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Re: Twilight = Indirectly the success for Prop 8?
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2010, 08:03:01 pm »
RWHN- it's not tenuous. Do you think every wealthy Mormon of note DIDN'T give to that? I mean how else could they have afforded all those cool lightning bolts to make you fear the homosexual assault on our deeply Christian society?

Maybe she didn't give, but I think that it is more probable than not that she did. I have my own religious beliefs and you can be damn sure that if I had some money, I'd be pumping it into causes that I believe in, religion involved or not.

Well what is laid out in the OP is that Stephanie Meyer, being a good Mormon, donated her 10% to the church, the church poured money into Prop 8.  While I'm sure her 10% was considerable, my guess is the church would have had more than enough wealth otherwise to contribute to the Prop 8 campaign.  So as I say, there is a link-pin, but there are probably millions of linkpins with all of the other Mormons who contribute their tithes to the church. 



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Re: Twilight = Indirectly the success for Prop 8?
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2010, 08:05:30 pm »
Refusing to do business with ~12 million Mormons would be slightly more difficult than just avoiding the loudmouths.
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Re: Twilight = Indirectly the success for Prop 8?
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2010, 08:06:28 pm »
Don't mind me, I think I'm just being pedantic.  
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Re: Twilight = Indirectly the success for Prop 8?
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2010, 08:09:10 pm »
That's why I think we need to go the direct route.  If Mormon church uses tithing money to quash Prop 8, then those who tithe are contributing to quashing Prop 8.  The big question is, how does Meyer feel about that?  If you raise a big enough stink, she might actually respond.  Either she alienates the LGBTs, or she goes against the Church.

win/win.

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Re: Twilight = Indirectly the success for Prop 8?
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2010, 08:12:19 pm »
Refusing to do business with ~12 million Mormons would be slightly more difficult than just avoiding the loudmouths.

Right, but she's a high profile Mormon.

I'm not going to stop doing business with small time Catholics just because I happen to be pro-choice. Like you said, that's impractical. However, if there is a larger corporation that advances agendas (with their money) that I don't agree with, I'm not going to give them my money, and I'm going to tell other people why. Not because they're Catholic, but because there is reasonable doubt as to where my money is going after the fact.

Also, the whole argument here is overshadowing the fact that the Twilight series sucks to begin with and you shouldn't spend your money on it anyway.
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Re: Twilight = Indirectly the success for Prop 8?
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2010, 08:13:26 pm »
That's why I think we need to go the direct route.  If Mormon church uses tithing money to quash Prop 8, then those who tithe are contributing to quashing Prop 8.  The big question is, how does Meyer feel about that?  If you raise a big enough stink, she might actually respond.  Either she alienates the LGBTs, or she goes against the Church.

win/win.

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Re: Twilight = Indirectly the success for Prop 8?
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2010, 08:21:02 pm »
How do Mormons feel about tales of vampires and werewolves in the first place?  Especially coming from one of their own?  Maybe Mormons don't get as hot and bothered about those types of things like a lot of Catholics and Protestants do. 
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Re: Twilight = Indirectly the success for Prop 8?
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2010, 08:27:04 pm »
How do Mormons feel about tales of vampires and werewolves in the first place?  Especially coming from one of their own?  Maybe Mormons don't get as hot and bothered about those types of things like a lot of Catholics and Protestants do. 

I dunno, are the weres and vamps living "according to The PrincipleTM"?  /snicker

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Re: Twilight = Indirectly the success for Prop 8?
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2010, 08:31:50 pm »
How do Mormons feel about tales of vampires and werewolves in the first place?  Especially coming from one of their own?  Maybe Mormons don't get as hot and bothered about those types of things like a lot of Catholics and Protestants do. 

Well, with Anne Rice's Vampire chronicles, Catholicism started to creep in, especially with Armand's apparent devoutness within the Church, even if it was at times Satanic. Maybe I'm reading into it wrong, since AR used to be an atheist, but that's what I got out of that. That and, of course, the dirty pederastic eroticism that made me put The Vampire Armand down forever, without finishing it.
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Re: Twilight = Indirectly the success for Prop 8?
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2010, 08:47:19 pm »
How do Mormons feel about tales of vampires and werewolves in the first place?  Especially coming from one of their own?  Maybe Mormons don't get as hot and bothered about those types of things like a lot of Catholics and Protestants do. 

Maybe they don't mind as much when it comes down to money for the church.

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Re: Twilight = Indirectly the success for Prop 8?
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2010, 08:53:24 pm »
How do Mormons feel about tales of vampires and werewolves in the first place?  Especially coming from one of their own?  Maybe Mormons don't get as hot and bothered about those types of things like a lot of Catholics and Protestants do. 

Maybe they don't mind as much when it comes down to money for the church.

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Re: Twilight = Indirectly the success for Prop 8?
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2010, 09:53:45 pm »
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The point? J. K. Rowling is people friendly and a compassionate person (clearly evident by her support to include a homosexual in her work, as one of the most inspiring, wise, and developed characters in literature, Professor Dumbledore,,,

I only saw the first Harry Potter movie for the lulz but...

Dumbledore is gay??? Didnt see that one coming.

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« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2010, 10:01:02 pm »
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The point? J. K. Rowling is people friendly and a compassionate person (clearly evident by her support to include a homosexual in her work, as one of the most inspiring, wise, and developed characters in literature, Professor Dumbledore,,,

I only saw the first Harry Potter movie for the lulz but...

Dumbledore is gay??? Didnt see that one coming.

Author confirmed. Apparently there is a sad lost love story implied in the whole thing. Which I think is cool, but why not come out and say it?
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Re: Twilight = Indirectly the success for Prop 8?
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2010, 10:19:15 pm »
Because it didn't have much to do with the story being told?

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Re: Twilight = Indirectly the success for Prop 8?
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2010, 10:19:45 pm »
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The point? J. K. Rowling is people friendly and a compassionate person (clearly evident by her support to include a homosexual in her work, as one of the most inspiring, wise, and developed characters in literature, Professor Dumbledore,,,

I only saw the first Harry Potter movie for the lulz but...

Dumbledore is gay??? Didnt see that one coming.

Author confirmed. Apparently there is a sad lost love story implied in the whole thing. Which I think is cool, but why not come out and say it?

Oh i see, that makes more sense.

I would have thought it to be very daring to make it explicit in a latency oriented best-seller type of book.