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Re: Life Changes
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2016, 04:05:22 pm »
That's one of the things that made me stop back in the day.

Personally, it's because I was smoking way more than I needed.

Like, instead of enjoying a few fingers of scotch, I'd down half a bottle. But with weed.

I've found that I can portion edibles in a more manageable way, and I've gotten old enough I don't need to prove anything to anyone.

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Re: Life Changes
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2016, 04:54:51 pm »
The experiment is still going strong, and as far as I can tell, the results are still promising.

One of the more amazing things I've learned is that I think I've spent the majority of the past decade suffering a low-grade hangover, which I "normalized" into the common state of things.

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Re: Life Changes
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2016, 04:57:18 pm »
That's one of the things that made me stop back in the day.

Personally, it's because I was smoking way more than I needed.

Like, instead of enjoying a few fingers of scotch, I'd down half a bottle. But with weed.

I've found that I can portion edibles in a more manageable way, and I've gotten old enough I don't need to prove anything to anyone.

Some people don't seem to have an internal brake when it comes to mind-altering substances, whether they are cigarettes or coffee or alcohol or weed. I am one of those people as well. Edibles help me reach a point of "stable high" that permits me to function and sleep almost normally, while minimizing my alcohol intake.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: Life Changes
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2016, 05:01:04 pm »
I kind of come and go with pot. Like I'll smoke regular for a bit then get bored with the headspace and quit for months or years but with booze it never gets boring.

I guess I have pot-brake but not booze brake  :)
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Re: Life Changes
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2016, 05:44:38 pm »
That's one of the things that made me stop back in the day.

Personally, it's because I was smoking way more than I needed.

Like, instead of enjoying a few fingers of scotch, I'd down half a bottle. But with weed.

I've found that I can portion edibles in a more manageable way, and I've gotten old enough I don't need to prove anything to anyone.

Some people don't seem to have an internal brake when it comes to mind-altering substances, whether they are cigarettes or coffee or alcohol or weed. I am one of those people as well. Edibles help me reach a point of "stable high" that permits me to function and sleep almost normally, while minimizing my alcohol intake.

Yeah, I fully realize what I've found is only what's working for me.  Other people react different ways to things.  I really don't want to become one of "those people". 

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Re: Life Changes
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2016, 09:09:51 pm »
Personally, I don't think of anyone as those people based on their intoxicant of choice.

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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2016, 03:06:56 am »
I went through a similar experience a few years ago - I went from drinking pretty much every day to a couple of years alcohol free by essentially swapping it out for weed.

I get annual urine tests at work that I am 90% sure are just for sugars etc but I  not taking the risk so I have 3 months in a year weed free - I am currently in that phase of the year.

For me, it is tempting to let being high become a constant during my waking hours and that's probably not an ideal situation. There are definitely drawbacks in cognition when being high becomes your new normal and then, when you arent, I become anxious and have no appetite for a couple of days.

When I can indulge again, in April, I plan on exercising a little more moderation and seeing how that goes.

Yeah, I don't like to be in an altered state during the day at all, it makes me useless. Fortunately I'm a total lightweight, so I can get by on like 1/4 of what a veteran stoner would consume.

I've had too much to drink many times since my son died, including last night and the night before and the night before that, and I need to break that habit before it sets in. I made it through my first year of school despite brutal near-daily hangovers, but I don't want to go back to that even if I could fumble through 400/500 level biology in a sickly daze. The last thing the kid would have wanted is for my life to be derailed over this.

I'm very glad that you already see the need to not try using alcohol overmuch. It's great for ventilation of repression, but actually a VERY BAD antidepressant. You need strong neurons to recover and re-write the reflexive thought patterns that are going to just keep hurting no matter what for a long time yet. I won't go so far as to say pot will inherently help with this, but it's better than booze on almost every level healthwise.

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Re: Life Changes
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2016, 03:24:55 am »
I get my drink on from time to time at celebrations, but I have a bad history of alcoholism on my mother's side and so don't incorporate it into my daily, or even monthly, lifestyle. It's an expensive option for me anyway because I'm freaking huge, genetically well adapted, and of robust health prone to quickly flushing toxins. Weed is not only more cost-effective for me it's also never, ever made me ill.

I once envisioned my best dream for myself in an ideal universe as being medicinal pot-farmer and part-time scholar. Just live my life learning and writing. Think I'm going to try and make it actually happen. I'm a free agent now and there are ever more places I can make this a reality legally. I have plenty of just the right sort of friends to help me too.

I don't ever really get paranoid anymore, but the herb and I are old, beloved friends at this point in my life. I remember first trying it at about the age of 15. My bros and I would smoke during winter in an old, busted station wagon that sat in the driveway for years. We called it the Shamanmobile. It never moved, but you were definitely elsewhere when you stepped out of it let me tell you! I still remember the youngest and I running out in the dead of night into the muddy field behind the house looking for Great Coyote because we could hear them on on the wind.

We eventually turned back when one of us lost a shoe, I forget who, and the Coyotes sounded like they were having a laugh at our expense. Good times!
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Re: Life Changes
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2016, 07:00:56 pm »
Congrats on finding ways to curb the addiction(s)/habit(s)!  :)

Unfortunately, after first trying anything, I become addicted. Chemically. I am constantly fighting the urge to drink or smoke, especially if I'm around it.
After having a bad experience with a Cuban cigar (Put me on my ass for an hour. Deep depression and sick feeling the whole time. Had to lay down and could barely talk to my gf on the phone), I still feel the urge to buy a cigar or smoke a cigarette, or get a Black and Mild. I have to smoke every once in a while to gain some relief. But it makes me sick every single time I have tobacco.

It doesn't help that my sense of smell and taste are almost completely gone (I'm 20, and I can barely tell a difference between the smell of a shitty bathroom, and the smell of a Yankee Candle Shop.), enabling alcohol and smoke to go down like water and oxygen. I have to swish whiskey around in my mouth to get the taste for it. It also doesn't help that it hardly has an effect on me when I drink, so there's not much putting a limit on the alcohol except my own Will or the supply.

Even though I hate the high of anything other than Reg, I feel like I have to smoke weed every time I'm around it. Just so happens my cousin always has Loud. Goodbye rest of my night when he comes over.  :lol:

Save watching my mother get tossed around when I was little, I don't really have anything to smoke or drink for. Just a bunch of chemical bullshit that makes it all hard to avoid.


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Re: Life Changes
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2016, 07:21:08 pm »
RE OP: That's awesome! I'm always happy to hear it when people make that switch because I think it makes for a happier life than just the booze.

I definitely need some kind of something and booze gets nasty fast.

Recently, I've been considering switching to CBD heavy, low THC weed. It seems to make me relaxed and less anxious without the high interfering with my mental processes. I want to get a med card and make 5lbs of cbd honey for tea/toddies so I can nix the smoking part.

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Re: Life Changes
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2016, 08:42:21 pm »
Tell me more about this CBD of which you speak.

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« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2016, 09:00:28 pm »
Tell me more about this CBD of which you speak.


Basically, my understanding is, the primary active parts of weed are THC and two cannabanoids, CBDs. THC is the only one the US is permitted to study, so we don't knoe a lot about the others. However, medical patients reports all of the known benefits without the paranoia or euphoria that THC provides.

High CBD bud is a lot like a muscle relaxer/Valium. I was worried I'd miss the high, and I'm not sure I can give it up 100%, but the CBD removes most of my symptoms. It feels like nothing in the way ibuprofen feels like nothing, it's the absence of symptoms that's the thing.

I could be wrong about a few of those points, I'm not well versed, but I know what I like. 
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Re: Life Changes
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2016, 09:10:36 pm »
Thanks for that. I'll keep an eye out.

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« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2016, 09:25:31 pm »
I went through a similar experience a few years ago - I went from drinking pretty much every day to a couple of years alcohol free by essentially swapping it out for weed.

I get annual urine tests at work that I am 90% sure are just for sugars etc but I  not taking the risk so I have 3 months in a year weed free - I am currently in that phase of the year.

For me, it is tempting to let being high become a constant during my waking hours and that's probably not an ideal situation. There are definitely drawbacks in cognition when being high becomes your new normal and then, when you arent, I become anxious and have no appetite for a couple of days.

When I can indulge again, in April, I plan on exercising a little more moderation and seeing how that goes.

Yeah, I don't like to be in an altered state during the day at all, it makes me useless. Fortunately I'm a total lightweight, so I can get by on like 1/4 of what a veteran stoner would consume.

I've had too much to drink many times since my son died, including last night and the night before and the night before that, and I need to break that habit before it sets in. I made it through my first year of school despite brutal near-daily hangovers, but I don't want to go back to that even if I could fumble through 400/500 level biology in a sickly daze. The last thing the kid would have wanted is for my life to be derailed over this.

I'm very glad that you already see the need to not try using alcohol overmuch. It's great for ventilation of repression, but actually a VERY BAD antidepressant. You need strong neurons to recover and re-write the reflexive thought patterns that are going to just keep hurting no matter what for a long time yet. I won't go so far as to say pot will inherently help with this, but it's better than booze on almost every level healthwise.

Well, I am a neurobiologist, so if I didn't know these things it would reflect pretty poorly on the $100k sunken into my education so far.
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« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2016, 09:43:30 pm »
Tell me more about this CBD of which you speak.


Basically, my understanding is, the primary active parts of weed are THC and two cannabanoids, CBDs. THC is the only one the US is permitted to study, so we don't knoe a lot about the others. However, medical patients reports all of the known benefits without the paranoia or euphoria that THC provides.

High CBD bud is a lot like a muscle relaxer/Valium. I was worried I'd miss the high, and I'm not sure I can give it up 100%, but the CBD removes most of my symptoms. It feels like nothing in the way ibuprofen feels like nothing, it's the absence of symptoms that's the thing.

I could be wrong about a few of those points, I'm not well versed, but I know what I like.

There are weird restrictions that are hard to get around, like; researchers can get pure THC oil, but not CBD or whole cannabis oil, for studies using rats in self-administration. Inhalation studies with rats (as opposed to IV studies, which researchers hate because nobody injects marijuana!) require using oils rather than the whole plant, for practical reasons involving not setting your lab on fire.

The CBD honey sticks definitely take the edge off the anxiety and the unsettled ache, but without messing me up or flat-out numbing me the way Xanax does. Interestingly, endocannabinoids are a mediator in the stress response, but nobody is exactly sure what exogenous CBD is doing because it doesn't seem to be targeting the same receptors.
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