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Re: What is this section about (n00bs read this!)
« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2007, 11:50:56 am »
Yeah, that's what I meant to say. My whole lifes been weird.
Now I've actually noticed.
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He had a voice that was strong and loud and I
Swallowed his facade cuz I'm so
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Someone above the ground,
Someone who seemed to feel the same,
Someone prepared to lead the way, and
Someone who would die for me.

Will you? Will you now?
Would you die for me?
Don't you fuckin lie.

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Re: What is this section about (n00bs read this!)
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2007, 04:53:05 pm »
btw if that parable of yours was sorta autobiographical, that kinda makes it suck just a littlebit less.

it's still awful, though.
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Re: What is this section about (n00bs read this!)
« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2007, 12:46:05 am »
Yeah, actually, it was sorta autobiographical.
Everything in it was true.
In a warped way.
That's what makes it really sad :(
Standing above the crowd,
He had a voice that was strong and loud and I
Swallowed his facade cuz I'm so
Eager to identify with
Someone above the ground,
Someone who seemed to feel the same,
Someone prepared to lead the way, and
Someone who would die for me.

Will you? Will you now?
Would you die for me?
Don't you fuckin lie.

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Re: What is this section about (n00bs read this!)
« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2007, 01:05:31 am »
most autobios are teh suxxorz


if not all
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Re: What is this section about (n00bs read this!)
« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2007, 01:14:00 am »

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Re: What is this section about (n00bs read this!)
« Reply #50 on: March 30, 2007, 04:24:45 pm »
interesting... can some one link me BIP?
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Re: What is this section about (n00bs read this!)
« Reply #51 on: March 30, 2007, 04:25:50 pm »
Check my sig.  should be valid.
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« Reply #52 on: March 31, 2007, 01:38:15 am »
cures my lack of adobi updates  :argh!:  i'll read it once my com is doen downloading
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Re: What is this section about (n00bs read this!)
« Reply #54 on: March 31, 2007, 02:05:53 am »
That's right, the wiki.  Good call. 
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Re: What is this section about (n00bs read this!)
« Reply #55 on: April 10, 2007, 03:09:45 am »

For clarifying certain elusive points, might I suggest a few illustrations to help.  Believe me pictures are not just for the illiterate, they do often speak volumes in bringing a verbal point to light for those who don't conceptualize via written words as well as with pictoral representations.  It would help maximize the potential for understanding, thereby drawing in a wider audience. 

BTW I just made my BIP booklet for my reading pleasure...didn't follow the instructions exactly but I gots me a booklet none-the-less.
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Re: What is this section about (n00bs read this!)
« Reply #56 on: April 10, 2007, 11:52:56 am »
I'm working on a couple of gliffy images.  we'll see where it takes us.
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Re: What is this section about (n00bs read this!)
« Reply #57 on: April 16, 2007, 12:48:59 am »
I read it and it's interesting but I think it could be better.

A few basic points:

I know it's probably been harvested from lots of different sources but I think the style should be more coherent. If you're going to address the reader as 'mate' then continue doing so (or not if I were you, didn't quite ring true). Maybe give it to one person and let them re-wright it in a consistent style. The TGRR interludes are good but you're gonna need more interlude type chapters from other 'characters' or just more from his good self for balance. Short paragraphs at the end of sections of just the very best stuff would work just as well.

If it's ment to be a collection of different 'posts' on a website then make it more obvious that that's what it is. At present it's an interesting read but with no structure, therefore very little focused impact.

For more impact I would try and engage the reader in more practical endeavours. The whole sprockets and widgets thing was intriguing but sadly wasn't developed at all. Go into detail, draw a full colour map! Give suggestions on how to fuckup the Machine's basic processes in the personal sphere.

As a structure, the philosophising bits could be interspersed with the activity bits for good balance.

There's a fair bit of repetition that needs weeding out and a lot of stuff talked around from similar angles. Better to make the point and build on it than waffle around the same point (which seemed to happen in the last few sections which should have been mor sprocket and widget stuff, practical info and aplications).

I think you could wittle the whole thing down to a third of it's current size and have a much more direct impact on the reader.

A more coherent style will ensure the message doesn't become diluted.
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Re: What is this section about (n00bs read this!)
« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2007, 11:44:50 am »
I think you could wittle the whole thing down to a third of it's current size and have a much more direct impact on the reader.

hm, i think this is a very good point, especially thinking of attention-spans. people are more likely to read something short, and if he want to know more, they simply need a few pointers (simply www.blackironprison.com would be best, people can memorize that)

about the different sources, i think that's a good thing. if it's not clear they're different sources/writers/pieces, i agree it should be made clearer, but again it lowers the treshold for reading a piece, because it's only a few paragraphs.

practical endaevours, yes, we need more of those. always :) please suggest a few, if you've got some :)
(a collection of these also might make a good page on the wiki, to be crossreferenced with Now What Do I Do?)
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Re: What is this section about (n00bs read this!)
« Reply #59 on: April 17, 2007, 12:19:56 pm »
I keep getting these urges to do a major editing job on the original BIP pamphlet, but I feel really weird about fucking around with someone else's writing.

I know it's mostly kopyleft, but still.  I'd hate to make some revisions & piss off the original author.
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