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Just a little chat.
« on: January 27, 2007, 06:14:53 am »
When you die, youre going to regret the things you dont do. You think youre queer? Im going to tell you something, were all queer. You think youre a thief? So what? You get befuddled by a middle-class morality? Get shut of it. Shut it out. You cheated on your girlfriend? You did it, live with it. You fuck little girls, so be it. Theres an absolute morality? May be. And then what? If you think there is, then be that thing. Bad people go to hell? I dont think so. If you think that way, act that way. A hell exists on earth? Yes. I wont live in it. Thats me.

You ever take a dump that made you feel like you slept for twelve hours? Or a piss? A great meal fades in reflection. Everything else gains. You know why? Cause its only food. This shit we eat, it keeps us going. But its only food. The great fucks you may have had. What do you remember about them? I dont know. For me, Im saying, what it is, its not the orgasm. Her forearms on my neck, something her eyes did. There was a sound she made...or, me, lying, in the, Ill tell you: me lying in bed; the next day we go out and have fun. Then we fool around some more, my balls feel like concrete. Eh?

What Im saying, what is our life? Its looking forward or its looking back. And thats our life. Thats it. Where is the moment? And what is it that were afraid of? Loss. What else? The bank closes. We get sick, my girlfriend dies in a car accident, the stock market collapsed, the house burnt down; what of these happen? None of em. We worry anyway. What does this mean? Im not secure. How can I be secure? Through amassing wealth beyond all measure? No. And whats beyond all measure? Thats a sickness. Thats a trap. There is no measure. Only greed.

How can we act? The right way, we would say, to deal with this: There is a one-in-a-million chance that so and so will happen. Fuck it, it wont happen to me. No. We know that is not the right way I think. We say the correct way to deal with this There is a one-in-so-and-so chance this will happen. God protect me. I am powerless, let not happen to me. But no to that. I say, theres something else. What is it? If it happens, AS IT MAY for that is not within our powers, I will deal with it, just as I do today with what draws my concern today. I say this is how we must act. I do those things which seem correct to me today. I trust myself. And if security concerns me, I do that which today I think will make me secure. And every day I do that, when the day arrives that I need a reserve, (a) odds are that I have it, and (b) the true reserve is that I have the strength that I have of acting each day without fear. According to the dictates of my mind. Stocks, bonds, objects of art, friends. Now: What are they? An opportunity. To what? To make money? Perhaps. To lose money? Perhaps. To indulge and to learn about ourselves? Perhaps. So fucking what? What isnt? Theyre an opportunity. Thats all. Theyre an event. You walk up to a guy, he makes a call, something gets done, it doesnt matter, Theres this person that Id like you to meet. What does it mean? What do you want it to mean? Money? Security? Comfort? All it is is THINGS THAT HAPPEN TO YOU. Thats all it is. How are they different? Some poor, newly married guy gets run down by a cab. Some busboy wins the lottery. All it is, its a carnival. Whats special, what draws us? Were all different. Were not the same. We are not the same.

HmmmĶ

Its been a long week.
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Re: Just a little chat.
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2007, 06:55:38 am »
When you die, youre going to regret the things you dont do.

When I die, I won't regret a damn thing.
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Re: Just a little chat.
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2007, 07:10:28 pm »
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Re: Just a little chat.
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2007, 01:59:27 pm »
Are you arguing for moral equivalency?


Just trying to sort out your post.
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2007, 02:28:59 pm »
Am I the only one reading this and asking the question,

What the hell are you talking about?

I think there is a point but it's getting lost on me. 
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Re: Just a little chat.
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2007, 02:34:39 pm »
For me, I got thrown by the implication it was ok to fuck little girls.
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2007, 02:40:59 pm »
So did I.

As far as I can tell, this seems to be a nihilistic, egotistical point of view that reduces morality to another unnecessary abstraction and allows everything.  Which is the second trick of the CoN, once the bright-eyed optimism wears off.  "Fuck everyone else over, so long as you're OK."

Hey, it works for the Bush administration after all....

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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2007, 02:45:11 pm »
For me, I got thrown by the implication it was ok to fuck little girls.

Holy crap, I skimmed right over that one. 
THE OP should know that anyone who thinks it might be OK to fuck MY little girl will definitely have their balls feeling like concrete because they would become a part of the concrete along with their skull.

just sayin.

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Re: Just a little chat.
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2007, 02:50:47 pm »
Before we go overboard, let's point out that he didn't explicitly say it was ok to fuck little girls.  He was probably being polemical.


However, he's got a bit of 'splainin to do, that's for sure.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2007, 02:56:31 pm »
Yeah, I tended to treat that as being an example.

That said, nihilism and moral equivalency are just another CoN tool.  If nothing you do is either good or bad, then neither is anything anyone else does, in which case everything is justified and action becomes simultaneously null and the only truth.  Which is suspiciously close to both the arguments of the Bolsheviks in particular, Marxists in general and the NeoCons.

Oops, I may just have given some of the game away there.

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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2007, 02:57:12 pm »
Are you saying a spiked club to the head is overboard then? :-D

I shall reserve judgement, just wanted to make sure the OP knows where I am coming from. Good to know your audience and all that jazz.
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2007, 03:24:03 pm »
Can someone just clarify for me - is it okay to fuck little girls or not?
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2007, 03:40:28 pm »
Cultural Relativism is one thing, but I highly disaprove of moral relativism. There are some basic moral standards of conduct, and fucking little girls is not one of them.

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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2007, 04:34:37 pm »
Indeed.  Cultural relativism is teh win, but not when it extends to, for example, stoning rape victims.

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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2007, 04:40:17 pm »
Not even if they were asking for it?
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