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Short rant on CLIMATE CHANGE.
« on: January 24, 2009, 08:43:07 pm »
You probably wouldn't expect this from me. No, usually I'm the calm centered one about scientific inquiry (provided creationists aren't involved).

But I've had it up to here with going to the earth science news on CNN.com, and EVERY LAST FUCKING ARTICLE is on climate change.

FUCK, people. Isn't there something in biology or geology or any of the other so called "earth sciences" that you could draw on and make an interesting article out of besides this continuous log of fearmongering BULLSHIT?!?

I don't see anything useful in any of this. Sure, I believe the climatologists with their current observations of the planet, and there is change and variation in the climate. I think they are smart people doing good science. I think they are probably right about global warming and cooling events, and I think they are probably right that human population has had some effect upon these events.

I am just so FUCKING TIRED of hearing everyone and their DOG'S opinions on this. Everyone is suddenly a scientist with a degree in toxicology, sociology, anthropology, paleogeography, geology, biology, ecology and climatology when it comes to CLIMATE CHANGE. I've only got a degree in one of those things and I STILL don't consider myself qualified to draft an opinion for or against it. I've studied hydrology and limnology and geology and I still don't have a clue how the climatologist's model's work, and these JOURNALISTS with degrees in COMMUNICATION, think they have a fucking clue?

This isn't a game of "whoever talks about it the most makes it the case". Climatology isn't politics, it isn't morality, it certainly isn't based upon some opinions of some NUMBNUTS reporter from hugatreefucktheman.org. This is real science, with real observations and real models, not some pony ride you can drive so you feel good about yourself and so you can say over and over and over "NOT IN MY FUCKING BACKYARD". This isn't a game of WHO CAN WE BLAME NEXT? This isn't a game at all.

And whats worse than people turning opinions into "science", is people spamming news articles about "science" into more fearmongering bullshit. I won't have it, not anymore. Next dipshit that walks up to me and starts talking about the melting of the polar icecaps and the rising of the oceans and the increase in storms and ALL KINDS OF THIS FEARFUL SHIT I am going to punch them in the face, folks. I'll stick with scientists for science.

Or fucking bump me off.
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Re: Short rant on CLIMATE CHANGE.
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2009, 08:45:48 pm »
All I know is that summer in Chicago was warm in 1980, and absolutely PUNISHING in 2003.

I also remember when we had, you know, ICE at the NORTH POLE.

Are my observations scientific?  No.  Do I give a fuck?  No. 
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Re: Short rant on CLIMATE CHANGE.
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2009, 08:49:10 pm »
All I know is that summer in Chicago was warm in 1980, and absolutely PUNISHING in 2003.

I also remember when we had, you know, ICE at the NORTH POLE.

Are my observations scientific?  No.  Do I give a fuck?  No. 

Was a rant against journalists, mostly.

I knew this was going to be unpopular, but I wrote it anyway.
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Re: Short rant on CLIMATE CHANGE.
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2009, 08:56:10 pm »
All I know is that summer in Chicago was warm in 1980, and absolutely PUNISHING in 2003.

I also remember when we had, you know, ICE at the NORTH POLE.

Are my observations scientific?  No.  Do I give a fuck?  No. 

Was a rant against journalists, mostly.

I knew this was going to be unpopular, but I wrote it anyway.

Look, all I know is what I have observed.  As far as getting mad at talking heads for parroting a hot button issue, well, get mad at the sun for rising.

What bothers me is how many "scientists" oppose what's smacking us right in the face, either because they whored themselves out to Exxon, or because it's "fashionable" now to ignore what's blatantly happening, much as it's "fashionable" now for potheads and Wiccans to be extreme right neocons.

For whatever reason, the world IS, in fact, warming up.  I do not need a geologist or meteorologist to tell me this.  And if I can see it, so can the producers of whatever talk program is pissing you off.
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Re: Short rant on CLIMATE CHANGE.
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2009, 09:32:29 pm »
You probably wouldn't expect this from me. No, usually I'm the calm centered one about scientific inquiry (provided creationists aren't involved).

But I've had it up to here with going to the earth science news on CNN.com, and EVERY LAST FUCKING ARTICLE is on climate change.

FUCK, people. Isn't there something in biology or geology or any of the other so called "earth sciences" that you could draw on and make an interesting article out of besides this continuous log of fearmongering BULLSHIT?!?

I don't see anything useful in any of this. Sure, I believe the climatologists with their current observations of the planet, and there is change and variation in the climate. I think they are smart people doing good science. I think they are probably right about global warming and cooling events, and I think they are probably right that human population has had some effect upon these events.

I am just so FUCKING TIRED of hearing everyone and their DOG'S opinions on this. Everyone is suddenly a scientist with a degree in toxicology, sociology, anthropology, paleogeography, geology, biology, ecology and climatology when it comes to CLIMATE CHANGE. I've only got a degree in one of those things and I STILL don't consider myself qualified to draft an opinion for or against it. I've studied hydrology and limnology and geology and I still don't have a clue how the climatologist's model's work, and these JOURNALISTS with degrees in COMMUNICATION, think they have a fucking clue?

This isn't a game of "whoever talks about it the most makes it the case". Climatology isn't politics, it isn't morality, it certainly isn't based upon some opinions of some NUMBNUTS reporter from hugatreefucktheman.org. This is real science, with real observations and real models, not some pony ride you can drive so you feel good about yourself and so you can say over and over and over "NOT IN MY FUCKING BACKYARD". This isn't a game of WHO CAN WE BLAME NEXT? This isn't a game at all.

And whats worse than people turning opinions into "science", is people spamming news articles about "science" into more fearmongering bullshit. I won't have it, not anymore. Next dipshit that walks up to me and starts talking about the melting of the polar icecaps and the rising of the oceans and the increase in storms and ALL KINDS OF THIS FEARFUL SHIT I am going to punch them in the face, folks. I'll stick with scientists for science.

Or fucking bump me off.

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Re: Short rant on CLIMATE CHANGE.
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2009, 09:57:26 pm »
Alls i knows is that it was 80 degrees out yesterday in the middle of January, and that's global warming!  but today, it's only 48 degrees out, so the global warmings must be over....
I don't need no sciiiiiientist to tell me that, I'll tell you wut!!
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Re: Short rant on CLIMATE CHANGE.
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2009, 12:26:08 am »
Alls i knows is that it was 80 degrees out yesterday in the middle of January, and that's global warming!  but today, it's only 48 degrees out, so the global warmings must be over....
I don't need no sciiiiiientist to tell me that, I'll tell you wut!!
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HURR HURR HURR

And the North Pole melting is just a seasonal thing!

HURR HURR HURR
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Re: Short rant on CLIMATE CHANGE.
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2009, 03:09:06 am »
All I know is that summer in Chicago was warm in 1980, and absolutely PUNISHING in 2003.

I also remember when we had, you know, ICE at the NORTH POLE.

Are my observations scientific?  No.  Do I give a fuck?  No. 

Was a rant against journalists, mostly.

I knew this was going to be unpopular, but I wrote it anyway.

Look, all I know is what I have observed.  As far as getting mad at talking heads for parroting a hot button issue, well, get mad at the sun for rising.

What bothers me is how many "scientists" oppose what's smacking us right in the face, either because they whored themselves out to Exxon, or because it's "fashionable" now to ignore what's blatantly happening, much as it's "fashionable" now for potheads and Wiccans to be extreme right neocons.

For whatever reason, the world IS, in fact, warming up.  I do not need a geologist or meteorologist to tell me this.  And if I can see it, so can the producers of whatever talk program is pissing you off.

This was a rant. Thats all.
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Re: Short rant on CLIMATE CHANGE.
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2009, 03:18:50 am »
All I know is that summer in Chicago was warm in 1980, and absolutely PUNISHING in 2003.

I also remember when we had, you know, ICE at the NORTH POLE.

Are my observations scientific?  No.  Do I give a fuck?  No. 

Was a rant against journalists, mostly.

I knew this was going to be unpopular, but I wrote it anyway.
I approve of ranting about journalists.  Leave them to make scientific methodology into a political process.

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Re: Short rant on CLIMATE CHANGE.
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2009, 03:26:05 am »
Fun fact: CNN axed their entire science news division and consider their "planet earth" folk to be all the science they need.
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2009, 03:29:24 am »
I'm actually a bit conflicted about that.  My first reaction was 'fuck you CNN, science is newsworthy and interesting' but then I realized that I don't even trust CNN to get it right in the first place.  I guess the question is; do I prefer poor science coverage over no mainstream science coverage?

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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2009, 04:10:07 am »
I'm actually a bit conflicted about that.  My first reaction was 'fuck you CNN, science is newsworthy and interesting' but then I realized that I don't even trust CNN to get it right in the first place.  I guess the question is; do I prefer poor science coverage over no mainstream science coverage?

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Re: Short rant on CLIMATE CHANGE.
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2009, 04:14:10 am »
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2009, 09:25:20 am »
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Re: Short rant on CLIMATE CHANGE.
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2009, 09:59:25 am »
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