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Re: How to write
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2008, 07:14:02 pm »
Do you come here to converse, nB?  Or to impose your ridiculous opinions on others?

I'm seriously interested in the answer.

Truth:

I used to come here to converse, but ever since I made some over-the-top post about why Philip K. Dick can't write worth shit and most of the active members decided that everything I say is automatically wrong - you must admit, it's a hilarious coincidence that people began to flame every post I've made immediately since that thread - I pretty much just drop by to fuck with you guys when I feel like procrastinating.

I feel kind of bad about the small handful of regulars who I do have some respect for, but I'm seriously convinced that I could have more interesting conversations on 4chan than with most of you. They have all the same memes, too, and their general disdain for all major political candidates is somehow refreshing compared pd's (homo)erotic obsession with Obama.

Holy shit.

Is 4chan more tolerable than you?

I wouldn't know, I've never been to 4chan, but you can probably ask IANAR for an opinion.

I think the problem is that a lot of people just don't like you.  When I don't like someone I tend to not engage them in an overly serious manner, I tend to fuck with them a bit.  It seems like that is rather common around here.

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Re: How to write
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2008, 07:19:12 pm »
Aw, it's just that it's so fun to fuck with you, and your whining, pathetic attempts at thought.

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Re: How to write
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2008, 07:21:01 pm »
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Re: How to write
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2008, 07:23:13 pm »
Truth:

I used to come here to converse, but ever since I made some over-the-top post about why Philip K. Dick can't write worth shit and most of the active members decided that everything I say is automatically wrong

No... I came to the conclusion that everything you say is automatically wrong LONG before that, on the basis that just about everything you post is stupid.
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Re: How to write
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2008, 11:10:51 pm »
Yeah, I distinctly remember nB being flamed a lot for saying dumbass shit long before that pathetic attempt at social experiment/troll/conversing.

wait, conversing? it must have been an attempt at conversing right? cause you said you stopped after that thread?

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Re: How to write
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2008, 11:39:11 pm »
Or you could pull a Hunter S. Thompson and type out the Great Gatsby over and over again.

Or you could, oh, I don't know, actually learn the mechanics of writing (as an artist learns the mechanics of painting) and write something original.

Which I'm sure you learn from reading "On Writing" by Steven King lol

It helped to know that no reader likes excessive adverbs and over pretentious punctuation. Perhaps you are the exception?

The best point King had in his book was reading makes you a better writer and writing makes you a better reader. Language is a very malleable formula. If you know how the forumula works you can shape it for effect. Part of using the formula is understanding what works and what doesn't for particular audiences. Therefore, writers (especially sucessful writers) are useful sources of information on writing. Finnegan's Wake may be a classic, but if you are trying to reach a certain audience not so esoteric in their reading ability then a Joycean format is not the best way to go. Furthermore, Joycean style writing is a horrible format for a novel, because a good novel entraps the reader in their entertainment. This is known as flow.

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Re: How to write
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2008, 05:40:03 pm »
Yeah, I distinctly remember nB being flamed a lot for saying dumbass shit long before that pathetic attempt at social experiment/troll/conversing.

wait, conversing? it must have been an attempt at conversing right? cause you said you stopped after that thread?

hehehe

I don't remember this.

Citations?
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Re: How to write
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2008, 11:02:17 pm »
Like, let's say we already checked and didn't find anything. :roll:
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Re: How to write
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2008, 01:34:13 am »
The best point King had in his book was reading makes you a better writer and writing makes you a better reader. Language is a very malleable formula. If you know how the forumula works you can shape it for effect.

When reading the work of a great writer, I understand things about writing I didn't before and don't after (unless I crystallize that knowledge by applying it).

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Re: How to write
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2009, 04:55:41 am »
 :lulz: This thread is a wonerful read! :D
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Re: How to write
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2009, 02:07:06 pm »
http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1808812/9155768/

Its about 8 gig...I have managed to whittle that down to about 130 MB, through judicious picking and choosing.
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Re: How to write
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2009, 06:22:13 pm »
Hmm, anyone have stuff on writing academic papers?
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Re: How to write
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2009, 12:40:44 pm »
Yes.

I'll upload it on the weekend.
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Re: How to write
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2009, 06:43:58 am »
How to write: Write, like, a lot.

Slightly less tersely:

1. Love words, love language
2. Build a good vocabulary
3. Read a lot (this helps with 2)
4. Say exactly what you mean (2 helps with this)
5. Use only as many words as are necessary to get your message across
6. The message includes the feeling or tone you want to get across (also known as the Faulkner exemption)
7. Write a lot (it takes ten thousand hours to master something, supposedly)

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Re: How to write
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2009, 06:51:19 am »
Spoken as a true necromancer.
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