You lost me at the fibonacci golden spiral bullshit.

I'll read through it again, don't worry, it looks interesting. But the whole fibonacci golden spiral is nature's magical golden constant that explains everything and appears throughout everywhere is a very very very tasty meme that has been fooling the fools for centuries.

See this thread here

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=29538.0Yes you can find lots of parallels with fibonacci numbers, golden ratios and pentagons and pentagrams, but that's all mathematics and number theory.

The lie is the part where they draw nature into it.

Did you measure the angles of those pictures of spiral galaxies? Bet you didn't. They're not golden spirals.

Neither are most sea shells, except by coincidence.

Neither is there any measurable human preference in designs for ratios of 1.618 (phi) versus 1.5 (3/2) or 1.666 (4/3). There is, however, evidence for preference of

superparticular numbers in design and music, which the ratios of 3/2 and 4/3 are.

Neither do most of those old architectural Greek, Egyptian, Roman or what-have-you buildings measure up to the golden ratio. Except approximately. Which means it could be 1.5 or 1.666 as well.

Plus you can cherry-pick which ratios you measure and which ones you don't so you don't have to fudge as much. That's what they did for the "analysis" of the Apple logo. Also, did you check whether any of those circles and rectangles actually have the golden ratio? Did you also check which ones suspiciously did NOT?

Phi, the Golden Ratio as it's supposed to be utterly ubiquitous in Nature is very much a Law of Fives thing. It becomes more apparent, the harder you look. Except it's a red herring.

Very useful to separate idiots that just like to regurgitate pretty pictures of sea-shells and spiral galaxies with magic pentagons and lines from the ones that actually bother to

*check* whether the image actually "proves" what they want to believe it proves

I'll re-read and check out the other stuff though. Seems fun.