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Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2007, 03:54:32 pm »
I concur with LMNO on concurring with Felix's answer.

Also concur on the matter of pedantry leading to sadfaces! (Says the girl who suffers from an acute case of pretentious :oops:)

Here is the problem with getting into dictionary pronounciations--dialects are pretty cool, at least from an observer/academic point of view. As soon as you limit acceptability or authority to some big external power (such as good ol' Merriam-Webster), you end up rejecting the validity of regional modifications. Language is a constantly evolving thing (linguistics is so freaking interesting). With all of our pronounciations, we would understand who/what/etc we were talking about, if we were to speak to each other. (Last time I heard someone say "Hail Eris!" for example, I did not worry about pronounciation, so much as the degree of exaggeration I intended to use while rolling my eyes.) It is the idea that we're communicating, not the specific sound. The evolution of language is part of what makes language so cool/interesting.

I don't know where I'm going with this. Except that Felix is right, and why do we even care about the correct pronounciation anyways? :p

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Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2007, 03:59:25 pm »
I just want to step in here and say that I use E-Prime quite often.

I'm not bashing E-Prime per se, I just wanted to point out that there are times when it seems appropriate, and times when it doesn't. 

This was one of those latter times, IMO.

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Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2007, 04:01:48 pm »
Eris is pronounced with a silent "bullshit".

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Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2007, 04:12:53 pm »
I just want to step in here and say that I use E-Prime quite often.

I'm not bashing E-Prime per se, I just wanted to point out that there are times when it seems appropriate, and times when it doesn't. 

This was one of those latter times, IMO.

Exactly. There is a time and place for everything. Despite my love of observing linguistic trends, I would not recommend speaking in ebonics for a job interview selling Ferraris. Time and place.

Being trapped alone in the office today (again), I shall pass my time reading up on E-Prime so I can try to avoid accidentally spewing anything idiot.
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Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2007, 04:27:35 pm »
The english language is a piss poor, piece of shit way of communicating. It needs to be raped, murdered and set on fire before it's any use to anybody.

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Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2007, 04:52:23 pm »
I just seem to want to step in here and seem to say that I use E-Prime quite often.

I seem not to be bashing E-Prime per se, I just wanted to point out that there seem to be times when it seems appropriate, and times when it doesn't. 

This was one of those latter times, IMO, seemingly.
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Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2007, 05:00:43 pm »
The english language is a piss poor, piece of shit way of communicating. It needs to be raped, murdered and set on fire before it's any use to anybody.

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Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2007, 05:35:01 pm »
Eris is pronounced with a silent "bullshit".

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Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2007, 06:41:42 pm »
Edit: Boring old fart quotes Monty Python Argument sketch and thinks he's funny..
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Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2007, 07:19:48 pm »
I wish I'd never mentioned E'.  Unfortunately when I get online my default settings include sarcasm, cynicism, irony, etc - I'll remember to untick the boxes next time I try to speak up (sorry type up).

And pronunciation does seem to matter to people who talk and actually want to feel understood...

If you prefer the response "Huh?" every time you speak, then don't adapt. When I lived in the USA for 18 months I learned to change my vowel sounds so people would understand my 'English' accent...so I will try to remember that (in the USA) it's pronounced Ee-Ris.

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I think all of us have to adapt our approaches in order to communicate with people that don't necessarily operate with the same approach/background/frame of reference that most of us here tend to use. Whether that's through vocabulary, pronunciation or even contextual nuances, the point of communicating is to exchange concepts and/or information between persons. Whatever it takes to make that happen is fair game as far as I'm concerned, even if it means drawing little pictograms in the dirt.

Everyone has their own little quirks when it comes to how they communicate, both verbally and textually. Many of us here are familiar with, value, and even use e-prime frequently (I prefer it myself). If it works for you to use that to feel your side of a conversation has been conveyed, then good! That's half the point. Admittedly the other half is "did the other person have my meaning conveyed effectively and did their ideas and concepts get conveyed effectively to me?" which is where the trick of adapting communication methods comes in to play.

And pronounce "Eris" like Throatwabbler Mangrove if you want. Just so long as everyone knows what you're attempting to convey, it'll be fine  :mrgreen:


Also, that's one of my all-time favorite sketches. It's always been a toss-up between that one, the Confuse-a-Cat sketch and the Job Interview sketch. Ah, python!
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Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« Reply #40 on: June 04, 2007, 08:16:23 pm »
Eris is pronounced with a silent "bullshit".

more like a not-completely-silent muffled in a people-who-need-to-know-will-pick-it-up way, "bullshit":

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Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2007, 08:31:54 pm »
so I will try to remember that (in the USA) it's pronounced Ee-Ris.

No.

It isn't.
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Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« Reply #42 on: June 04, 2007, 08:55:03 pm »
so I will try to remember that (in the USA) it's pronounced Ee-Ris.

No.

It isn't.

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« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2007, 08:56:29 pm »
Nope.
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Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2007, 08:56:49 pm »
The english language is a piss poor, piece of shit way of communicating. It needs to be raped, murdered and set on fire before it's any use to anybody.

This is why they built scotland.  :lulz:

It needs to be raped, murdered, set on fire, and then gotten drunk via drinks served in skulls with umbrellas!

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