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DADT, yes, again
« on: December 15, 2010, 10:49:45 pm »
The House of Representatives voted Wednesday to overturn the ban on openly gay and lesbian soldiers serving in the U.S. military, passing legislation repealing the controversial "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

The bill -- a so-called "standalone" measure not tied to any other legislative items -- passed 250 to 175 in a virtual party-line vote. It now advances to the Senate.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/12/15/gays.in.military/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 10:52:30 pm »
Roger: You're the political bookie here, what are the odds on the republicans *not* filibustering this?
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2010, 11:02:17 pm »
Well, I'm not Roger, but the GOP wants to go home for Xmas.

With a stacked legislative agenda to pass before the end of the year, the latest battle in the Senate centers on when members will head home to their districts to celebrate Christmas.

After Senate Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nevada, left the door open to keeping the Senate in session through the holiday, Arizona Republican Sen. Jon Kyl accused him of "disrespecting one of the two holiest of holidays for Christians."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/15/senators-argue-over-christmas/

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2010, 11:19:37 pm »
The type of filibustering the republicans are doing doesn't require them to actually be there.  God forbid our politicians be expected to work.
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2010, 11:22:59 pm »
The type of filibustering the republicans are doing doesn't require them to actually be there.  God forbid our politicians be expected to work.

From the same article.

"Yet some of my Republican colleagues have the nerve to whine about having to stay in action to do the work that the American people pay us to do," Reid said. "We could work, as most Americans do, during the holidays. Perhaps Senators Kyl and DeMint have been in Washington too long."

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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2010, 02:56:30 pm »
I believe Olympia Snow and Susan Collins are both on board with repealing DADT, and I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Scott Brown is in that boat too.  It seems to me if it is brought to the Senate floor the GOP will not be able to filibuster it. 
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2010, 03:01:10 pm »
Snowe and Collins are in on the scam.

The Scam (for those of you who don't know it):

Collins or Snowe supports DADT repeal "in theory", but insist on certain procedural compromises that then allow the explicit opponenents of DADT to kill the bill entirely.  It's the Great Moderate Republican Scam, and it works for everyone except all the non-heterosexual people in the military.

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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2010, 03:05:04 pm »
Snow and Collins didn't vote for 911 responders getting health care.  Fuck them in their faces.

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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2010, 03:07:14 pm »
Collins is up for re-election in 2012 and the Tea Party are already telling Collins she will get a primary challenge.  Expect her to shed her RINO-ness for the next couple of years.  So I think you could only really count on Snowe at this point.  Collins' support should be taken with a healthy dose of skepticism. 
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2010, 09:09:57 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2010, 09:12:12 pm »
Considering the military has been asking for feedback from service members for the past 3-4 months on DADT and the Pentagon concluded that it would not negatively impact readiness....they all need to grow up.

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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2010, 09:15:24 pm »
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females are a major burden on the military


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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2010, 09:24:28 pm »
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DTDA should be the decision of our military leadership not the community organizer President who couldn't punch a hole in a paper bag or Congressmen and women who have never served in our armed forces. We do not need the politicians legislating for the gay community in this country. Military leadership should make this decision because they are on the front lines and understand troop morale and feelings and have the ultimate responsibility for protecting this country; not the yellow bellies in the Congress. It is an absolute joke that the President of the United States is considered the "commander in chief." This buffon couldn't even lead a troop of boy scouts to a water hole.

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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2010, 09:29:34 pm »
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DTDA should be the decision of our military leadership not the community organizer President who couldn't punch a hole in a paper bag or Congressmen and women who have never served in our armed forces. We do not need the politicians legislating for the gay community in this country. Military leadership should make this decision because they are on the front lines and understand troop morale and feelings and have the ultimate responsibility for protecting this country; not the yellow bellies in the Congress. It is an absolute joke that the President of the United States is considered the "commander in chief." This buffon couldn't even lead a troop of boy scouts to a water hole.

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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2010, 09:37:04 pm »
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DTDA should be the decision of our military leadership not the community organizer President who couldn't punch a hole in a paper bag or Congressmen and women who have never served in our armed forces. We do not need the politicians legislating for the gay community in this country. Military leadership should make this decision because they are on the front lines and understand troop morale and feelings and have the ultimate responsibility for protecting this country; not the yellow bellies in the Congress. It is an absolute joke that the President of the United States is considered the "commander in chief." This buffon couldn't even lead a troop of boy scouts to a water hole.

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Sounds like someone who never served whining. :lulz:

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