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Re: Government now has right to track you using GPS
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2010, 07:29:41 pm »
The comments at that link make me want to vomit.

America deserves this.

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People are always afraid of a police state.... who is terrified of the government tracking them via GPS, except for those that are going where they shouldn't? They can track me all they want.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2013150,00.html?hpt=T2#ixzz0xdtfH9qs

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

This is why our rights are being ripped from us.

Bullshit.  We're giving them away.

Unfortunately this is an accurate statement. God Bless Apathy and Safety, right?

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Re: Government now has right to track you using GPS
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2010, 07:31:01 pm »
I read about this a couple of years ago.  Cops in states all over the country have BEEN using it, but evidence gathered this way hasn't been being used in criminal cases, only to help gather OTHER evidence.  

They didn't want the people or their city government and judges finding out they were doing it, so they never tried to submit evidence that pointed to the fact that they used them.

Someone blew the lid on it a few years ago and the cops fessed up, but claimed to be able to do it regardless of the 4th amendment, claiming it's gathering no more evidence against the person than they would gain by tailing a suspect in person.

The whole thing stinks like a dockyard whore's vagina.

not that I know what that would smell like..  

srsly.
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Re: Government now has right to track you using GPS
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2010, 07:38:47 pm »
So, is this something they were allowed to do before, but only with a warrant?

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Re: Government now has right to track you using GPS
« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2010, 07:39:51 pm »
It's new tech, presumably they'd be allowed to do it with a warrant (I can't think of a reason why not anyway), but as far as I know they've never requested a warrant for it.
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Re: Government now has right to track you using GPS
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2010, 07:44:30 pm »
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So, is this something they were allowed to do before, but only with a warrant?

Judges weren't being told it was common practice to track a suspect this way.
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Re: Government now has right to track you using GPS
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2010, 07:44:45 pm »
From the article;

In fact, the government violated Pineda-Moreno's privacy rights in two different ways. For starters, the invasion of his driveway was wrong. The courts have long held that people have a reasonable expectation of privacy in their homes and in the "curtilage," a fancy legal term for the area around the home. The government's intrusion on property just a few feet away was clearly in this zone of privacy.

The judges veered into offensiveness when they explained why Pineda-Moreno's driveway was not private. It was open to strangers, they said, such as delivery people and neighborhood children, who could wander across it uninvited.



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Re: Government now has right to track you using GPS
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2010, 07:45:44 pm »
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So, is this something they were allowed to do before, but only with a warrant?

Judges weren't being told it was common practice to track a suspect this way.

Can you provide links?

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Re: Government now has right to track you using GPS
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2010, 07:47:26 pm »
A fence is not that difficult or expensive to put up.  It is kind of a pain in the butt to have to open a gate every time you pull into your driveway.  Having driveway gates (which can be as simple as a length of barbwire that you pull aside to get into your driveway) going up across suburbia would be greatly amusing.

I'm also curious what happens when some media sort plants a GPS on a rich person's car when it is not in their protected driveway.  
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Re: Government now has right to track you using GPS
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2010, 07:49:49 pm »
A fence is not that difficult or expensive to put up.  It is kind of a pain in the butt to have to open a gate every time you pull into your driveway.  Having driveway gates (which can be as simple as a length of barbwire that you pull aside to get into your driveway) going up across suburbia would be greatly amusing.

I'm also curious what happens when some media sort plants a GPS on a rich person's car when it is not in their protected driveway.  

That just pushes the burden down to people who live in apartments if it becomes widespread though.
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Re: Government now has right to track you using GPS
« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2010, 07:52:02 pm »
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So, is this something they were allowed to do before, but only with a warrant?

Judges weren't being told it was common practice to track a suspect this way.

Can you provide links?

Id have to do some serious digging.  It's been awhile since I read that article.  Let me see what I can find.
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Re: Government now has right to track you using GPS
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2010, 07:56:45 pm »
A fence is not that difficult or expensive to put up.  It is kind of a pain in the butt to have to open a gate every time you pull into your driveway.  Having driveway gates (which can be as simple as a length of barbwire that you pull aside to get into your driveway) going up across suburbia would be greatly amusing.

I'm also curious what happens when some media sort plants a GPS on a rich person's car when it is not in their protected driveway.  

That just pushes the burden down to people who live in apartments if it becomes widespread though.

You could always just put a barbed wire fence around your car!

...or maybe just get a "No Trespassing" bumper sticker?

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Re: Government now has right to track you using GPS
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2010, 07:57:27 pm »
The judges veered into offensiveness when they explained why Pineda-Moreno's driveway was not private.

Because he's HIS-PANIC, obviously.  Suddenly, all becomes clear.

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Re: Government now has right to track you using GPS
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2010, 07:58:32 pm »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/12/AR2008081203275_3.html

Washington Post article from 2008.  Not sure if this was the first time I heard about it, but it's clear from the story they were using it well before then, and some judges in some states have weighed in on it, and most have declared they don't need a warrant.

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Re: Government now has right to track you using GPS
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2010, 07:59:02 pm »
SMUDGY PEOPLE GETS NO RIGHTS!

And since most of them are also poor, marginalizing this type of "right" on the basis of who can own property big enough to secure their belongings makes a clear path to which way the courts were awarding this one.

It's fucktarded in the extreme.

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Re: Government now has right to track you using GPS
« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2010, 07:59:26 pm »
SMUDGY PEOPLE GETS NO RIGHTS!

And since most of them are also poor, marginalizing this type of "right" on the basis of who can own property big enough to secure their belongings makes a clear path to which way the courts were awarding this one.

It's fucktarded in the extreme.

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