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#'s on the Teaparty
« on: October 06, 2010, 08:39:53 pm »
and it's what I suspected. The worse kept secret ever. It turns out it is not a secular libertarian movement. But a conservative Christian movement.

http://www.publicreligion.org/research/?id=386

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    *  But the survey challenged much of the other conventional wisdom about Americans who consider themselves part of the Tea Party movement:
          o Nearly half (47%) also say they are part of the religious right or conservative Christian movement. Among the more than 8-in-10 (81%) who identify as Christian within the Tea Party movement, 57% also consider themselves part of the Christian conservative movement.
          o They make up just 11% of the adult population—half the size of the conservative Christian movement (22%).
          o They are mostly social conservatives, not libertarians on social issues. Nearly two-thirds (63%) say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, and less than 1-in-5 (18%) support allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry.
          o They are largely Republican partisans. More than three-quarters say they identify with (48%) or lean towards (28%) the Republican Party. More than 8-in-10 (83%) say they are voting for or leaning towards Republican candidates in their districts, and nearly three-quarters (74%) of this group report usually supporting Republican candidates.

Also they are smaller then suspected. If they are only 11% and half of that is already a part of the 22% conservative Christian movement movement it's not really that important of a voting block.

http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/sarahposner/3500/the_tea_party_religion/

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t RD, we've been telling the story of tea party religion for a while, whether it was the tea party presence at Values Voters Summits, the influence of Mormonism on the movement, or the role of Christian Reconstructionism in tea party politics. Over the past year or more, sources have described to me coalition-building between tea party groups and religious right groups, and the shared essential belief  that the country's founding documents declare God-given individual rights -- ones that protect, conservatives say, both people from government "tyranny" and fetuses from abortion....
...But the culture wars in the tea party era are framed bigger: what tea party-religious right fusion artists like South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint frame  as broadened "moral issues" rooted in "Judeo-Christian" values. Thus everything -- including the economy -- falls into that category. And to want the whole government and economy run according to Jim DeMint's "Judeo Christian" belief system -- as opposed to those beliefs just driving anti-gay or anti-abortion policies -- is a much grander dream for conservatives, and one that the religious right brings to the tea party, along with its bigger share of the voter pool.
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Re: #'s on the Teaparty
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2010, 08:42:10 pm »
I saw these numbers and literally breathed a sigh of relief.

Then I got pissed that the media gave such power to 10% of the country. Stupid fuckin media.
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2010, 10:57:30 pm »
I saw these numbers and literally breathed a sigh of relief.

Then I got pissed that the media gave such power to 10% of the country. Stupid fuckin media.

I wasnt relieved.
I had my money riding on them splitting the Republican vote and ensuring 4 more years of Obamas Socialist Republic of Hitlerstan.
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2010, 11:47:25 am »
Well, first of, we are still in midterm season.  2012 is still 2 years away. 
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I think by the time the Presidential election is in full swing, the Tea Party will be pretty much done.  It's a political fad and it won't stick around.  Especially since some of their candidates are going to end up losing, and in the case of Chrstine O'Donnel, losing badly.

The GOP won't stand for that.  THey'll be kicking their TP asses to the curb.  Sarah Palin will reinvent herself again as a loyal establishment Republican, and life will go on.

But honestly, as  :kingmeh: as Obama has been.  I think the current crop of GOP hopefuls aren't going to cut it against him.  The one with the best shot is probably Romney but I don't see him having the ability to garner enough votes to win. 

Now, I wouldn't be too surprised if Palin does throw her hat in the ring.  It would be spectaular if she did and picked O'Donnel as a running mate. 
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2010, 02:20:40 pm »
Well, first of, we are still in midterm season.  2012 is still 2 years away. 
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I think by the time the Presidential election is in full swing, the Tea Party will be pretty much done.  It's a political fad and it won't stick around.  Especially since some of their candidates are going to end up losing, and in the case of Chrstine O'Donnel, losing badly.

The GOP won't stand for that.  THey'll be kicking their TP asses to the curb.  Sarah Palin will reinvent herself again as a loyal establishment Republican, and life will go on.

But honestly, as  :kingmeh: as Obama has been.  I think the current crop of GOP hopefuls aren't going to cut it against him.  The one with the best shot is probably Romney but I don't see him having the ability to garner enough votes to win. 

Now, I wouldn't be too surprised if Palin does throw her hat in the ring.  It would be spectaular if she did and picked O'Donnel as a running mate. 



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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2010, 02:28:15 pm »
I saw these numbers and literally breathed a sigh of relief.

Then I got pissed that the media gave such power to 10% of the country. Stupid fuckin media.

agreed.

It's always the loudest 20% that gets 80% of the attention.

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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2010, 02:44:18 pm »
Well, first of, we are still in midterm season.  2012 is still 2 years away. 
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I think by the time the Presidential election is in full swing, the Tea Party will be pretty much done.  It's a political fad and it won't stick around.  Especially since some of their candidates are going to end up losing, and in the case of Chrstine O'Donnel, losing badly.

The GOP won't stand for that.  THey'll be kicking their TP asses to the curb.  Sarah Palin will reinvent herself again as a loyal establishment Republican, and life will go on.

But honestly, as  :kingmeh: as Obama has been.  I think the current crop of GOP hopefuls aren't going to cut it against him.  The one with the best shot is probably Romney but I don't see him having the ability to garner enough votes to win. 

Now, I wouldn't be too surprised if Palin does throw her hat in the ring.  It would be spectaular if she did and picked O'Donnel as a running mate. 

Romney's a has-been.  He's not going anywhere, even in the primary.

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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2010, 02:46:47 pm »
UGH WE SHALL SEE..

it fills me with such glee to vote against him and huckabee.

I'll take 10 John McCains over one Romney/Huckabee platform.

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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2010, 03:06:11 pm »
The only problem I see is whether or not those are percentages of population, or percentages of people who actually vote; and it appears that Tea Party members are more likely to vote.

The average percentage of eligible voters who actually cast a ballot during midterm elections is about 37%. Now, the math on this makes my head hurt, so I'm going to make a rough example:

100 eligible voters, with 10 tea partiers.
Only 30 people vote, but that contains all 10 teabaggers, leaving 20 non-bags.
As typical, the non-baggers are roughly equal, so 10 vote D, 10 vote R.
Whichever way the baggers vote, wins the election.

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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2010, 03:06:30 pm »
UGH WE SHALL SEE..

it fills me with such glee to vote against him and huckabee.

I'll take 10 John McCains over one Romney/Huckabee platform.

You'll need 10, because they'll be dying like flies.

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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2010, 03:06:59 pm »
The only problem I see is whether or not those are percentages of population, or percentages of people who actually vote; and it appears that Tea Party members are more likely to vote.

The average percentage of eligible voters who actually cast a ballot during midterm elections is about 37%. Now, the math on this makes my head hurt, so I'm going to make a rough example:

100 eligible voters, with 10 tea partiers.
Only 30 people vote, but that contains all 10 teabaggers, leaving 20 non-bags.
As typical, the non-baggers are roughly equal, so 10 vote D, 10 vote R.
Whichever way the baggers vote, wins the election.


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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2010, 03:29:48 pm »
The only problem I see is whether or not those are percentages of population, or percentages of people who actually vote; and it appears that Tea Party members are more likely to vote.

The average percentage of eligible voters who actually cast a ballot during midterm elections is about 37%. Now, the math on this makes my head hurt, so I'm going to make a rough example:

100 eligible voters, with 10 tea partiers.
Only 30 people vote, but that contains all 10 teabaggers, leaving 20 non-bags.
As typical, the non-baggers are roughly equal, so 10 vote D, 10 vote R.
Whichever way the baggers vote, wins the election.


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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2010, 03:40:38 pm »
"One Nation under God".

The camps will be filling up if this goes bad.

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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2010, 12:04:07 am »
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2010, 12:09:14 am »
I have a plan. After careful consideration I have decided to start preaching to the Holy Speed Limit Sign in my yard. I will develop a reputation and thereby earn a place as a re-educator in the coming camps.

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