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Re: Why Do You Think They Call It "Programming"? (Part 1)
« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2011, 08:51:49 pm »
Sweet.  I might do something with this, and I'd like to throw yours in, as well...With attribution.  If you agree, just let me know how you want to be credited.

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Will do, either tonight or tomorrow.
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« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2011, 08:55:35 pm »
That is incredibly tempting, but my exercise equipment (gamercise stuff) plugs into my TV, and if I shot their TV they'd just start using mine instead.

It's a remote for PEOPLE.
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Re: Why Do You Think They Call It "Programming"? (Part 1)
« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2011, 08:56:24 pm »
That is incredibly tempting, but my exercise equipment (gamercise stuff) plugs into my TV, and if I shot their TV they'd just start using mine instead.

It's a remote for PEOPLE.

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Re: Why Do You Think They Call It "Programming"? (Part 1)
« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2011, 08:58:10 pm »
I think not then.

I could split the difference between Roger and Charlie's solution and shoot the satellite dish though.  It'd probably take a week for them to figure out what went wrong.   :lulz:
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Re: Why Do You Think They Call It "Programming"? (Part 1)
« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2011, 08:59:37 pm »
I think not then.

I could split the difference between Roger and Charlie's solution and shoot the satellite dish though.  It'd probably take a week for them to figure out what went wrong.   :lulz:

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Re: Why Do You Think They Call It "Programming"? (Part 1)
« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2011, 09:00:08 pm »
I think not then.

I could split the difference between Roger and Charlie's solution and shoot the satellite dish though.  It'd probably take a week for them to figure out what went wrong.   :lulz:

Too easy, see those little white caps on the arm in front of the dish? They are called LNB's. (low noise blockers)

A small crack in each one should do it just fine.

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Re: Why Do You Think They Call It "Programming"? (Part 1)
« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2011, 09:23:56 pm »

Stopped the TV since 11 years ago...

I might have escaped the commercials and the passive-vegetable assimilation process of information... but can we really be freed from the distance we have made from reality? I spend way too much time on the internet, whereas i could hypothetically be doing something else... but i owe the internet a lot of what i know of... maybe one day i will have gotten what i need from it and will be able to cut back on it significantly...

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« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2011, 09:25:53 pm »

Stopped the TV since 11 years ago...

I might have escaped the commercials and the passive-vegetable assimilation process of information... but can we really be freed from the distance we have made from reality? I spend way too much time on the internet, whereas i could hypothetically be doing something else... but i owe the internet a lot of what i know of... maybe one day i will have gotten what i need from it and will be able to cut back on it significantly...

On the net you have the choice of what is blasting at you, for now. That's the difference.

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Re: Why Do You Think They Call It "Programming"? (Part 1)
« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2011, 09:36:45 pm »

Stopped the TV since 11 years ago...

I might have escaped the commercials and the passive-vegetable assimilation process of information... but can we really be freed from the distance we have made from reality? I spend way too much time on the internet, whereas i could hypothetically be doing something else... but i owe the internet a lot of what i know of... maybe one day i will have gotten what i need from it and will be able to cut back on it significantly...

I want to point out that I think TV is dangerous because it's passive entertainment. When you watch TV, there's no way to participate, you are simply absorbing somebody else's point of view. I think the internet has the same danger, but at least you have a choice about it. Even though we are all PHYSICALLY isolating ourselves to use this medium, what we're doing here is a creative process, we are interacting with each other -- this is a social medium!

I don't think that the internet is less real than other forms of interaction, it's just different. People get nervous about this medium, but I think a lot of it is based on the incorrect assumption that it's less authentic than face to face interaction.

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Re: Why Do You Think They Call It "Programming"? (Part 1)
« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2011, 09:51:45 pm »

I know that sometimes physical isolation cant be helped, but im always wary of it...

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Re: Why Do You Think They Call It "Programming"? (Part 1)
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2011, 09:56:15 pm »
I gave up TV, for the most part, about four years ago.  Before that I had several shows I watched every week.  It was like an addiction.  I used to be one of those people who turned on the TV as soon as I walked in the door from work.  Now I watch probably fewer than 20 hours of TV a year, and I don't miss it at all.  On the contrary, I like having the time I used to spend watching TV to spend on other things.

The rest of the family watches TV like I used to.  They look like pod people when they are all absorbed into some program.  Of course, I probably don't look any different when I'm on the computer.  

I like Roger's solutions for Requia in principle, but if I were to try something like that then Mrs. Zappathruster would just write a check out of the joint checking to have it fixed, so I'd just be costing myself money.
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Re: Why Do You Think They Call It "Programming"? (Part 1)
« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2011, 09:56:29 pm »
I've been to the bottom of that well, Roger.  It's a deep, dark and old thing and there's this tiny speck of blue light far away shedding the barest glow on life.  I can't remember if I went down of my own accord or if I fell; if my legs are atrophied or if they're crushed under a big fucking rock.

An ex and I used to sit and watch hours of DVDs of television shows, staying in for days and wasting almost two years in a very beautiful location.  What the hell kind of sad shit is it when a couple 21 year olds would rather pop in the next episode of Nip/Tuck than fuck?  How is it spending any kind of time together to lay around with one watching America's Next Top Model marathons and the other playing Nintendo DS?

So I stopped.  It takes a while to realize that you can just do that, with no repercussions.  I'm not abandoning my family if I don't find out if Jack and Kate ever hooked up on Lost.  Tell that to your cable provider though.  Comcast will charge you more for Internet alone than they will for Internet and basic cable.  It's as much a pushing tactic as the dealer telling you the first taste is free.

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Re: Why Do You Think They Call It "Programming"? (Part 1)
« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2011, 10:26:40 pm »
But programming-type advertisments really came into their own when visual media (television) became widely available, as they could present a standard that was always just out of reach of the average American.

This is true, reminds me of what I read in No Logo, about how before the 80s, advertisements were actually claiming their product (say, laundry detergent) was objectively better than another brand and really did clean your laundry better, because they were still developing stuff (or because they were just claiming it was better). It was not until the 80s [perhaps a littlebit earlier] that they started targeting advertisements at the brands instead, changing the message from "our product is better than product X" into "buying our product will make you happy", "will make you cool like these people", "our product makes you better".
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Re: Why Do You Think They Call It "Programming"? (Part 1)
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2011, 10:42:27 pm »
Living without television has been liberating.  It frees you.  I can't stand television.  I can't bear to face the reality that there are people who watch commercials.

It's a good thing to have done for a while, "detox" for a month or two. It really felt like that, for me. My old TV broke down many years ago and I was too lazy to get a new one. It felt like getting rid of that tough bit of meat between your teeth, like mental floss.

But nowadays I watch TV every now and then. Usually just when my gf turns it on though.

I gotta admit, Internet is just as bad for me, if not worse, because you are actually engaged in it, doing stuff, even if not accomplishing anything.

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Re: Why Do You Think They Call It "Programming"? (Part 1)
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2011, 11:39:51 pm »
Also, Roger, how the heck do I get *other* people to turn the TV off?  The damn thing never stops when anybody else is in the house.

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