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Re: World food crisis
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2011, 07:53:15 pm »
The Ministry of Agriculture said the drought had worsened in some wheat-growing regions despite snowfalls.

Large swathes of China have had almost no rain since October, affecting millions of hectares of crops and leaving many short of drinking water.

Analysts say crop shortages in China could affect prices around the world.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12497459

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Re: World food crisis
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2011, 08:28:28 pm »
It shouldn't effect the prices in America much (only about 2% of what you pay in the grocery store actually represents the cost of food, the rest is profit margins, processing, and distribution).  Its the third world that's screwed.
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Re: World food crisis
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2011, 12:08:05 am »
The land space issue might potentially be solved through vertical farming. There are plans to start building prototypes to see how viable they are.

This, and other ideas in this thread to boost food production all sound good.

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Re: World food crisis
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2011, 10:59:31 pm »
the way is see it the main problem is animal farming for each field of cows ten fields of food is needed so if we stopped the fast food culture we would be closer to a solution besides to my knowledge the European union is keeping massive food storages in case of emergency  8)
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« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2011, 02:10:13 am »
The land space issue might potentially be solved through vertical farming. There are plans to start building prototypes to see how viable they are.

Aquaponics could also help here, it's a fairly new technique, but it's been taking of in Australia and is getting more popular in other places as well.

Combine fish farming with hydroponics, with the fish water serving as the nutrient bath for teh hydro section.  It allows for fish farming without massive water use, hydro without expensive nutrients, and actually has a better yield than classic Hydro, all while requiring no arable land at all and using about 95% less water than dirt farming.
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Re: World food crisis
« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2011, 12:13:46 pm »
Hey guys, turns out over $80 billion was added to the Commodity Price Index over the last year.

Yeah, there was a bad drought in a couple of places, but a bad drought doesn't cause double or triple digit increases in costs over a single year.

However, throwing free money at banks to let them speculate on prices does, as we saw in 2008.

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« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2011, 04:30:48 am »
I am disturbed by everybody's assumption that to feed 7 billion people, we need to farm more. I'd just like to point out that vegetables and grains taste like crap unless they are side dishes next to a steak. Also, farming the shit out of the land causes the foods you grow on it to be pretty devoid of actual nutrients. Americans currently consume somewhere between zero and none of the iodine they should have, because all the corn fields have been depleted of iodine, and everything we eat is made out of corn.

So even if we grew all the food needed to keep people from starving to death, we'd still have a population of undernourished people.

The solution, obviously, is not to devote every square inch of available land on Earth to farming. It is to build giant domes on the Moon and raise cattle and pigs there. And if we build the right kind of slingshot, we could just fling them off the Moon's surface at earth, and they'd already be cooked by the time they landed.

Plus there would be cowboys on the Moon.
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Re: World food crisis
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2011, 12:17:14 pm »
Plus there would be cowboys on the Moon.

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« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2011, 12:24:46 pm »
Plus there would be cowboys on the Moon.

I'm sold.  Where do I sign up?

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Re: World food crisis
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2011, 01:59:05 pm »
I am disturbed by everybody's assumption that to feed 7 billion people, we need to farm more. I'd just like to point out that vegetables and grains taste like crap unless they are side dishes next to a steak. Also, farming the shit out of the land causes the foods you grow on it to be pretty devoid of actual nutrients. Americans currently consume somewhere between zero and none of the iodine they should have, because all the corn fields have been depleted of iodine, and everything we eat is made out of corn.

So even if we grew all the food needed to keep people from starving to death, we'd still have a population of undernourished people.

The solution, obviously, is not to devote every square inch of available land on Earth to farming. It is to build giant domes on the Moon and raise cattle and pigs there. And if we build the right kind of slingshot, we could just fling them off the Moon's surface at earth, and they'd already be cooked by the time they landed.

Plus there would be cowboys on the Moon.

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Re: World food crisis
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2011, 02:34:31 pm »
I am disturbed by everybody's assumption that to feed 7 billion people, we need to farm more. I'd just like to point out that vegetables and grains steak taste like crap unless they it are is aside dishes next to a steak vegetables and grains. Also, farming the shit out of the land causes the foods you grow on it to be pretty devoid of actual nutrients. Americans currently consume somewhere between zero and none of the iodine they should have, because all the corn fields have been depleted of iodine, and everything we eat is made out of corn.

So even if we grew all the food needed to keep people from starving to death, we'd still have a population of undernourished people.

The solution, obviously, is not to devote every square inch of available land on Earth to farming. It is to build giant domes on the Moon and raise cattle and pigs there. And if we build the right kind of slingshot, we could just fling them off the Moon's surface at earth, and they'd already be cooked by the time they landed.

Plus there would be cowboys on the Moon.

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Re: World food crisis
« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2011, 03:08:53 pm »
I am disturbed by everybody's assumption that to feed 7 billion people, we need to farm more. I'd just like to point out that vegetables and grains steak taste like crap unless they it are is aside dishes next to a steak vegetables and grains. Also, farming the shit out of the land causes the foods you grow on it to be pretty devoid of actual nutrients. Americans currently consume somewhere between zero and none of the iodine they should have, because all the corn fields have been depleted of iodine, and everything we eat is made out of corn.

So even if we grew all the food needed to keep people from starving to death, we'd still have a population of undernourished people.

The solution, obviously, is not to devote every square inch of available land on Earth to farming. It is to build giant domes on the Moon and raise cattle and pigs there. And if we build the right kind of slingshot, we could just fling them off the Moon's surface at earth, and they'd already be cooked by the time they landed.

Plus there would be cowboys on the Moon.

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Re: World food crisis
« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2011, 03:12:00 pm »
the more of the food chain you can consume in a single dish, the better.

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« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2011, 03:18:11 pm »
There are four food groups.

1.  Meat.  (If you can't define that, you're one of the people who fall under #3.)
2.  Accessories.  This is anything that goes with meat, like, potatoes.
3.  Decorations.  The green shit they put on the table for OTHER people to eat so there's more meat for the real people.
4.  Dessert.  ANYTHING (with enough sugar on it or in it) can be considered dessert.
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Re: World food crisis
« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2011, 03:35:18 pm »
There are four food groups.

1.  Meat.  (If you can't define that, you're one of the people who fall under #3.)
2.  Accessories.  This is anything that goes with meat, like, potatoes.
3.  Decorations.  The green shit they put on the table for OTHER people to eat so there's more meat for the real people.
4.  Dessert.  ANYTHING (with enough sugar on it or in it) can be considered dessert.

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