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Re: GREYFACE LIVES! (And not where you think!)
« Reply #45 on: November 05, 2009, 04:59:00 pm »
Too often, people mistake being a Subgenius with having some sort of increased "intelligence."  This is a profound mistake.
As Rev. Stang said sometime recently, “The Conspiracy has mis-defined intelligence.  What counts is sense!  Sexual sense! Common sense! Sense of humor!  “Bob” is not smart.  What he is, is lucky!  “Bob” can be magic and you can't, because he doesn't know any better.  He walks the path of least resistance, and that is his path to Slack.  Slack is indefinable.  I can't tell you what Slack is, because only you know what Slack is to you.”
Stang, Ivan., prod. “#1224.”  Hour of Slack. Church of the SubGenius Radio Ministry. Fall 2009. Subgenius.com Subsite Radio. Web. 7 Oct. 2009. <http://subgenius.com/ts/hos.html>

So, you might stop trying to pin it down for everyone else.   :wink:
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Re: GREYFACE LIVES! (And not where you think!)
« Reply #46 on: November 05, 2009, 05:01:45 pm »
Yeah, but Stang can lick my bunghole, too.

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« Reply #47 on: November 05, 2009, 05:29:43 pm »
Too often, people mistake being a Subgenius with having some sort of increased "intelligence."  This is a profound mistake.
As Rev. Stang said sometime recently, “The Conspiracy has mis-defined intelligence.  What counts is sense!  Sexual sense! Common sense! Sense of humor!  “Bob” is not smart.  What he is, is lucky!  “Bob” can be magic and you can't, because he doesn't know any better.  He walks the path of least resistance, and that is his path to Slack.  Slack is indefinable.  I can't tell you what Slack is, because only you know what Slack is to you.”
Stang, Ivan., prod. “#1224.”  Hour of Slack. Church of the SubGenius Radio Ministry. Fall 2009. Subgenius.com Subsite Radio. Web. 7 Oct. 2009. <http://subgenius.com/ts/hos.html>

So, you might stop trying to pin it down for everyone else.   :wink:

Stang is a prize ass, and he regurgitated that from something he wrote in 1981.  Hell, even his new book contains nothing newer than 1994.  He and Phil Drummond and Ken DeVries had a great idea, but they ran out of juice.  They haven't done anything new since just after Clinton took office, and they actively slap down anyone who DOES try anything new on their newsgroup...except for DeVries (Nenslo), who tries to encourage it, when he isn't being bombarded by stalkers.

That's why it's so fortunate that the Church doesn't actually require any of them to function.
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Re: GREYFACE LIVES! (And not where you think!)
« Reply #48 on: November 05, 2009, 06:06:13 pm »
Too often, people mistake being a Subgenius with having some sort of increased "intelligence."  This is a profound mistake.
As Rev. Stang said sometime recently, “The Conspiracy has mis-defined intelligence.  What counts is sense!  Sexual sense! Common sense! Sense of humor!  “Bob” is not smart.  What he is, is lucky!  “Bob” can be magic and you can't, because he doesn't know any better.  He walks the path of least resistance, and that is his path to Slack.  Slack is indefinable.  I can't tell you what Slack is, because only you know what Slack is to you.”
Stang, Ivan., prod. “#1224.”  Hour of Slack. Church of the SubGenius Radio Ministry. Fall 2009. Subgenius.com Subsite Radio. Web. 7 Oct. 2009. <http://subgenius.com/ts/hos.html>

So, you might stop trying to pin it down for everyone else.   :wink:

Stang is a prize ass, and he regurgitated that from something he wrote in 1981.  Hell, even his new book contains nothing newer than 1994.  He and Phil Drummond and Ken DeVries had a great idea, but they ran out of juice.  They haven't done anything new since just after Clinton took office, and they actively slap down anyone who DOES try anything new on their newsgroup...except for DeVries (Nenslo), who tries to encourage it, when he isn't being bombarded by stalkers.

That's why it's so fortunate that the Church doesn't actually require any of them to function.
All the same, the point he was making is still a valid one, which is why I referred to it. 
I did not refer to it in order to put Stang up on some huge pedestal, I don't care for Stang anymore than I care about "Bob", which is to say, anymore than either of them care about me.  However, I still find a lot of usefulness in Stang's work, rehashed or otherwise, and I do not refrain from applying it to appropriate situations.

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« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2009, 07:55:35 pm »
Go to Mexico--see all you hold above to be "work of the Greyface" turned on its ear, and you'll see that what you're really talking about is just ANOTHER kind of Greyface.  That of not giving a shit about anything or anyone.

Mexico whut?

Yup.  I live in San Diego, I know TJ well.  Nuff said.

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« Reply #50 on: November 05, 2009, 08:02:00 pm »
Too often, people mistake being a Subgenius with having some sort of increased "intelligence."  This is a profound mistake.
As Rev. Stang said sometime recently, “The Conspiracy has mis-defined intelligence.  What counts is sense!  Sexual sense! Common sense! Sense of humor!  “Bob” is not smart.  What he is, is lucky!  “Bob” can be magic and you can't, because he doesn't know any better.  He walks the path of least resistance, and that is his path to Slack.  Slack is indefinable.  I can't tell you what Slack is, because only you know what Slack is to you.”
Stang, Ivan., prod. “#1224.”  Hour of Slack. Church of the SubGenius Radio Ministry. Fall 2009. Subgenius.com Subsite Radio. Web. 7 Oct. 2009. <http://subgenius.com/ts/hos.html>

So, you might stop trying to pin it down for everyone else.   :wink:

Stang is a prize ass, and he regurgitated that from something he wrote in 1981.  Hell, even his new book contains nothing newer than 1994.  He and Phil Drummond and Ken DeVries had a great idea, but they ran out of juice.  They haven't done anything new since just after Clinton took office, and they actively slap down anyone who DOES try anything new on their newsgroup...except for DeVries (Nenslo), who tries to encourage it, when he isn't being bombarded by stalkers.

That's why it's so fortunate that the Church doesn't actually require any of them to function.
All the same, the point he was making is still a valid one, which is why I referred to it. 
I did not refer to it in order to put Stang up on some huge pedestal, I don't care for Stang anymore than I care about "Bob", which is to say, anymore than either of them care about me.  However, I still find a lot of usefulness in Stang's work, rehashed or otherwise, and I do not refrain from applying it to appropriate situations.

It's also information everyone here already has.

Just saying.
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Re: GREYFACE LIVES! (And not where you think!)
« Reply #51 on: November 05, 2009, 08:03:39 pm »
Sombunall of us, anyway.





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Re: GREYFACE LIVES! (And not where you think!)
« Reply #52 on: November 05, 2009, 08:05:40 pm »
Sombunall of us, anyway.





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- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

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Re: GREYFACE LIVES! (And not where you think!)
« Reply #53 on: November 05, 2009, 08:07:10 pm »
Shit.  Now it's gonna rain for the next 23* days.



















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« Reply #54 on: November 05, 2009, 08:08:17 pm »
Shit.  Now it's gonna rain for the next 23* days.



















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- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

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« Reply #55 on: November 05, 2009, 08:43:33 pm »
Shit.  Now it's gonna rain for the next 23* days.



















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I just got through torrential rains for days on end and we still have flooding and my favorite casino on the river is closed and there is nowhere to play penny slots and get 50 cent drinks until it re-opens.  If it starts rainging again because of you LMNO..........   :argh!:

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« Reply #56 on: November 05, 2009, 08:47:23 pm »
If you're nice, he may skip St Louis.













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« Reply #57 on: November 06, 2009, 02:33:31 am »
This was possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen written here.


Many of you are so-called Discordians and SubGenii are probably still blundering and toiling under the  :fnord: Curse of Greyface* :evilmad: (adherence to or application of unnecessary and/or destructive order and control, see footnote) without even knowing it. Many you may think you have freed yourself from his curse, but most of you are WRONG, you poor deluded fools... He lurks where you least expect it! he bends the knees and crushes the mind yet none behold the hand that smites! Beware of destructive order! Fear Him!


:roflcake: All of the following are of the Curse of Greyface (although some may be unexpected),  
All of them Being either: Order imposed for no reason, or situations where chaos would work just as well (or better), Or else Order of an actually destructive nature:

•   Spaying or Neutering Your Pets− In fact, any attempt to control thepe population. They talk about how many unwanted animals ae euthanized in animal shelters each year, but that is a problem which arises not from animal population, but from attempts to control it. We could make the number of unwanted animals euthanized each year drop instantly to zero if we just shut down the animal shelters and admitted to ourselves that there is no more need to control the population of stray cats and dogs than there is to control the populations or squirrels or songbirds , nor is there any reason other than unmitigated hubris to believe that animals of any sort are or even could be significantly worse off without us in their lives.
•   Yardwork and Lawn Care− You probably spend a great deal of your time inside and most likely so do your neighbors. If you really have business just hanging around on your lawn all the time (or if your neighbors have business staring at it all hours of the day and night) instead of either doing something inside or else going somewhere more interesting than a stupid boring residential lawn (such as a public pool, or a video arcade, or a skate park, or (if you live near the seashore) the beach or the boardwalk, or a bowling alley, or the park) then by all means, keep your yard tidy, but if not, I really do not see what good it will do for you. Plus its bad for the environment, because not only do most lawnmowers have very low fuel−efficiency (and large "Carbon−Footprints" to use a hackneyed and banal popular cliché), and not only are chemical yard treatments bad for local wildlife (especially frogs and salamanders and other cute littkle amphibians), but also, cutting the grass reduces the grass's avaible photosynthetic surfaces, and that means less photosysnthesis and thus less carbon dioxide removed from the air and less oxygen given off
•   Trying To Help Control The Human Population by Not Reproducing− The fact of the matter is, that in the long run, all that this will accomplish is to reduce the overall occurrences of any genetic predisposition towards having a social conscience within the human gene pool. If you care enough about overpopulation to want to do something about it, then you should try to stop other people from reproducing.
•   Abortion− This is a clearly a form of destructive order. Furthermore, it lends itself to the advancement of eugenics−related ideas; Weeding out those who are "disordered" before they can even be born. While this may have some valid upshots it is stlll far, far worse than the alternative; I'd sooner see this species devolve into barely animate wads of slime than let its gene−pool be controlled by what the pinks and the mediocretin normals think is and isn't "Disordered"
•   Tidying the House− This is only a good thing to do if it actually makes things easier to use; If you've memorized and gotten used to your possessions locations where they are strewn about the house, and if the places where things are used are far from the places where they are stored, and if you can still move around the house, then the small aesthetic benefit gained from having a tidy home is probably (and in fact, almost definitely) far more trouble than its worth.


 :FFF:



*For those of you unfamiliar with the parable of Greyface and the/his curse, I will reiterate it here. Greyface, (whether or not he literally exists or not, doesn't matter) is a far more potent figure of negative slack than Satan or even NHGH and Hyper-NHGH, and it is important to know what he is and what you are up against:

   Thousands of years ago, a malcontented hunchbrain by the name of Greyface, got it into his head that the universe was as humorless as he, and he began to teach that play was sinful because it contradicted the ways of Serious Order. ``Look at all the order around you,'' he said. And from that, he deluded honest men to believe that reality was a straightjacket affair and not the happy romance as men had known it.
      It is not presently understood why men were so gullible at that particular time, for absolutely no one thought to observe all the disorder around them and conclude just the opposite. But anyway, Greyface and his followers took the game of playing at life more seriously than they took life itself and were known even to destroy other living beings whose ways of life differed from their own.
      The unfortunate result of this is that mankind has since been suffering from a psychological and spiritual imbalance. Imbalance causes frustration, and frustration causes fear. And fear makes for a bad trip. Man has been on a bad trip for a long time now.
      It is called THE CURSE OF GREYFACE.
      To choose order over disorder, or disorder over order, is to accept a trip composed of both the creative and the destructive. But to choose the creative over the destructive is an all-creative trip composed of both order and disorder. To accomplish this, one need only accept creative disorder along with, and equal to, creative order, and also willing to reject destructive order as an undesirable equal to destructive disorder.
      The Curse of Greyface included the division of life into order/disorder as the essential positive/negative polarity, instead of building a game foundation with creative/destructive as the essential positive/negative. He has thereby caused man to endure the destructive aspects of order and has prevented man from effectively participating in the creative uses of disorder. Civilization reflects this unfortunate division.
      POEE proclaims that the other division is preferable, and we work toward the proposition that creative disorder, like creative order, is possible and desirable; and that destructive order, like destructive disorder, is unnecessary and undesirable.
      Seek the Sacred Chao -- therein you will find the foolishness of all ORDER/DISORDER. They are the same!

“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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« Reply #58 on: November 06, 2009, 02:37:21 am »
I'm against realness. I'mma gonna start the Unreally Unreal Discordians for Unrealness (Unreally!) Club.

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“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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« Reply #59 on: November 06, 2009, 02:43:54 am »
Many of you are so-called Discordians and SubGenii are probably still blundering and toiling under the  :fnord: Curse of Greyface* :evilmad: (adherence to or application of unnecessary and/or destructive order and control, see footnote) without even knowing it. Many you may think you have freed yourself from his curse, but most of you are WRONG, you poor deluded fools... He lurks where you least expect it! he bends the knees and crushes the mind yet none behold the hand that smites! Beware of destructive order! Fear Him!


:roflcake: All of the following are of the Curse of Greyface (although some may be unexpected),  
All of them Being either: Order imposed for no reason, or situations where chaos would work just as well (or better), Or else Order of an actually destructive nature:

•   Spaying or Neutering Your Pets− In fact, any attempt to control thepe population. They talk about how many unwanted animals ae euthanized in animal shelters each year, but that is a problem which arises not from animal population, but from attempts to control it. We could make the number of unwanted animals euthanized each year drop instantly to zero if we just shut down the animal shelters and admitted to ourselves that there is no more need to control the population of stray cats and dogs than there is to control the populations or squirrels or songbirds , nor is there any reason other than unmitigated hubris to believe that animals of any sort are or even could be significantly worse off without us in their lives.
•   Yardwork and Lawn Care− You probably spend a great deal of your time inside and most likely so do your neighbors. If you really have business just hanging around on your lawn all the time (or if your neighbors have business staring at it all hours of the day and night) instead of either doing something inside or else going somewhere more interesting than a stupid boring residential lawn (such as a public pool, or a video arcade, or a skate park, or (if you live near the seashore) the beach or the boardwalk, or a bowling alley, or the park) then by all means, keep your yard tidy, but if not, I really do not see what good it will do for you. Plus its bad for the environment, because not only do most lawnmowers have very low fuel−efficiency (and large "Carbon−Footprints" to use a hackneyed and banal popular cliché), and not only are chemical yard treatments bad for local wildlife (especially frogs and salamanders and other cute littkle amphibians), but also, cutting the grass reduces the grass's avaible photosynthetic surfaces, and that means less photosysnthesis and thus less carbon dioxide removed from the air and less oxygen given off
•   Trying To Help Control The Human Population by Not Reproducing− The fact of the matter is, that in the long run, all that this will accomplish is to reduce the overall occurrences of any genetic predisposition towards having a social conscience within the human gene pool. If you care enough about overpopulation to want to do something about it, then you should try to stop other people from reproducing.
•   Abortion− This is a clearly a form of destructive order. Furthermore, it lends itself to the advancement of eugenics−related ideas; Weeding out those who are "disordered" before they can even be born. While this may have some valid upshots it is stlll far, far worse than the alternative; I'd sooner see this species devolve into barely animate wads of slime than let its gene−pool be controlled by what the pinks and the mediocretin normals think is and isn't "Disordered"
•   Tidying the House− This is only a good thing to do if it actually makes things easier to use; If you've memorized and gotten used to your possessions locations where they are strewn about the house, and if the places where things are used are far from the places where they are stored, and if you can still move around the house, then the small aesthetic benefit gained from having a tidy home is probably (and in fact, almost definitely) far more trouble than its worth.


 :FFF:



*For those of you unfamiliar with the parable of Greyface and the/his curse, I will reiterate it here. Greyface, (whether or not he literally exists or not, doesn't matter) is a far more potent figure of negative slack than Satan or even NHGH and Hyper-NHGH, and it is important to know what he is and what you are up against:

   Thousands of years ago, a malcontented hunchbrain by the name of Greyface, got it into his head that the universe was as humorless as he, and he began to teach that play was sinful because it contradicted the ways of Serious Order. ``Look at all the order around you,'' he said. And from that, he deluded honest men to believe that reality was a straightjacket affair and not the happy romance as men had known it.
      It is not presently understood why men were so gullible at that particular time, for absolutely no one thought to observe all the disorder around them and conclude just the opposite. But anyway, Greyface and his followers took the game of playing at life more seriously than they took life itself and were known even to destroy other living beings whose ways of life differed from their own.
      The unfortunate result of this is that mankind has since been suffering from a psychological and spiritual imbalance. Imbalance causes frustration, and frustration causes fear. And fear makes for a bad trip. Man has been on a bad trip for a long time now.
      It is called THE CURSE OF GREYFACE.
      To choose order over disorder, or disorder over order, is to accept a trip composed of both the creative and the destructive. But to choose the creative over the destructive is an all-creative trip composed of both order and disorder. To accomplish this, one need only accept creative disorder along with, and equal to, creative order, and also willing to reject destructive order as an undesirable equal to destructive disorder.
      The Curse of Greyface included the division of life into order/disorder as the essential positive/negative polarity, instead of building a game foundation with creative/destructive as the essential positive/negative. He has thereby caused man to endure the destructive aspects of order and has prevented man from effectively participating in the creative uses of disorder. Civilization reflects this unfortunate division.
      POEE proclaims that the other division is preferable, and we work toward the proposition that creative disorder, like creative order, is possible and desirable; and that destructive order, like destructive disorder, is unnecessary and undesirable.
      Seek the Sacred Chao -- therein you will find the foolishness of all ORDER/DISORDER. They are the same!


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