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Re: Taboo Soup
« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2007, 06:14:39 pm »

The problem isn't distribution. The problem is we lost the basic skills it takes to feed ourselves or family. We're dependent on someone else to feed us, regardless of what social factors lead us to this point

Because there's enough free range resources for 6,500,000,000 people to be hunter gatherers.

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Re: Taboo Soup
« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2007, 06:51:45 pm »

The problem isn't distribution. The problem is we lost the basic skills it takes to feed ourselves or family. We're dependent on someone else to feed us, regardless of what social factors lead us to this point

Because there's enough free range resources for 6,500,000,000 people to be hunter gatherers.

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Ok, are just gonna be an ass, or you gonna actually contribute somthing to this thread?

I'm thinking the earth can't support 6 million people the way it is now, so evolving back into hunter gather societies isn't that crazy once you start clipping down the fences and let the animals fuck each other the natural way.

What you presenting here is a therory that isn't much more educated than my own. And don't kid yourself, it is just a therory.

Either way, somthing's gotta give in order to get this place back into shape.

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Re: Taboo Soup
« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2007, 06:53:15 pm »
Why does an agrarian society indicate that "this place is out of shape"?
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Re: Taboo Soup
« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2007, 06:54:54 pm »
Ok, are just gonna be an ass, or you gonna actually contribute somthing to this thread?

I'm thinking the earth can't support 6 million people the way it is now, so evolving back into hunter gather societies isn't that crazy once you start clipping down the fences and let the animals fuck each other the natural way.

What you presenting here is a therory that isn't much more educated than my own. And don't kid yourself, it is just a therory.

Either way, somthing's gotta give in order to get this place back into shape.

Was that supposed to be 6 billion or did you really mean 6 million.  Either way, what is your evidence for this assertion?
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Re: Taboo Soup
« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2007, 06:58:29 pm »
I'm thinking the earth can't support 6 million people the way it is now, so evolving back into hunter gather societies isn't that crazy once you start clipping down the fences and let the animals fuck each other the natural way.

(assuming you meant 6 billion)

so if 6.7x109 is too much according to you, how would "evolving back into hunter/gatherer" solve this and how would you propose setting this process into motion?
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« Reply #50 on: May 31, 2007, 07:07:49 pm »

Ok, are just gonna be an ass, or you gonna actually contribute somthing to this thread?

Both.  So far, you haven't asked to be treated decently.  In fact, you've demanded the opposite.


I'm thinking the earth can't support 6 million people the way it is now, so evolving back into hunter gather societies isn't that crazy once you start clipping down the fences and let the animals fuck each other the natural way.

Huh?  So, you suggest that we chop out 90% of the food, and that will solve the food issue?


What you presenting here is a therory that isn't much more educated than my own. And don't kid yourself, it is just a therory.

What the fuck are you talking about?  Are you saying it's just a theory that the earth can't support 6.5 billion humans as hunter/gatherers?  Please tell me you're joking. 


Either way, somthing's gotta give in order to get this place back into shape.

It's always funny watching someone try to impose order on primates.
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Re: Taboo Soup
« Reply #51 on: May 31, 2007, 07:08:36 pm »
Why does an agrarian society indicate that "this place is out of shape"?

Har har!  I wonder if he wants to tell us how much fun the dieback would be.
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Re: Taboo Soup
« Reply #52 on: May 31, 2007, 07:14:41 pm »
Chant it with me:

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« Reply #53 on: May 31, 2007, 07:17:06 pm »
Chant it with me:

"Eleven out of Twelve!  Think about the Dolphins!"

And, of course, Lamenite gets to be only of the lucky twelves.

But we have to do this.

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McDonalds, if you think about it, is the PERFECT example of life/lifestyles in the late 20th/early 21st century. Pink slime shaped like chicken nuggets, giant lawsuit-happy corporations suing people for using the prefix "Mc" no matter what the circumstances, marketing aimed at small children (Ronald, etc) to form life-long associations with the product, and the abysmally-effective "I'M LOVING IT" marketing ploy aimed at maintaining that association into the person's adult life...With the advertisement showing skinny, attractive people while in reality the AVERAGE customer is 45 pounds overweight.

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« Reply #54 on: May 31, 2007, 07:18:15 pm »
OK Lam, i'm tottally confused by this now, and I'm the master of toolboxery AND fuzzy thinking.

Specifically, what do YOU think is the answer to this "problem" (I'm still not clear what the problem even is...)

Also, yes, it would be good if every man woman and child knew how to go out and prepare a meal for themselves from natural resources. Especially if they didn't have to pay for anything, except payment in the form of taking the time to do it.

However the level of specialisation evident in what we like to call civilisation is what created so many things we have today, teh internets, cell phones, pizza hut and various others.

Are you a primitivist? Should we go out and kill all our own food? Or are you just saying we should know how to, in case something Really Bad (TM) happens? As has been mentioned previously, our survival instinct will let us eat anything, if we have to.

Really, my beef with "Civilisation" just now isn't the loss of individual skills, it's the slave labour mentality of sleep, work, eat, TV, sleep. Maybe you'll get a ride once in a while. Not that I don't personally know how to kill cook and eat a rabid yak.

Why shouldn't you "have" to outsmart someone? It's the only real weapon any of us has, or have ever had thorugh human history, and presumably pre-history. At the end of the day, the strongest and fittest survive, and our intellect is what ultimately allows us to recognise this, and use it to our advantage.

And SO, to sum up my POV: Specialisation is GOOD. Killing things for food and profit is FUN, but not NECESSARY. And outsmarting people is the best thing you can do. Evar.

P.S. Most people are stupid, the ones who aren't are usually just kidding themselves.


There is nothing "primitive" about living in balance with nature. The problem is: this Aritificial lifestyle we engage in everyday. Like you siad: wake up, take a shit, got to work, stuff your face, watch tv, drink a beer, and sleep. And maybe get out on the weekend for some entertainment.

We can both see that this lifestyle isn't very fulfilling.

Taboo foods are part of the issue. It's a control mechanism (input by ourselves, aliens, the government, nazi ninjas, who knows) that we conform to. Cut just one of these from your diet- beef,pork, or chicken. Then just watch the effect it has on your life and  how much you depend on these 3 types of meat.(i'm assuming your not a vegan)

It's highly improbable that people will ever go back to hunting and gathering, but that doesn't mean society needs to continue to function on it's current coarse. Alternitive ideas need to be explored before our children are fucked over for good.
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« Reply #55 on: May 31, 2007, 07:22:04 pm »
I'm thinking you've read too much Paul Ehlrich
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« Reply #56 on: May 31, 2007, 07:22:29 pm »
Ok, are just gonna be an ass, or you gonna actually contribute somthing to this thread?

I'm thinking the earth can't support 6 million people the way it is now, so evolving back into hunter gather societies isn't that crazy once you start clipping down the fences and let the animals fuck each other the natural way.

What you presenting here is a therory that isn't much more educated than my own. And don't kid yourself, it is just a therory.

Either way, somthing's gotta give in order to get this place back into shape.

Was that supposed to be 6 billion or did you really mean 6 million.  Either way, what is your evidence for this assertion?

You got me there. I meant whatever you meant, Okay?

6,000,000
6,500,000,000
neither number is an accurate display of the world's population so your point is moot.


Your asking me for evidence for my assertion, but where's the evidence for yours?

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« Reply #57 on: May 31, 2007, 07:22:51 pm »

There is nothing "primitive" about living in balance with nature.

We are in balance with nature.  We're tool-using primates.  We are doing what tool-using primates DO.

Why must you insist that we act in an unnatural way?

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Re: Taboo Soup
« Reply #58 on: May 31, 2007, 07:22:59 pm »
Lama, I disagree.

1. When has mankind ever lived in balance with nature? [edit: I like TGRR's answer better on this one.]

2. I assume you'd want to keep our current level of technology.  Please describe how to balance this with your ideas.

3. Please don't paint all of humanity with your broad brush of the Working Rat.

4. Pre-packaged meat is a control mechanism?  More detail, with examples, especially as to waht is being controlled.

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« Reply #59 on: May 31, 2007, 07:23:35 pm »



6,500,000,000
neither number is an accurate display of the world's population so your point is moot.


Your asking me for evidence for my assertion, but where's the evidence for yours?

Yeah, there's only 12 of us.  :lulz:
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McDonalds, if you think about it, is the PERFECT example of life/lifestyles in the late 20th/early 21st century. Pink slime shaped like chicken nuggets, giant lawsuit-happy corporations suing people for using the prefix "Mc" no matter what the circumstances, marketing aimed at small children (Ronald, etc) to form life-long associations with the product, and the abysmally-effective "I'M LOVING IT" marketing ploy aimed at maintaining that association into the person's adult life...With the advertisement showing skinny, attractive people while in reality the AVERAGE customer is 45 pounds overweight.

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