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Re: A little handy gaming advice #1: How to be invited back to a game table.
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2011, 06:23:35 pm »
#5 is my biggest pet peeve. I ran a game where the rogue would always wake up early the day before they started excavating a dungeon, just so he could sneak through it without them and map it out. He wanted this cool moment of the party waking up and he's already got a detailed map of the dungeon and some notes about the monsters. He got pissed when I told him he couldn't do that. "Buh-buh-buh.. but that's what my character wants to do..." Yeah dude, but that means that you and I play D&D for 30 minutes while everybody else's character is asleep. BOGUS.

Have him come over early.

And then have him run into 3 carrion crawlers in the dungeon (hint:  rogues don't do well solo, and their fort save sucks).

When he rolls up his new character, have him decide if rogue is really his best option.
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Re: A little handy gaming advice #1: How to be invited back to a game table.
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2011, 06:28:50 pm »
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been hooked on D&D since like ... 1994? Jesus, I was 12. My enjoyment of it has increased as the average age of people at my table has increased. I still think the hardest part of running a game is getting everybody together every week.

I'm playing with a group of complete newbies right now, it's kind of refreshing, but it's also a bit frustrating.


#5 is my biggest pet peeve. I ran a game where the rogue would always wake up early the day before they started excavating a dungeon, just so he could sneak through it without them and map it out. He wanted this cool moment of the party waking up and he's already got a detailed map of the dungeon and some notes about the monsters. He got pissed when I told him he couldn't do that. "Buh-buh-buh.. but that's what my character wants to do..." Yeah dude, but that means that you and I play D&D for 30 minutes while everybody else's character is asleep. BOGUS.

Incidentally, that same character would always try to start businesses in the adventurer's home city. So when they got back from an adventure, his clam farm would have some more pearls waiting for him. But jesus christ, this is D&D, not Sim City. The amount of time we spent talking about his goddamn clam farm could have been spent drinking ale of out skulls and we all would be better for it.

I got sick of the sim city behavior and the spending real life hours while they dick around in the shop. The shop keepers became the most ill tempered and dangerous aspects of the game, and like The Man, I kept them down in a poverty bracket that owning land or a business was forever out of reach (or until it became a convenient reward).

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Re: A little handy gaming advice #1: How to be invited back to a game table.
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2011, 06:29:03 pm »
The saddest thing, Barring the laptop thing which I've never seen and would probably have a shitfit about if I ever saw it, is that you see this shit in every group.
And even more baffling is that the slim few who appreciate this usually have at some stage been a gm.

The worst habit I had to stomp out of the group was the magpie syndrome.
They see a shiny object and nearly the whole group fall all over each other trying to get it first.

That's candy.   :lulz:  Illusion + pit o' vipers = WIN.

I've also stopped handing out "best roleplay" & "MVP" bonus XP, because everyone gets butthurt.
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I've dealt with shit like that.

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Re: A little handy gaming advice #1: How to be invited back to a game table.
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2011, 06:31:39 pm »
#5 is my biggest pet peeve. I ran a game where the rogue would always wake up early the day before they started excavating a dungeon, just so he could sneak through it without them and map it out. He wanted this cool moment of the party waking up and he's already got a detailed map of the dungeon and some notes about the monsters. He got pissed when I told him he couldn't do that. "Buh-buh-buh.. but that's what my character wants to do..." Yeah dude, but that means that you and I play D&D for 30 minutes while everybody else's character is asleep. BOGUS.

Have him come over early.

And then have him run into 3 carrion crawlers in the dungeon (hint:  rogues don't do well solo, and their fort save sucks).

When he rolls up his new character, have him decide if rogue is really his best option.

This.  If you can't gack a character who's wandered off to explore alone in ten minutes or less, you're not trying.

Cross-gender RP can actually be done very well.  However, anybody who can't RP someone of their own gender should never be permitted to RP someone of the other.  It's gonna suck worse.
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Re: A little handy gaming advice #1: How to be invited back to a game table.
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2011, 06:37:48 pm »
I got sick of the sim city behavior and the spending real life hours while they dick around in the shop. The shop keepers became the most ill tempered and dangerous aspects of the game, and like The Man, I kept them down in a poverty bracket that owning land or a business was forever out of reach (or until it became a convenient reward).

two of the good pieces of advice in the 4th edition Dungeon Master's Guide --

1. Encounters are the meat and bones of D&D. When players talk about cool shit that happened, 90% of the time they're talking about an encounter. If you're not in an encounter, you should be pushing the game towards the next one. Stop dicking around in shops, it doesn't increase people's enjoyment unless they're really into RPing their characters. Just get to the fucking action!

2. Everybody should get to play in every encounter. If it's a social scene, you need to come up with ways to keep the low-charisma players involved. Write traps so that it doesn't become the DM and the rogue rolling dice at each other while everybody else waits. If a divine being appears, he should talk to the whole party, not just the cleric.

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Re: A little handy gaming advice #1: How to be invited back to a game table.
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2011, 06:42:15 pm »
If a divine being appears, he should talk to the whole party, not just the cleric. get a new DM

Unless the PCs are epic level, Gods and their immediate henchthings shouldn't even have the PCs on their radar screens.
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Re: A little handy gaming advice #1: How to be invited back to a game table.
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2011, 06:46:16 pm »
That really depends on what your story is about and how you tell it.

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Re: A little handy gaming advice #1: How to be invited back to a game table.
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2011, 06:54:05 pm »
The saddest thing, Barring the laptop thing which I've never seen and would probably have a shitfit about if I ever saw it, is that you see this shit in every group.
And even more baffling is that the slim few who appreciate this usually have at some stage been a gm.

The worst habit I had to stomp out of the group was the magpie syndrome.
They see a shiny object and nearly the whole group fall all over each other trying to get it first.

That's candy.   :lulz:  Illusion + pit o' vipers = WIN.

I've also stopped handing out "best roleplay" & "MVP" bonus XP, because everyone gets butthurt.

I thought it was because we were getting too high level. :(


Also, #4 and #8 :crankey: SO VERY TRUE
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Re: A little handy gaming advice #1: How to be invited back to a game table.
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2011, 06:54:17 pm »
That really depends on what your story is about and how you tell it.

Sure, if your players enjoy the notion of Odin showing up and chatting over tea when they're 3rd level, I guess that works.

But it smells a bit too Deus Ex Dungeon Master to me.
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2011, 06:57:17 pm »
The saddest thing, Barring the laptop thing which I've never seen and would probably have a shitfit about if I ever saw it, is that you see this shit in every group.
And even more baffling is that the slim few who appreciate this usually have at some stage been a gm.

The worst habit I had to stomp out of the group was the magpie syndrome.
They see a shiny object and nearly the whole group fall all over each other trying to get it first.

That's candy.   :lulz:  Illusion + pit o' vipers = WIN.

I've also stopped handing out "best roleplay" & "MVP" bonus XP, because everyone gets butthurt.

I thought it was because we were getting too high level. :(


Also, #4 and #8 :crankey: SO VERY TRUE

It was both.  I stopped doing it because

1.  The party was on track for the campaign, experience-wise, and

2.  I didn't want to deal with the post-game one-upsmanship, especially for the role play bonus.  It came down to someone getting butthurt every session, and one or two people expecting it every time.

I'm supposed to be having fun, too, and dealing with XP feeding frenzies at the end of the evening wasn't helping matters.
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Re: A little handy gaming advice #1: How to be invited back to a game table.
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2011, 06:58:04 pm »
Oh. My bad. :sad:
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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2011, 06:59:35 pm »
Oh. My bad. :sad:

Wasn't just you.  Hell, Enabler would try to turn down the award when she got it, because she didn't want to deal with anyone else stressing that they didn't get it.
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Re: A little handy gaming advice #1: How to be invited back to a game table.
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2011, 07:02:02 pm »
Probably for the best, then.
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Re: A little handy gaming advice #1: How to be invited back to a game table.
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2011, 07:03:47 pm »
Probably for the best, then.

Yep.  I'm holding onto the cleansweep bonus, though, because it discourages table talk and the wandering off of players.
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Re: A little handy gaming advice #1: How to be invited back to a game table.
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2011, 07:04:32 pm »
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