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Re: ATTN RUBY
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2010, 05:14:47 pm »
I don't know much about the higher maths, but basic mathmatics are 'abstract numbers' unless they are applied to something specific, ie, define 1 and that will either allow or disallow the answer to be 2.

An interesting link:

http://encyclopedia.farlex.com/mathematical

As for using confusing words and not making much sense, I probably read too many things that are not commonly read. As for spell check, if I am only my computer, I obviously use what is available, but from my bb, obviously it isn't.

Could we move on to something other than badgering me now? Shredding? Immaturity? These are not my issues.

Here is a fascinating read:

http://kasmana.people.cofc.edu/MATHFICT/mfview.php?callnumber=mf44

I hope to at some point come to better understand this, though:

http://www.transcendentalphysics.com/1calculus.html



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Re: ATTN RUBY
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2010, 05:22:28 pm »
Ruby, let me give you a couple little tips:
1. learn to look at the source of your info. The traditionalvalues.org link is GOING to have biased information. EOS. Ask.com is not a reliable source.
2. Quote the articles here. Explain why you think what you do in relation to them. We're not going to do your thinking for you, ok?
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Re: ATTN RUBY
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2010, 05:26:35 pm »
There's probably a reason for this. If a book is unintelligible to people with average to above average intelligence, it's probably not doing what it is supposed to.

LOGICAL INTERPRETATIONS OF THE CALCULUS
The calculus of distinctions is a very powerful analytical tool. Its most useful feature is the universal scope of its applicability. Because it may be used to analyze all types of conceptual, perceptual, and existential distinctions, it applies to all forms of inquiry. The key to the application of the calculus to a specific problem lies in the careful translation of the essential logic of linguistic, qualitative, or quantitative distinctions into precise logical forms. The calculus transcends most other forms of logical expression, and is well suited for application to the various problems of mathematical physics that have been addressed traditionally by the more explicit and restrictive means of numerical analysis. In this section we will further develop the calculus before pursuing the application of the theory of infinite continuity to the paradoxes and conflicts of relativity and quantum mechanics, and to the interaction between consciousness, matter and energy.
The symbols and expressions of the calculus of distinctions may be interpreted and applied to any expression dealing with conceptual, perceptual, and existential distinctions.

This facility was briefly demonstrated when we mapped the consequences of the primary expressions of the non-numerical arithmetic (Reference: the section on non-numerical arithmetic, where we obtained the set of standard logic tables). With the algebra of distinctions established, we may now expand the logical interpretation of the calculus to include algebraic expressions. We begin by recognizing the logical content or interpretation of some of the basic symbolic expressions of the calculus3. (see in Table 1).

A great number of logical consequences may be derived from the initial equations of the algebra of distinctions. Many such algebraic relations also have interesting and meaningful logical interpretations which prove useful in the application of the calculus (see Table 2).

 



 



These symbolic relations may be easily demonstrated by substitution and simplification. Their use will speed up algebraic transformations in applications to problems of logic and mathematical physics by facilitating the interpretation or simplification of a problem.

One additional operational rule is worth bringing up at this time:

Equivalent expressions at odd and even depths within a complex expression may be cancelled.

This may be stated because of the structure of the algebra of distinctions. The value of this rule lies in the fact that its use may result in the almost immediate reduction of a set of statements to the logical conclusion or conclusions which may be drawn from them. Compared to the step-by-step procedure of the standard methods of symbolic logic, the calculus is clearly more efficient.

An example will serve to illustrate the point. Consider the following set of statements:

1. A physicist (Physicist A) developed a method for measuring the speed of light coming from distant stars.

2. Another physicist (Albert Einstein) developed a theory (the theory of relativity) which states that all light, from whatever source, may exhibit only one speed, c, to any observer.

3. A number of physicists, (Physicists B through Z) made experimental observations confirming the theory of relativity.

4. Among the experimental observations of the group of Physicists B-Z, were several measurements of the speed of light from distant stars.

In order to apply symbolic logic to these statements, we first define the essential elements of the statements as follows.

Let a represent the results of Physicist A's measurements, while b represents the theory of relativity, c represents the singular speed of light predicted by the theory of relativity, d represents the results of Physicists B-Z's observations, and e represents the speed of light from distant stars.

Assuming that the four statements are true and interpreting them as statements in standard symbolic logic, we have:

      Step 1.

which may be regrouped as

    Step 2.

and reduced by substitution of

   and



into Step 2 to get

      Step 3.

thus the conclusion is which translates to the conclusion that Physicist A's method for measuring the speed of light from distant stars will yield the speed c.

Analysis of the same set of statements with the calculus of distinctions is accomplished by translating the four statements into the calculus using the logical equivalents of Table 2:

STATEMENT LOGICAL EQUIVALENTS
1  
2  
3  
4  

Combining the logical equivalents into one expression in accordance with Table 1, we have:



Applying the rule of cancellation of equivalent expressions in even and odd depths, we have:



i.e., Physicist A's method will yield the speed c.

This is, of course, a very simple example. However, it demonstrates the efficiency of the method. The rule applies equally well to more complex expressions with many separate distinctions and sub-partitions. For example, a complex expression like



may be quickly simplified by the rule to:



 


 
= aa by Ex. 3
 = a by Ex. 2

Simplification of a given complex expression may often be accomplished by more than one path. With practice comes greater familiarity with various theorems, consequences and methods, and greater facility at seeing the most efficient route to simplification or, in some cases, appropriate transformations to meaningful patterns or results. For example, an even quicker route to simplification of the expression used in the example above would be:




 
 by even-odd depth rule for c
 = a by reduction
(See Table 2)

One final note before we turn to applications of the theory and the calculus to questions of classical and modern physics: The calculus of distinctions presents a very effective method of testing hypotheses and theories. In the examples above, the statements were assumed to be valid. If, in the transformation of expressions obtained by the translation of verbal or quantitative statements into the calculus of distinctions, a clearly invalid expression is derived, two or more of the statements, assuming they were properly translated, must be in conflict, revealing a logical error in the theory or hypothesis as a whole.


I can bet that the 'average' person here already understands this kind of thing and I am laughingly playing catch up to just barely be average.
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Re: ATTN RUBY
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2010, 05:28:01 pm »
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Re: ATTN RUBY
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2010, 05:29:15 pm »
There's probably a reason for this. If a book is unintelligible to people with average to above average intelligence, it's probably not doing what it is supposed to.
A bunch of Math stuff and...


I can bet that the 'average' person here already understands this kind of thing and I am laughingly playing catch up to just barely be average.

Maybe that is because you do not have the proper education?


ALSO WTF does Calculus have to do with..nevermind, it is obvious you are that stupid.

Stringing together random shit.
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Re: ATTN RUBY
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2010, 05:33:45 pm »
Ruby, let me give you a couple little tips:
1. learn to look at the source of your info. The traditionalvalues.org link is GOING to have biased information. EOS. Ask.com is not a reliable source.
2. Quote the articles here. Explain why you think what you do in relation to them. We're not going to do your thinking for you, ok?

I did consider it before using it, and it didn't seem biased to me. I figured it would not be welcomed by everyone. Also, ask.com may not be the most reliable source, but I used it to make a point that when teens do searches, they use sites as such. Google, for that matter, did not offer up much different resources, if any.

The whole reason of giving so many resources was to give a broader point. I am not closed minded at all toward others' happiness, however, I have studied and researched this very topic because of youthful experiences with those that were dear to me. I read the articles, to quote them seemed to be redundant at the time.
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Re: ATTN RUBY
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2010, 05:38:32 pm »
ALSO WTF does Calculus have to do with..nevermind, it is obvious you are that stupid.
Stringing together random shit.

It isn't random, I just perhaps should not have shared it. What fields do you seriously think I should be studying? It seems rather than not reading it, I should not attempt reiterate it. :mrgreen:
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« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2010, 05:41:14 pm »
Calculus is beside the point. You attempted to use it to draw our attention away from you.

Ruby, let me give you a couple little tips:
1. learn to look at the source of your info. The traditionalvalues.org link is GOING to have biased information. EOS. Ask.com is not a reliable source.
2. Quote the articles here. Explain why you think what you do in relation to them. We're not going to do your thinking for you, ok?

I did consider it before using it, and it didn't seem biased to me. I figured it would not be welcomed by everyone. Also, ask.com may not be the most reliable source, but I used it to make a point that when teens do searches, they use sites as such. Google, for that matter, did not offer up much different resources, if any.

The whole reason of giving so many resources was to give a broader point. I am not closed minded at all toward others' happiness, however, I have studied and researched this very topic because of youthful experiences with those that were dear to me. I read the articles, to quote them seemed to be redundant at the time.
That might be a hint that your opinion has little, if any legitimate basis. And of course traditionalvalue.org wouldn't seem biased to you. :roll: Why am I not surprised?

I repeat: we're not going to think for you. Quoting sections is useful. Even if you don't do that, GIVE US YOUR ANALYSIS. I don't give a shit about you giving us a broader point if you don't explain anything! I'll also add that not everyone can see your articles - Cram can't see one of them because of websense. Quoting them is a good idea just for that.

Tip #3: cherry picking quotes and ignoring what you can't answer will make you look pathetic and even more of a target.
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« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2010, 05:41:41 pm »
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« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2010, 05:56:10 pm »
There's probably a reason for this. If a book is unintelligible to people with average to above average intelligence, it's probably not doing what it is supposed to.
I can bet that the 'average' person here already understands this kind of thing and I am laughingly playing catch up to just barely be average.

Ok, so you can copy and paste a textbook. Awesome.
But considering you've already been quoted as knowing that you're not particularly bright, I would guess that the confusion that arises from trying to understand you is that you don't really understand yourself, since you've shown that you're good at regurgitating information that you have been fed. There's a problem with regurgitating though. What goes in as food comes out as a stinky chunky mess with no discernable pattern.
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Re: ATTN RUBY
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2010, 05:57:35 pm »




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As for spell check, if I am only my computer, I obviously use what is available, but from my bb, obviously it isn't.

Am I only my computer?  Is my computer me?  Without my computer, what am I?  :?
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Re: ATTN RUBY
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2010, 06:23:04 pm »
Ergo I can a right douchebag about anything relating to homosexuality. I mean I can't be a bigot if I have fags for friends amirite? -channeling Ruby

You are horrible at channeling so keep your mouth shut.

http://gaylife.about.com/od/gayteens/a/gaysuicide.htm

and yet a slightly more interesting 'take' on it:

http://www.traditionalvalues.org/urban/five.php

not sure what the first link is supposed to mean

The second link gets blocked by my work firewall: "This Websense category is filtered: Racism and Hate."

The second link says that stuff like the first link (i.e. anything which reports the high incidence of suicide among homosexual and bisexual teens) is ghey agenda poo-poo nonsense designed to... um, promote "recruitment and seduction" of kids in public schools... :? Apparently "Be a gay teen, and you'll be statistically more likely to commit suicide!" is a "recruitment" technique. Yeah. Also gays are child molesters and shouldn't be allowed in schools.

And according to Ruby, this source not biased. Because, you know, it coincides with what she already believes. We know this to be the case since she has, completely out of context of the conversation, conflated homosexuals with child molesters (note: this is the part where she says it doesn't count, 'cause she said it on TCC and not here).


BUT IT'S OKAY FOR HER TO SAY THIS STUFF BECAUSE SHE HAS SOME GAY FRIENDS


ALSO I HAVE JEWISH FRIENDS,  BUT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THEY'RE ALL GREEDY MISERS WITH A GENETIC PREDISPOSITION TOWARDS BEING AWFUL PEOPLE AND THEY ARE IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING. THEY REALLY OUGHTN'T TO BE ALLOWED INTO INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER EDUCATION; THEY CONTROL TOO MANY OF THE HIGHLY EDUCATED POSITIONS IN SOCIETY AS IT IS. BUT I'M NOT ANTI-SEMITIC, JUST POINTING OUT UNBIASED FACTS.

ALSO MY BLACK FRIENDS WILL TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IF I POINT OUT THAT THEIR PEOPLE ARE UNINTELLIGENT, AGGRESSIVE, BORN CRIMINALS. I MEAN THAT CAN BE THE ONLY REASON THERE'S SO MANY OF THEM IN PRISON, RIGHT? IT'S, LIKE, SCIENCE, PEOPLE.


Basically, Ruby is not simply a dim bulb. She is scum.




And now this is the part where she replies with rationalizing, strawmen, deflection, and variations of "No, you!" statements.

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Re: ATTN RUBY
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2010, 06:25:21 pm »
Hey Ruby,

So as I understand it, you're a TCC member who has become curious about the Discordians who seem to use TCC as a playground. From what I understand, you've come over here to observe... or maybe to use our board as your own playground?

Nope. There are a few distractive threads, but for the most part, I have found a wealth of really great links and have enjoyed the little bit of extra reading.

I wonder
Have you found what you were looking for?

And what do you think that would be?

Have you found the emotional charge you've been seeking?

Says who?

Are you feeling dismissive, or holier than thou yet? I see that you've gone from thread to thread posting eyeroll emotes, and condescending snark - I wonder if you think this is, perhaps, giving the Discordians "a taste of their own medicine"? If you are not here for ego reasons, I do wonder why you've assumed a sort of condescending / snide posture.
Either way, I do hope you stick around and we get to hear more of your lovely opinions.

Um, well, thank you, ever so kindly. I'm not at all feeling dismissive nor holier than thou at all. Egotism isn't my way, hence the self-belittling that I am so commonly known for. I am not aiming to be snide, just perhaps returning the flavours given is all.

Try again, but with the understanding that Cram's questions were genuine, not sarcastic or snarky.

Unlike, for example, my statements, which are deliberately worded to antagonize you.

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« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2010, 06:31:23 pm »
Why is this fucking moron getting all of this attention?

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« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2010, 06:33:16 pm »
Why is this fucking moron getting all of this attention?

I think it's been a while since we had a bona-fide bigoted tool make their presence known here, and we're getting our hateshit out. I find it cathartic, personally.