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« Reply #90 on: December 16, 2009, 03:37:03 pm »
Lemme spell it out for the slow readers and in the interests of totally murdering the funnay

homophonophobe - someone who's afraid of the delicate sound of gay, right?

VV - you're just afraid you sound gay

Ah, fuck it, I give up - flame on!

It's the exact same joke, and Trip Zip made it first.  Not seeing it.
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« Reply #91 on: December 16, 2009, 03:38:47 pm »
lol  I was being tongue-in-cheek as well, not mega hilarious.

Sorry for the derail/troll.  Unintended consequences.  :p

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« Reply #92 on: December 16, 2009, 03:40:41 pm »
Lemme spell it out for the slow readers and in the interests of totally murdering the funnay

homophonophobe - someone who's afraid of the delicate sound of gay, right?

VV - you're just afraid you sound gay

Ah, fuck it, I give up - flame on!

It's the exact same joke, and Trip Zip made it first.  Not seeing it.

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« Reply #93 on: December 16, 2009, 03:41:35 pm »
lol  I was being tongue-in-cheek as well, not mega hilarious.

Sorry for the derail/troll.  Unintended consequences.  :p

Ah, sorry it failed to penetrate through to my grey matter.  T'is the nature of printed funnay.

And, I already got what I wanted out of this thread, derail away...
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« Reply #94 on: December 16, 2009, 04:03:55 pm »
I'm just going to sound as if I'm derailing the thread.

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« Reply #95 on: December 16, 2009, 04:07:19 pm »
I will say that you're not a particularly good scientist. Homosexuality can cut down on population growth, which can devastate a population if left unchecked.

Err... cause promoting a hypothesis without evidence is good science!  :lulz:
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« Reply #96 on: December 16, 2009, 04:26:19 pm »
But you're wrong on one count.  Homosexuality is a survival trait in an overcrowded biome, when survival at the tribal level (or above) is considered.  It adds workers (hunters, etc), without adding additional mouths later.  Homosexuality (and, incidentally, insanity) also increases in frequency with population crowding, as demonstrated by the generic adaptative syndrome work done way back in the 50s (When we studied it in rats...Now you can walk out your front door and study it in humans).

I can't find anything about this under 'generic adaptative syndrome'*, you know it by any other terms?

*There is a 'general adaptation syndrome', but that refers to all stress, not just overcrowding.
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« Reply #97 on: December 16, 2009, 04:27:05 pm »
I will say that you're not a particularly good scientist. Homosexuality can cut down on population growth, which can devastate a population if left unchecked.

Err... cause promoting a hypothesis without evidence is good science!  :lulz:

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« Reply #98 on: December 16, 2009, 04:27:39 pm »
Requia, not for nothing, but overcrowding can cause high levels of stress.

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« Reply #99 on: December 16, 2009, 08:31:03 pm »
But you're wrong on one count.  Homosexuality is a survival trait in an overcrowded biome, when survival at the tribal level (or above) is considered.  It adds workers (hunters, etc), without adding additional mouths later.  Homosexuality (and, incidentally, insanity) also increases in frequency with population crowding, as demonstrated by the generic adaptative syndrome work done way back in the 50s (When we studied it in rats...Now you can walk out your front door and study it in humans).

I can't find anything about this under 'generic adaptative syndrome'*, you know it by any other terms?

*There is a 'general adaptation syndrome', but that refers to all stress, not just overcrowding.

That is what the study with the Rats was based on... and it was tied to high stress = lower male hormones.

To LMNO's point, High Stress COULD be due to overcrowding or lack of resources... Although, one survey on humans found the stress induced by Wartime correlated with a greater number of homosexual males.

However, and this is the key bit... at best we now have a correlation between a lack of proper hormones in the mother and homosexual behavior. What we do not have, is evidence that it this drop in hormones is an evolutionary advantage. Also, it doesn't seem to affect females at all, so it only exists as a correlation for homosexual tendencies in males. Of course, if we base our argument on this position, we must argue that homosexual behavior is not genetic. Rather this theory claaims that the behaavior is determined by hormonal levels of the mother while pregnant.

So what that would mean is that when it is not a good time for the Mother to be pregnant, the child may be homosexual. That doesn't seem to necessarily support the idea that it is a positive evolutionary trait... evidence and testing may someday find support, but currently we don't got it.
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« Reply #100 on: December 16, 2009, 08:44:57 pm »
I think something I kind of mentioned, yet hasn't been stated head on, is the possibility that homosexuality as genetic coding has not really been proven.

That said, I am of the firm opinion that IT SHOULDN'T FUCKING MATTER WHETHER OR NOT GENETICS MAKES A MAN WANT TO SUCK COCK, OR A WOMAN TO EAT PUSSY.  The physical and emotional attachments one human has for another is not dictated by God, and it shouldn't bother anyone except the people involved in the relationship.  In a way, it seems to be edging close to some sort of apologetics to "explain" homosexuality by saying "oh, they can't help it, they were born that way."



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« Reply #101 on: December 16, 2009, 08:46:01 pm »
I think something I kind of mentioned, yet hasn't been stated head on, is the possibility that homosexuality as genetic coding has not really been proven.

That said, I am of the firm opinion that IT SHOULDN'T FUCKING MATTER WHETHER OR NOT GENETICS MAKES A MAN WANT TO SUCK COCK, OR A WOMAN TO EAT PUSSY.  The physical and emotional attachments one human has for another is not dictated by God, and it shouldn't bother anyone except the people involved in the relationship.  In a way, it seems to be edging close to some sort of apologetics to "explain" homosexuality by saying "oh, they can't help it, they were born that way."



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« Reply #102 on: December 16, 2009, 08:48:05 pm »
I think something I kind of mentioned, yet hasn't been stated head on, is the possibility that homosexuality as genetic coding has not really been proven.

That said, I am of the firm opinion that IT SHOULDN'T FUCKING MATTER WHETHER OR NOT GENETICS MAKES A MAN WANT TO SUCK COCK, OR A WOMAN TO EAT PUSSY.  The physical and emotional attachments one human has for another is not dictated by God, and it shouldn't bother anyone except the people involved in the relationship.  In a way, it seems to be edging close to some sort of apologetics to "explain" homosexuality by saying "oh, they can't help it, they were born that way."



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« Reply #103 on: December 16, 2009, 09:50:40 pm »
I think I remember reading about that study, Roger. Didn't the studies in the rats show that once population crowding kept going cannibalism started up?

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« Reply #104 on: December 16, 2009, 09:54:12 pm »
I agree with that statement about adding workers without adding mouths.  I'm not sure that the inability to procreate (in a homosexual relationship) should be classified as a mistake.  In this day and age, I'd consider it an advantage.  If humans continue to procreate at the rate we are now indefinitely, it will arguably hasten our extinction.  From that angle, the increasing frequency of homosexuality could be seen as a positive adaptive development.

So, same as serial killers, then?
Homosexuals are workers that don't add extra mouths. Serial Killers subtract workers and extra mouths.

Wouldn't serial killers then be beneficial when there is an over abundance of workers in an area?  Perhaps, from a population control perspective, they would be even more beneficial if they only kill heterosexuals.
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