Jazz: srs fucking business

[Triple Zero]

What's wrong with metal?

Its only enjoyable on an ironic level.

[Brotep]

^Here we see the metal drummer in his natural habitat, ironically enjoying his craft

[LMNO, PhD (life continues)]

(not shown is the 16th note kick drum assault)

[Balls Wellington]

you know, jazz would be slightly more tolerable if it used blastbeats more.

[LMNO, PhD (life continues)]

Cf: Buddy Rich, Ginger Baker.

[Iason Ouabache]

you know, jazz would be slightly more tolerable if it used blastbeats breakbeats more.

[Triple Zero]

Do You Know Squarepusher?

[Balls Wellington]

Ginger Baker.

Do You Know Squarepusher?

I never thought of either of these as being jazz, but if they are then I am willing to concede that there may be jazz that doesn't totally suck provided it utilizes blastbeats and/or breakbeats.

[LMNO, PhD (life continues)]

Baker did a few jazz albums with Charlie Hayden and Bill Frisell.  Most of what he does can be considered wanking rock, though.

[Balls Wellington]

not that rock isn't wanking, but I'm amused that you could consider it MORE wanky than jazz.

[Brotep]

It's hard to get wankier than rock at its worst.  Seriously.

A good chunk of jazz is the musical equivalent of trash talking:
"Fuck you, your song sounds like 'Pop Goes the Weasel'"

[chimes]

  I enjoy a lot of jazz and metal.

[Z³]

not unless your point is that you're not only a snob about music, you're a snob about bad music.

and you totally missed my point about musical complexity, which was that complexity has absolutely ZERO bearing on whether or not music is good.

hence why Dream Theater and jazz, while both technically impressive, are still nothing more than overwrought wankery.

I bet that if you were a metal kid, you'd like Yngwei Malmsteen.

Yngwie Malmsteen is pretty good.

Also a lot of good metal has strong jazz influence. What comes to mind for me is Gorguts and Cryptopsy, both pretty good technical death
metal from Quebec, but there are a lot of examples. Metal and Jazz share something else too, which is a large intelligence gap between musician and fan. I dont know, I think jazz is pretty good, and I like what I like.

Which is post ww2 bebop, right after the big gap that followed big band.

My favorites are Art Blakey & Max Roach.

[Balls Wellington]

yeah, well, I'm not gonna argue with you because it's no fun to troll you

[Cait M. R.]

I like jazz, dubstep (I can provide examples of good dubstep, too! I'm serious!), metal, J-pop, and any other genre you care to name. I only hate one band, and that is Enter Shikari. I hate Enter Shikari because they manage to take every genre I got into music with, and make it somehow suck so horribly even -I- hate it.

Also, Roger, if you hate dubstep, you will never get over this stuff called illbient.

On the subject of good dubstep... Look for Loefah's "Indian Dub". I'd give a Youtube but it only has the godawful Skream remix. If you like the harsher stuff, look no further than Roguestar's Stay Calm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqEzqo__DBc&fmt=18 (Skip to :30 to avoid a long and shitty intro.)

And if you like stuff that's simply insane... http://new.music.yahoo.com/kraddy/tracks/godzilla--177456993 This song will give you enough to never stop laughing again. EDIT WRONG SONG LOOKING AGAIN.EDIT IT'S GONE FROM THE INTERNET. THE SONG I WAS THINKING OF HAD WACKY JAPANESE SINGING AND WEIRDNESS AND I CANNOT FIND IT. SORRY.