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Re: Featured at 23ae
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2010, 05:55:10 pm »
Yeah, I'm in agreement with Cram... if you don't like the flavor of it, why not work toward something you DO like the flavor of, rather than spend your time musing on a flavor you don't like.

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Re: Featured at 23ae
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2010, 07:01:29 pm »
I reread his rant, and it occurs to me that what TOA is bitter about is not that other people don't "get" the BIP, but that he doesn't "get" it himself, and makes him feel stupid. Like he's on the outside of an inside joke.

To that, I say; not our problem.

Unfortunately, I disagree; FOR ME, the BIP is a distillation/variation on similar PD/RAW themes, and is not supposed to be a concept reserved for a selective few -- in fact, with my pieces, I was trying to make it more accessible, by removing as much esoterica as possible: "Your born biology and your learned psychology create a unique filter by which you see the Universe."

If he doesn't "get" it, that is a big problem.




On the other hand, if he doesn't like it, fuck him.

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Re: Featured at 23ae
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2010, 07:04:48 pm »
Here's a piece by The Other Anonymous addressed to the authors and editors of the Black Iron Prison. He thinks we're doing it wrong.

http://23ae.com/2010/02/boredom/



Once again, he's an asshat.  He's assuming he knows what we're thinking, and building a massive strawman argument from that.

Now, I've known the stalker was a fucking fruitloop from day one...I didn't realize he was STUPID, too.

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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2010, 07:06:00 pm »
I reread his rant, and it occurs to me that what TOA is bitter about is not that other people don't "get" the BIP, but that he doesn't "get" it himself, and makes him feel stupid. Like he's on the outside of an inside joke.

To that, I say; not our problem.

Unfortunately, I disagree; FOR ME, the BIP is a distillation/variation on similar PD/RAW themes, and is not supposed to be a concept reserved for a selective few -- in fact, with my pieces, I was trying to make it more accessible, by removing as much esoterica as possible: "Your born biology and your learned psychology create a unique filter by which you see the Universe."

If he doesn't "get" it, that is a big problem.




On the other hand, if he doesn't like it, fuck him.

Wait.

We're responsible for ensuring that retards read what is actually written, rather than what their butthurt little minds WANT it to say?

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Re: Featured at 23ae
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2010, 07:27:11 pm »
I reread his rant, and it occurs to me that what TOA is bitter about is not that other people don't "get" the BIP, but that he doesn't "get" it himself, and makes him feel stupid. Like he's on the outside of an inside joke.

To that, I say; not our problem.

Unfortunately, I disagree; FOR ME, the BIP is a distillation/variation on similar PD/RAW themes, and is not supposed to be a concept reserved for a selective few -- in fact, with my pieces, I was trying to make it more accessible, by removing as much esoterica as possible: "Your born biology and your learned psychology create a unique filter by which you see the Universe."

If he doesn't "get" it, that is a big problem.




On the other hand, if he doesn't like it, fuck him.

Wait.

We're responsible for ensuring that retards read what is actually written, rather than what their butthurt little minds WANT it to say?


Kind of.  Otherwise, aren't we jst preaching to the choir?

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Re: Featured at 23ae
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2010, 07:41:14 pm »
I reread his rant, and it occurs to me that what TOA is bitter about is not that other people don't "get" the BIP, but that he doesn't "get" it himself, and makes him feel stupid. Like he's on the outside of an inside joke.

To that, I say; not our problem.

Unfortunately, I disagree; FOR ME, the BIP is a distillation/variation on similar PD/RAW themes, and is not supposed to be a concept reserved for a selective few -- in fact, with my pieces, I was trying to make it more accessible, by removing as much esoterica as possible: "Your born biology and your learned psychology create a unique filter by which you see the Universe."

If he doesn't "get" it, that is a big problem.




On the other hand, if he doesn't like it, fuck him.

Wait.

We're responsible for ensuring that retards read what is actually written, rather than what their butthurt little minds WANT it to say?


Kind of.  Otherwise, aren't we jst preaching to the choir?

No.  You shake people awake.  If they decide they like being asleep better, fuck 'em.  Concentrate on the ones that are willing to wake up.

Life is too short to waste on the willfully ignorant.

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Re: Featured at 23ae
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2010, 07:52:12 pm »
I reread his rant, and it occurs to me that what TOA is bitter about is not that other people don't "get" the BIP, but that he doesn't "get" it himself, and makes him feel stupid. Like he's on the outside of an inside joke.

To that, I say; not our problem.

Unfortunately, I disagree; FOR ME, the BIP is a distillation/variation on similar PD/RAW themes, and is not supposed to be a concept reserved for a selective few -- in fact, with my pieces, I was trying to make it more accessible, by removing as much esoterica as possible: "Your born biology and your learned psychology create a unique filter by which you see the Universe."

If he doesn't "get" it, that is a big problem.




On the other hand, if he doesn't like it, fuck him.

No.

Not everyone is going to get everything, and not only is it not your job to make everyone get everything, it would be impossible. Look at the different reactions to "Catcher in the Rye".

His complaint is that the BIP is wankery, that only people who already understand the concepts will get them. I have seen many examples that show that he's wrong; people who were NOT already on board, who read the BIP, and "got" it instantly. That particular project has a certain type of people that it speaks to and works for; a target audience. His claim is that this target audience doesn't exist.

Therefore, I'm concluding that what he's doing is projecting his own failure to "get" it on the entire world, and blaming you.
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Re: Featured at 23ae
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2010, 08:37:41 pm »
Speaking of which, what is the status of the Discordia Etc? That seemed like a good project, and I'd love to see it someday. It's been a couple of years.

I'd say it's 96% done. Every so often, Net and I go "Okay, Let's finish it for real!" and then for some reason we don't.  :lulz:


To be fair, that fucking freelance website project that I really really had to finish and caused me to drop helping out on the Etc is also still not finished.

Goddamn thing is like one of those metal ball weights chained to my ankle like the Daltons in Lucky Luke.

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Re: Featured at 23ae
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2010, 08:42:58 pm »
"birds singing vocoder tunes"

wow, that sounds so fucking awesome!!
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« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2010, 08:44:38 pm »
and real vocoders, too. none of that over-used newfangled autotuner crap.
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Re: Featured at 23ae
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2010, 09:45:17 pm »
If TOA insists that the thing he wrote is Intermittens 9, then I am going to treat it like that.
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« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2010, 10:41:32 pm »
i was most definitely imagining the real deal vocoders
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Re: Featured at 23ae
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2010, 11:55:45 pm »
If TOA insists that the thing he wrote is Intermittens 9, then I am going to [url-http://23ae.com/2010/02/a-review-of-intermittens-9/]treat it like that[/url].

 :lulz: :lulz:


nice tit for that, thar


I'm not treating that one-page PDF as issue 9 --- those of us who have edited issues have spent weeks or months on them.

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Re: Featured at 23ae
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2010, 01:40:23 am »
I'm not treating that one-page PDF as issue 9

Yeah, I agree.  I think the honor of the real number 9 will go to Peleus, I really like the idea of the "phobia" themed issue, I can't wait to see how it turns out.

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Re: Featured at 23ae
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2010, 11:47:26 am »
Speaking of which, what is the status of the Discordia Etc? That seemed like a good project, and I'd love to see it someday. It's been a couple of years.

I'd say it's 96% done. Every so often, Net and I go "Okay, Let's finish it for real!" and then for some reason we don't.  :lulz:


To be fair, that fucking freelance website project that I really really had to finish and caused me to drop helping out on the Etc is also still not finished.

Goddamn thing is like one of those metal ball weights chained to my ankle like the Daltons in Lucky Luke.

But when I finish it ... OOHHH .. YOU WILL ALL KNOW .. AND THE SKIES WILL BE PURPLE AND ORANGE AND CANDY AND THE BIRDS WILL SING VOCODER TUNES


What's this "etc" that you speak of? It sounds interesting.
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Lets try it on an even simpler level:

1) There is a minimum energy/mass things can have, everything can be measured in a multiple of this minimum.

2) Objects at this size, or close to it, don't have an exact position or velocity, so they look like waves in most experiments.

3) If you try to measure the location, they act more like particles, just to fuck with you, but the velocity gets more uncertain, also just to fuck with you.

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