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Roudinesco, Freud and Discordia
« on: August 21, 2011, 12:11:14 am »

Quote from:  Roudinesco, Elizabeth "The depressive society" - fragment of Chapter 1
...We know that the invention of Freud of a new configuration of the psyche, assumed the existance of a subject capable of interiorizing prohibitions. Inmersed in the unconscious and torn apart by a guilty conscience, this subject, freed to his pulsions by the death of god, finds itself always at war against himself. From this comes the freudian concept of neurosis, centered around discord, angst, guilt and sexual disorders. Nows, this is the idea of subjectivity, very characteristic of democratic societies, based itself on the permanent conflict between oneself and others, which tends to blur the contemporary mental organization in favour of the psychological notion of depressive personality...

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Re: Roudinesco, Freud and Discordia
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2011, 07:25:23 pm »

Quote from:  Roudinesco, Elizabeth "The depressive society" - fragment of Chapter 1
...We know that the invention of Freud of a new configuration of the psyche, assumed the existance of a subject capable of interiorizing prohibitions. Inmersed in the unconscious and torn apart by a guilty conscience, this subject, freed to his pulsions by the death of god, finds itself always at war against himself. From this comes the freudian concept of neurosis, centered around discord, angst, guilt and sexual disorders. Nows, this is the idea of subjectivity, very characteristic of democratic societies, based itself on the permanent conflict between oneself and others, which tends to blur the contemporary mental organization in favour of the psychological notion of depressive personality...

 :fnord:

That read like complete gobblygook. Also, Freud continues to be shit. I don't understand why psychologists keep presenting these hacks. It would be like Biologists constantly talking about Lamarck.
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Re: Roudinesco, Freud and Discordia
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2011, 09:52:20 pm »

I wasnt posting in seriousness, just cause i saw the word "discord" so i transcribed a paragraph, hence the " :fnord:"

This some book im gonna get sometime soon in RL, cause it deals with the issue of how pharmacological treatment of psychical suffering (for the most part) is mostly a strategy of normalization and avoiding social conflict.

She also speaks of how mostly "today"(circa 1999) suffering is expressed through "depression" in the form of sadness, apathy, cult of oneself and the search for identity...

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Re: Roudinesco, Freud and Discordia
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2011, 03:53:57 am »
Foucault's "History of Madness" might be interesting to you Joh'Nyx
"We can even have a lobby in Washington", Harding was saying, "an organization. NAAIP. Pressure groups. Big billboards along the highway showing a babbling schizophrenic running a wrecking machine, bold, red and green type: 'Hire the Insane.' We've got a rosy future, gentlemen."

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Re: Roudinesco, Freud and Discordia
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2011, 07:34:05 am »
I've beenreading Freuds work on dream psychology and he discusses 'psychic infextion' which seems to be conceptually aligned with modern Memetics.
If sheep entrails could in any way be related to the weather, i.e. sheep trails only originate where it rains, then you could use it as an accurate model for discerning what the weathers going to be like. Either, sheep shit makes it rain, or raining makes sheep shit. Sheep don't shit "randomly" sheep shit after they eat, it doesn't rain "randomly" it rains after water collects in the atmosphere.