:''' http://home.pages.at/onkellotus/TTK/English_Beck_TTK.html#Kap01 (C)?<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Lysergic's Zenarchy Unmanifesto'''<br />
<br />
zenarchy is what you think it is<br />
or this<br />
I come from the void to be thrown into this ocean of chaos, <br />
to dance and sing, love and hate, to journey and explore, laugh and cry & to rest + die.<br />
I do not know what is right or what is wrong, but I know what hurts.<br />
I know there is no one who truly understands the universe better then I, <br />
and I know I know so very little.<br />
The authorities are so very sure, and I am so very confused, <br />
yet I smile contently while they are grey-faced.<br />
The religious tell me that I am a sinner, <br />
I tell them if that is true, then I blame god.<br />
The government has lied, cheated and stolen unto me, <br />
and so I do unto others what has been done to me.<br />
I am a zenarchist, looking for other zenarchists, are you one?<br />
If you are unsure, you probably are.<br />
I wouldn't know a zenarchist if I were staring at one in the mirror.<br />
<br />
<br />
== The Sacred Chao Te Ching ==<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 1 ===<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
The Way that can be described is not the absolute Way;<br />
the name that can be given is not the absolute name.<br />
Nameless it is the source of heaven and earth;<br />
named it is the mother of all things.<br />
<br />
Whoever is desireless, sees the essence of life.<br />
Whoever desires, sees its manifestations.<br />
These two are the same,<br />
but what is produced has names.<br />
They both may be called the cosmic mystery:<br />
from the cosmic to the mystical<br />
is the door to the essence of all life.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
The Universe that can be described is not the real Universe;<br />
the name that can be given is not the absolute name.<br />
Nameless it is the source of order and disorder;<br />
named it is the mother of all things.<br />
<br />
Whoever is desireless, sees the essence of life.<br />
Whoever desires, sees its manifestations.<br />
These two are the same,<br />
but what is produced has names.<br />
They both may be called the cosmic mystery:<br />
from the cosmic to the mystical<br />
is the door to the essence of all life.<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 2 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
When the people of the world all know beauty as beauty,<br />
there arises the recognition of ugliness.<br />
When they all know the good as good,<br />
there arises the recognition of bad.<br />
<br />
Therefore being and non-being produce each other;<br />
difficult and easy complete each other;<br />
long and short contrast each other;<br />
high and low distinguish each other;<br />
sound and voice harmonize with each other;<br />
beginning and end follow each other.<br />
<br />
Therefore the wise manage affairs without interfering<br />
and teach beyond the words.<br />
<br />
All things rise, and they do not turn away from them.<br />
They give them life, but do not take possession of them.<br />
They act, but do not rely on their own ability.<br />
They accomplish, but claim no credit.<br />
Because they claim no credit,<br />
their accomplishment remains with them.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 3 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Do not exalt the worthy,<br />
so that people will not compete.<br />
Do not value rare treasure,<br />
so that people will not steal.<br />
Do not display objects of desire,<br />
so that people's hearts will not be disturbed. <br />
<br />
Therefore the wise lead by keeping<br />
their hearts pure, their bellies full,<br />
their ambitions weak, and their bones strong,<br />
so that the people may be purified<br />
of their thoughts and desires;<br />
and the cunning ones will not interfere.<br />
By acting without interfering, all may live in peace.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''When the people of the world all know people as people,<br />
there arises the recognition of stereotype.<br />
When they all know the good as good,<br />
there arises the recognition of government.''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 4 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
The Way is infinite; its use is never exhausted.<br />
It is bottomless, like the fountainhead of all things.<br />
It smoothes its roughness; it unties its tangles.<br />
It softens its light; it calms its turmoil.<br />
Deep and still, ever present.<br />
I do not know its source.<br />
It seems to have existed before the Lord.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 5 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Nature is not humane.<br />
It treats all things like sacrificial objects.<br />
The wise are not humane.<br />
They regard people like sacrificial objects.<br />
<br />
How the universe is like a bellows!<br />
While empty, it is never exhausted.<br />
The more it is worked, the more it produces.<br />
Much talk brings exhaustion.<br />
It is better to keep to the center.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 6 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
The spirit of the valley never dies.<br />
It is called the mystical female.<br />
The door of the mystical female<br />
is the root of heaven and earth.<br />
It seems to be continuously within us.<br />
Use it, and it will never fail.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 7 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Heaven is eternal, and the earth is very old.<br />
They can be eternal and long lasting,<br />
because they do not exist for themselves,<br />
and for this reason can long endure.<br />
<br />
Therefore the wise put themselves last,<br />
but find themselves foremost.<br />
They are indifferent to themselves,<br />
and yet they always remain.<br />
Is it not because they do not live for themselves<br />
that they find themselves fulfilled?<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 8 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
The best are like water.<br />
Water benefits all things and does not compete with them.<br />
It flows to the lowest level.<br />
In this it comes near to the Way.<br />
<br />
In their dwellings, they love the earth.<br />
In their hearts, they love what is profound.<br />
In their friendship, they love humanity.<br />
In their words, they love sincerity.<br />
In government, they love peace.<br />
In business, they love ability.<br />
In their actions, they love timeliness.<br />
It is because they do not compete<br />
that there is no resentment.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 9 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Stretch a bow to the very full,<br />
and you will wish you had stopped in time.<br />
Temper a sword-edge to its very sharpest,<br />
and the edge will not last long.<br />
<br />
When gold and jade fill your hall,<br />
you will not be able to keep them safe.<br />
To be proud with honor and wealth<br />
is to cause one's own downfall.<br />
Withdraw as soon as your work is done.<br />
Such is heaven's way.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
''TK''<br />
<br />
=== Chapter 10 ===<br />
<br />
'''Original:'''<br />
<br />
Can you embrace the One with your soul,<br />
and never depart from the Way?<br />
Can you concentrate your vital force<br />
to achieve the gentleness of a new-born baby?<br />
Can you cleanse and purify your mystic vision<br />
until it is clear?<br />
Can you love the people and govern the state<br />
without interfering?<br />
Can you play the role of the female<br />
in opening and closing the doors of heaven?<br />
Can you understand all and penetrate all<br />
without using the mind?<br />
<br />
To give birth and to nourish,<br />
to give birth without taking possession,<br />
to act without obligation,<br />
to lead without dominating---<br />
this is mystical power.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Our Translation:'''<br />
<br />
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