Well, a lot of people do get sick of it. There haven't been as many ridiculously long flounces as of late, but I attribute that to mere addiction.
there actually have been a lot of silent flounces, or just decreased posting
I've talked to a lot of people over the last few months who feel like this place's vibe is not conclusive to the kinds of discussions/community they want to participate in. I am going to get myself in trouble for naming names, but off the top of my head - eve, burns, fred, badge, kel, enki, rumckle, net, cainad, captain fruitopia, ratatosk... definitely more.. All of them have mentioned to me how the negativity and shitting on others discourages them from posting. Or how they got frustrated that a potentially interesting thread was reduced to telling people why they're wrong or stupid. I also don't feel like it's something I can do anything about, talking about it tends to make people defensive, and frankly I'm already sorry for bringing it up.
Frutopia? That besmirches the solemn dignity of my name
Well, I was hoping to stay out of this thread, and it would have passed me by altogether if it weren't for Uncle Charley.. but since my private thoughts have been used-by-proxy it would be cowardly not to say something. I can't deal with drama. Hell, I can't even troll for more than a little while before all the pretend drama gets to me. I used to think I could
deal with it, but then I noticed a strong correlation between drama and my not being as patient a husband and father as I want to be. That sucks, but it's not a hard choice to make.
So now I avoid drama, by avoiding drama
. Okay, I went over that a little quick, so let me back up. If there's some drama in a thread and my involvement isn't going to magically cure it - i.e. all of the fucking time
- I just... avoid it. No, no, I've rushed through that again haven't I? Right so, I noticed that pretty much all of the fights and drama I got myself involved in here was... when I was busy complaining about the drama.
I am the people I was warning you about!
Two separate issues - Horrorology and Negativity. Yeah, it pisses me off sometimes when a pet optimistic narrative gets crushed, but I don't see that as much a function of Negativity, as much as I do the pure strength of the writing that's been happening with The Spider Project and Horrorology. A forum has bottlenecks and hubs through which concepts and ideas flow. Can you have two strong opposing concepts in the same forum? Maybe. Can you develop them simultaneously?
Negativity. Meh. Forums flow. I'll complain about it to anyone who'll listen when it gets bad. That's how
they flow. I don't like dog-piling, but sometimes it is necessary. But the reason I don't think I ever complained about Roger manning the Intro thread battlements is because without such efforts I think PD.com would be quickly overrun by a pineal horde. Stabbity indeed. It's a valued service, and I believe I said as much in our chat, Cram.
It's a complex, sensitive issue, which sprays more shit than a diarrhoetic drama llama, and exactly the sort I've been trying to avoid.
I only want to say one thing more - I haven't spoken to any other of The Named, but please don't assume anything about them based on this.