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How full of shit is Peter Levenda?
« on: February 01, 2008, 11:04:00 pm »
That's not a rhetorical question, by the way, its an honest enquiry.

For those who don't know, Levenda was the man behind the Simon Necronomicon, the first faked version of the book bearing Lovecraft's name.  He naturally denies it (and more interestingly, denies it is the same Necronomicon Lovecraft wrote about, but is the book he took the name from), and has spun an interesting tale about spies and monks and international theft which is currently being made into a book, which will probably be entertaining reading once it is done.

But he also wrote some apparently serious books, such as the Unholy Alliance series, which documents the role of the occult in Nazi Germany, the German transplants from Operation Paperclip who went to work for the CIA and the role of the occult in the history of America.  I was reading an interview he did with Tracy Twyman, and he certainly seemd to know his stuff.  And then he ruined it by mentioning a Nazi-Voodoo-ism (possibly Obeah or Hoodoo) mix going on in Chile, which, while theoretically possible, is stretching credibility a lot.

So, has anyone read the guy, or have any knowledge of him?  How seriously should he be taken?  He clearly does impressive amounts of research, but he's got a fair bit of mischief in him as well, so I wonder...

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Re: How full of shit is Peter Levenda?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2008, 03:15:07 am »
I think this is the same guy who made some tenuous connections to prove that a former Pope was a member of the OTO.

I don't know how true that it is. Makes me laugh to think about,  however.

Not familiar with this guy's work beyond browsing a little through his recent 'Papal Magic' book.
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Re: How full of shit is Peter Levenda?
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2008, 01:54:32 pm »
But he also wrote some apparently serious books, such as the Unholy Alliance series, which documents the role of the occult in Nazi Germany, the German transplants from Operation Paperclip who went to work for the CIA and the role of the occult in the history of America.  I was reading an interview he did with Tracy Twyman, and he certainly seemd to know his stuff.  And then he ruined it by mentioning a Nazi-Voodoo-ism (possibly Obeah or Hoodoo) mix going on in Chile, which, while theoretically possible, is stretching credibility a lot.

that about says it all
his book unholy Alliance is good enough to read
as he at least knows all the main characters, expecially those predating the Society of Thule
but he does tend to take theories and jump to conclusions quickly
expecially with Nazi involvement in Central America

I occassionaly have read some of his blog in passing interest
http://sinisterforces.info/blog/index.php?/authors/2-Peter-Levenda
but not enough to really comment
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Re: How full of shit is Peter Levenda?
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2008, 03:06:24 pm »
Ooh, bookmarked.

Central America and Naziism is an odd topic anyway.  Very hard to find serious research on what went on down there....but yeah, if he's gonna make the assertions, I hope he has at least plausible reasons for doing so.  It'd be disappointing if Unholy Alliance turned out to be another half true, half fictional account from Levenda.

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Re: How full of shit is Peter Levenda?
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2017, 10:51:27 pm »
Bump, this guy must like googling himself, he is the top search for the forum this month with 120 click throughs to the forum

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Re: How full of shit is Peter Levenda?
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2017, 11:43:46 pm »
What pisses me off is having to deal with all of the cognitive dissonance this guy generates. Feels like any truth gets obfuscated for the sake of sensationalism. Then I'm stuck arguing with people about how a stealth post WW-I- (yes, 1, just last night) NAZI traversal of N.America is both insufficient and mostly incorrect to explain anything.

Even if the author in question may not have made that specific claim, he might as well have. Initially I thought it was all fun and games. Now not so much. Even if the material is not directly toxic to you, it can be once it passes through someone else which which you come in contact: victimization by proxy.
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Re: How full of shit is Peter Levenda?
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2017, 11:11:46 pm »
If he wrote the Fakeronomicon that's his credibility gone right there
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Re: How full of shit is Peter Levenda?
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2017, 01:33:32 am »
There should still be a black-box warning on the cover regarding the dangers of confusing primary through tertiary sources, I proclaim, from my extensive repertoire of hearsay on said author. Others are clearly not so exceptionally discerning. My condolences for the passing of his relative Lionel, survived by second-cousin Sylvia O'Donnell
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Re: How full of shit is Peter Levenda?
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2017, 04:12:38 am »
Bump, this guy must like googling himself, he is the top search for the forum this month with 120 click throughs to the forum

If I google Peter Levenda, this thread is the fourth hit. I wonder if he was mentioned on TV or something?

For you people stopping in from google - this is a much better thread about Peter Levenda


Also, look at this guy:


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Re: How full of shit is Peter Levenda?
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2017, 03:02:41 pm »
Going by his eyes, I'm going to say full of shit, but completely believing it.
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