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Dear Authors of the BIP: Your Book Is Shit
« on: April 16, 2010, 02:43:26 am »
I apologize for the blunt title, but it's the best I could come up with to sum up what I've been feeling about the BIP over the past day.

So, let me begin by saying that I've had a baaaaad case of the Greyface for a while now. Up until a few months ago, I thought my Greyface was the best thing that could ever had happened to me, and looked with pity upon those not inflicted with the Curse. However, somewhere along the road, I'm not exactly sure, I realized "Wait a minute, this sucks ass."

However, realizing that being Greyface sucks ass and stopping being such a Greyface are, unfortunately, two very different things. I still, as of writing this post, find myself overly serious about things that I don't need to be so serious about. The writing of this post included.

So, I've been on a bit of a journey to de-Greyface myself. I figured the BIP would be as good a source as any, considering it's basically the New Testament to the Discordian religion. So, I read it, and I found myself automatically agreeing with any idea that's expressed well, which I usually do. I nodded my head, and the BIP made perfect sense to me, and I developed the sense that the BIP had, indeed, de-Greyfaced me.

Which led to most of my previous posts on this forum. After all, now that I had been de-Greyfaced, and seen the joy it had brought upon me, why not try to go de-Greyface everybody else? Hell, why not embark on a CRUSADE of de-Greyfacing?

I mean, it's the most brilliant idea ever, right! Tell everybody the great things about Discordianism, and why they should become a Discordian, and-

Wait... Awwwwww shit.

And that's when I realized that the BIP, rather than alleviating my case of Greyface, had only perpetuated it. Instead of stressing about all the things I had been stressing about previously, like about how society is corrupt and immoral, and how to bring about the Greater Good, and all that nonsense, I was instead finding myself stressing about how I have no freedom, and about how to break apart The Machine the best I could, and all that nonsense.

To me, at this point, the BIP is basically preaching a different kind of Order, while attempting to disguise itself as Disorder. It's the same bunch of revolutionaries who act like they're different than all the others and better than all the others because they're the right revolution and all the others are wrong for such and such reason. It's the same bunch of fundamentalists who act like they've got the right path to enlightenment and all the others will only lead you to misery and pain, and that you've got to do what they say in order to free your soul.

Therefore, I state the title. No offense guys, but your book is shit.

But, then again, I could have completely misunderstood the entire read, and need to go back for another view.

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Re: Dear Authors of the BIP: Your Book Is Shit
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2010, 02:46:25 am »
It happens.
Work for yourself, look out for yourself.
Why stress at all in the first place?
What is the machine?
Why preach about Discordianism?
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Re: Dear Authors of the BIP: Your Book Is Shit
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2010, 02:50:17 am »
1) Cause they're letting someone like me go into science.
 :eek:
2) It both cuts and creams corn, and it runs on the fat of dead babies
3) Cause that's what all the orthodox kids are doing.
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Re: Dear Authors of the BIP: Your Book Is Shit
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2010, 02:55:37 am »
Dear Jackelope,

Sorry nobody lives up to your standards.  Also, I take back the nice, optimistic things I said about you.  You're a solopsistic piece of human waste, and you should probably feed yourself through an asphalt machine.  Seriously.  Fuck off.  If we're that bad, you should leave at once before we infect you.

I wish you luck walking through a world in which everyone and everything around you is a dismal failure.  Just do it somewhere else.

Yours truly,
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Re: Dear Authors of the BIP: Your Book Is Shit
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2010, 03:00:33 am »
Good.  Looks like the little piece of shit took my advice.
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Re: Dear Authors of the BIP: Your Book Is Shit
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2010, 03:01:22 am »
 :lulz:

Maybe he just didn't read the How-To-Guide on Page 445
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Re: Dear Authors of the BIP: Your Book Is Shit
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2010, 03:02:00 am »
:lulz:

Maybe he just didn't read the How-To-Guide on Page 445

Or maybe he's just a coward.  This is no century for sissies.
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Re: Dear Authors of the BIP: Your Book Is Shit
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2010, 03:04:41 am »
The only thing Discordian (that I can remember) in the BIP was essentially the TFYS,S message. Otherwise, it's more a work written by (some) Discordians, for (some) people, as a metaphor for the constant growth and boundary pushing necessary to this TFYS concept.
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Re: Dear Authors of the BIP: Your Book Is Shit
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2010, 03:04:51 am »
So blame the book and the Authors for not doing it for him.

I think his post needs to be saved for a future book review atleast.
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Re: Dear Authors of the BIP: Your Book Is Shit
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2010, 03:07:19 am »
The statement OP makes is itself insulting, but that it came from a young person attempting to become wise, I can't really work up any kind of serious indignation.

Sigmatic,
I too am a youngster attempting wisdom- but now I've gotten to the point where I recognize how dumb I look doing it.

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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2010, 03:07:31 am »
So blame the book and the Authors for not doing it for him.

I think his post needs to be saved for a future book review atleast.

This.

Sort of like the mysticwicks testimonials in the newsfeed.

Still, I am going to enjoy hounding the little fucker, should he be so stupid as to return.

Damn.  This really has been stupid noob week, hasn't it?
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Re: Dear Authors of the BIP: Your Book Is Shit
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2010, 03:07:39 am »
You know there are these weird people that actually go and be creative and produce a work of their own.
WEIRDOS
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2010, 03:08:06 am »
The statement OP makes is itself insulting, but that it came from a young person attempting to become wise, I can't really work up any kind of serious response.

I can.  He's a dumbfuck.
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2010, 03:08:38 am »
You know there are these weird people that actually go and be creative and produce a work of their own.
WEIRDOS

Pretty sure Jackalope is safe.
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Re: Dear Authors of the BIP: Your Book Is Shit
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2010, 03:15:48 am »
No need to be so hostile, Dok Howl. I wasn't criticizing you, or any other authors of the BIP. I was criticizing the book. You're not shit people. The book is a shit book. In my least humble opinion, anyways.

Maybe it's not shit to other people. Maybe other people get the message it's trying to send. I don't get it, though. So, for me, it's a shit book, because all it did was end up doing a reverse-brainwash on me. Of course, many would argue, including myself at some points, that that was mostly my fault.

@ Sigmatic: See, that's my problem. When I was all like "LOL BIP FTW" I was attempting to become wise, because of how Greyfaced I was about how desperately I needed to be come wise. Unfortunately, I'm STILL Greyfaced off my rocker about needing to be wise, so here I am trying to be wise by going "LOL BIP FTL".

@ Kai: It still seemed to have the reverse effect of the philosophy it was spouting. Instead of finding myself thinking for myself more, I instead found myself just indoctrinated by the BIP rather than indoctrinated by the Communist Manifesto or Leviathan. Once again, mostly probably my fault for being so easy to indoctrinate, but the point still stands. I feel it is a work intended, consciously or otherwise, to indoctrinate, and therefore is no better than the other works intended to indoctrinate which it so beats upon.

Anyways, time for some more of these delicious ribs! =D