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Re: Sympathy for the Devil, Part 2: Bad memes.
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2010, 07:39:14 pm »
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Re: Sympathy for the Devil, Part 2: Bad memes.
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2010, 12:51:39 am »
I'm so Happy. I think by Tiny Tim.

Sounds very much like Tiny Tim. And that creepy clown thingy will give me the best nightmares I've had in a long time.  :lulz:

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Re: Sympathy for the Devil, Part 2: Bad memes.
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2010, 09:40:16 am »
These days, it seems like people pay more attention to the internet's rumblings than they do to radio or newspapers.  TV would be the main obstacle, and the internet would be the most viable egregore (vocab?).

So I notice:

4chan helped popularize the word meme.  Some authors did too, but 4chan also linked it (the word) to a licentious image.  This is good in that it gives us an 'in' to stain the legitimacy of memes.  

If we can craft a meme that cast certain ideas as memes, while simultaneously deprecating memes themselves, that would really be getting somewhere.  Especially if it got onto one of those shows like tosh.o

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Re: Sympathy for the Devil, Part 2: Bad memes.
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2010, 05:08:58 pm »
Meme Virus was a good idea, and you should be more proud of it.  :)

And looking at the ideas I've got, and the ones in that thread, it sounds like more or less the same sort of [Pratchett lingo] headology.

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Re: Sympathy for the Devil, Part 2: Bad memes.
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2010, 06:25:00 am »
I think part of it is the odd sound of Japanese>English translations, and the demented fervor of his rhetoric.

Do we have any people who speak Japanese?  If so, we should consult them.  What makes his saying unique is definitely the tone of the translations.  That's the meme hook.  When there's enough of those phrases flying around, people will start making up their own.
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Re: Sympathy for the Devil, Part 2: Bad memes.
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2010, 07:06:25 pm »
I think part of it is the odd sound of Japanese>English translations, and the demented fervor of his rhetoric.

Do we have any people who speak Japanese?  If so, we should consult them.  What makes his saying unique is definitely the tone of the translations.  That's the meme hook.  When there's enough of those phrases flying around, people will start making up their own.
Doesn't Abbess Jade speak Japanese?
I think so. She hasn't been on in a while though.
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Re: Sympathy for the Devil, Part 2: Bad memes.
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2010, 07:57:38 pm »
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Re: Sympathy for the Devil, Part 2: Bad memes.
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2010, 08:01:08 pm »
A very Bad Meme...

I never gave up on the thought but long since moved on from the dream.
For I saw what madness was brought by my very  first viral meme.
I thought it was clever by far with wit sharp as any I’d seen.
I’d soon be an Internet Star from my very own viral meme.
It was everyone’s favorite obsession and Facebook and MySpace were keen
to answer too personal questions in the latest new viral meme.
It took me three weeks and a day to plan and connive and to scheme,
But I thought it was mostly wordplay when they called it a viral meme.
Now thousands are dead and the dying, fill the air with a concerted scream.
For alas! Without even trying I launched a fatally viral meme.

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Re: Sympathy for the Devil, Part 2: Bad memes.
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2010, 12:00:06 pm »
Meme idea:  Recognition and skepticism of memes.

Spread the understanding of memes' nature, and instill the idea that they can be bad for you.

It's a start.  If this idea can be changed to accommodate for 'good' memes, then I think we'd have a winner.

When I was in high school we had something like this. It was called Discourse. People didn't understand it, the education institutuin did a shit job of articulating what it was and why it mattered. Now there's been a very concious movement AWAY from this, towards a focus on Literature, Literacy and Language.
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Re: Sympathy for the Devil, Part 2: Bad memes.
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2010, 12:02:34 pm »
I think part of it is the odd sound of Japanese>English translations, and the demented fervor of his rhetoric.

Do we have any people who speak Japanese?  If so, we should consult them.  What makes his saying unique is definitely the tone of the translations.  That's the meme hook.  When there's enough of those phrases flying around, people will start making up their own.

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If sheep entrails could in any way be related to the weather, i.e. sheep trails only originate where it rains, then you could use it as an accurate model for discerning what the weathers going to be like. Either, sheep shit makes it rain, or raining makes sheep shit. Sheep don't shit "randomly" sheep shit after they eat, it doesn't rain "randomly" it rains after water collects in the atmosphere.

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Re: Sympathy for the Devil, Part 2: Bad memes.
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2010, 08:29:53 am »
memefluenza?

Not sure where you caught it carl, but I'm going to have to give you this meme shot. Hurt? Na the Dok says you spags need one of these almost weekly. Myself I think it really depends on how long you been out in the wild and of course if you been hanging out with any pagans.  See now was that so bad, needle barely hurt. Now take two of these and call us in the morning
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Re: Sympathy for the Devil, Part 2: Bad memes.
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2010, 06:14:15 pm »
Meme idea:  Recognition and skepticism of memes.

Spread the understanding of memes' nature, and instill the idea that they can be bad for you.

It's a start.  If this idea can be changed to accommodate for 'good' memes, then I think we'd have a winner.

When I was in high school we had something like this. It was called Discourse. People didn't understand it, the education institutuin did a shit job of articulating what it was and why it mattered. Now there's been a very concious movement AWAY from this, towards a focus on Literature, Literacy and Language.

Oddly, I had a lot of teachers back in public school who made me want to engage in discourses.  Now it's just standard classroom practice for me; whenever I can lure a prof into a discourse I do.  Usually they try to deflect though. 

I think part of it is the odd sound of Japanese>English translations, and the demented fervor of his rhetoric.

Do we have any people who speak Japanese?  If so, we should consult them.  What makes his saying unique is definitely the tone of the translations.  That's the meme hook.  When there's enough of those phrases flying around, people will start making up their own.

Yo.

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