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Re: Creativity in a Cultural Wasteland
« Reply #75 on: June 26, 2008, 05:40:40 pm »
Final word: If I post a free download, it's free.

However,  you're not aloud to enjoy THAT aspect of it.  While you're listening to it for free, you should dwell on what a freeloader you are.

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Re: Creativity in a Cultural Wasteland
« Reply #76 on: June 26, 2008, 05:48:32 pm »
Final word: If I post a free download, it's free.

However,  you're not aloud to enjoy THAT aspect of it.  While you're listening to it for free, you should dwell on what a freeloader you are.



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Re: Creativity in a Cultural Wasteland
« Reply #77 on: June 26, 2008, 06:01:10 pm »
(huh what? did you hear anything? me neither.)

000, no worries.  If you've noticed, over here and at poee.co, I've got dozens of pieces up and about, for free.  When I finally get my "Earfatigue presents: Gerund" project going (the one that will hopefully allow me to quit my job and start making money off of my work), I'll be posting the tracks here for free as well -- with the hope that some of y'all will help pimp my name into the web0sphere.

well, as i said, you can count on me for the pimping! :wink:
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Re: Creativity in a Cultural Wasteland
« Reply #78 on: June 26, 2008, 09:12:14 pm »

i was just afraid that, somewhere adding in voluntary $1 payments, even starting as a joke or sociololgical experiment, might throw a wrench in those gears, that are really starting to get up to speed, it seems. but maybe i'm just imagining nonexistant bears on the road or something.

third, in my music collection, i have a special directory labeled "discordiania", where i store all of the discordian audio productions from these fora (several recorded rants and other stuff), and i must say, this one is pretty much the best in there so far. i played it to some friends yesterday, and they liked it as well (except they didn't have the patience to listen to all the words). it's really good, nice tune, nice beats, good work! (btw RWHN's "Spag" makes a good second, music-wise)

000, no worries.  If you've noticed, over here and at poee.co, I've got dozens of pieces up and about, for free.  When I finally get my "Earfatigue presents: Gerund" project going (the one that will hopefully allow me to quit my job and start making money off of my work), I'll be posting the tracks here for free as well -- with the hope that some of y'all will help pimp my name into the web0sphere.


Final word: If I post a free download, it's free.

I'd still like to send you some HIMEOBS stickers ...
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Re: Creativity in a Cultural Wasteland
« Reply #79 on: June 26, 2008, 09:22:11 pm »
You're just trying to get my home address.



It won't work...

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Re: Creativity in a Cultural Wasteland
« Reply #80 on: June 26, 2008, 09:45:32 pm »
You're just trying to get my home address.



It won't work...

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Well, if you're that paranoid, I could talk to the printing company and you could just go through them. They keep files on hand for reprints.
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Re: Creativity in a Cultural Wasteland
« Reply #81 on: June 27, 2008, 12:16:45 am »
Daruko, let me just rehash what happened here:
LMNO: "Here's an awesome track for free. Oh, and haha, here's my paypal if you wanna gimme $0.99, haha"
Payne: "Here you go"
LMNO: "hehe I only get liek 60c because PP are asshats hehe"
Daruko: "I SHALL NOT PAY FOR YOUR CRAP CAPITALIST PIGHOLE!"

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Re: Creativity in a Cultural Wasteland
« Reply #82 on: June 27, 2008, 02:48:00 am »
i'll pay you precisely as much as i would charge you for downloading one of my songs lmno.

that is, squat.   :D

now if you wanted an imaged CD, complete with cover art and inserts, I'd charge you for the materials, of course.

line 1 = free for me, free for you yay

line 2 = free free free

line 3 = i'd have to compensate you if you spent money sharing that with me

and as far as your interpretations go...  suck it.  oh yeah, i said that.
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Re: Creativity in a Cultural Wasteland
« Reply #83 on: June 27, 2008, 08:29:51 am »
i'll pay you precisely as much as i would charge you for downloading one of my songs lmno.

that is, squat.   :D

now if you wanted an imaged CD, complete with cover art and inserts, I'd charge you for the materials, of course.

Yeah, FUCK YOU LMNO! I'm going to dl and enjoy the FUCK out of that recording but I'll be damned if I'm going to pay you shit for it! I'm not going to not pay you quietly, either, I'm going to TELL you about it so you KNOW HOW MUCH I'M NOT PAYING YOU SQUAT to enjoy your work!

My work too! :'(

Even if, as I said earlier, LMNO put more actual effort into his version.....  :p

And I would refuse payment on the grounds that I didn't actually use any valuable resources to create it in the first place.

It was your work too, ennit? And damn fine work at that.

That's it, LMNO, you have to send Payne a check for half.
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Re: Creativity in a Cultural Wasteland
« Reply #84 on: June 27, 2008, 08:39:28 am »
Daruko, I think that the central point has flown right by you; it's got nothing to do with piracy in this case, it's about saying something jerky for no apparent reason.

Maybe you're just unaware that saying something like that is rude, tacky, and assholish. That's why people were trying to tell you it is.

LMNO made a JOKE about payment, and put his email addy out there. Some people listened to the piece and evidently thought to themselves "Shit, I like this enough to send the sap a dollar". Some people didn't. Doesn't matter. It was the "I'm not paying you squat for this" that DIDN'T NEED TO BE SAID that got you criticized.

As for what LMNO's equipment cost him, you opened that can of worms when you started talking about recouping costs.

The lesson here for you is, don't say belittling or rude things to people without expecting to have them taken as belittling or rude. Haven't we been over this before? Just because inside your head you know it's a joke doesn't mean anyone else does. Just because your IRL friends know you well enough to get that it's meant to be a joke doesn't mean anyone online does. Learn to use the fucking winky emote or something, for fucks sake.
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Re: Creativity in a Cultural Wasteland
« Reply #85 on: June 27, 2008, 09:36:02 am »
FUCK YOU I HAVE ASPBERGERS AND AM NOT BOUND BY YOUR FASCIST INTERNET SOCIAL CONVENTIONS.

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Re: Creativity in a Cultural Wasteland
« Reply #86 on: June 27, 2008, 10:49:03 am »
FUCK YOU RIGHT BACK! I DONT HAVE TEH ASSBURGERS, IM JUST A CUNT BUT THE SAME RULES APPLY  :evil:
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Re: Creativity in a Cultural Wasteland
« Reply #87 on: June 27, 2008, 11:43:11 am »
I'd like to interrupt this pissing match to point out there looks to be a pretty happening rap thread on 420chan's Music forum:

http://img.420chan.org/m/res/47369.html

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Re: Creativity in a Cultural Wasteland
« Reply #88 on: June 27, 2008, 11:48:42 am »
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Re: Creativity in a Cultural Wasteland
« Reply #89 on: June 27, 2008, 12:31:06 pm »
Daruko, I think that the central point has flown right by you; it's got nothing to do with piracy in this case, it's about saying something jerky for no apparent reason.

Maybe you're just unaware that saying something like that is rude, tacky, and assholish. That's why people were trying to tell you it is.

LMNO made a JOKE about payment, and put his email addy out there. Some people listened to the piece and evidently thought to themselves "Shit, I like this enough to send the sap a dollar". Some people didn't. Doesn't matter. It was the "I'm not paying you squat for this" that DIDN'T NEED TO BE SAID that got you criticized.

As for what LMNO's equipment cost him, you opened that can of worms when you started talking about recouping costs.

The lesson here for you is, don't say belittling or rude things to people without expecting to have them taken as belittling or rude. Haven't we been over this before? Just because inside your head you know it's a joke doesn't mean anyone else does. Just because your IRL friends know you well enough to get that it's meant to be a joke doesn't mean anyone online does. Learn to use the fucking winky emote or something, for fucks sake.

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