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Paranoia?
« on: September 18, 2011, 05:39:55 pm »
Lately I've been questioning everything I've been watching and reading.

Questioning the real reason why those words were chosen, and to what end.

I watched Contagion, and it left me afraid of the message "the government will solve things even if it scrambling. it will solve the problems. All you have to do it wait while things collapse and then you will get a shot and barcode to show you got the shot and all will be alright"

I've been watching the G1 Transformers knowing that is designed to sell toys, and it doesn't scare me. I already know the angle. It says "look at how cool this guy is. Buy his toy."

I watch Ghost in the Shell and wonder what kind of society would make all those cybernetic implants so wide spread among normal people. What did they do to be given them.

I watched Kingdom of Heaven, and have to dismiss everything. There is too much 21th century in it. I see the message of "organized religion makes people crazy" and it is a good one, but is that all?

I'm rambling. I just spat this out.

Coyote, overthinking things maybe.
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Re: Paranoia?
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2011, 10:00:20 pm »
Question EVERYTHING, Coyote... I try to.
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Re: Paranoia?
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2011, 03:26:59 am »
Lately I've been questioning everything I've been watching and reading.

Questioning the real reason why those words were chosen, and to what end.

How would you know you've found the real reason?

And what makes you think there is only one purpose at play?
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2011, 03:28:00 am »
Lately I've been questioning everything I've been watching and reading.

Questioning the real reason why those words were chosen, and to what end.

How would you know you've found the real reason?

And what makes you think there is only one purpose at play?

Oh and that too. Thanks for reminding me.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2011, 07:41:07 am »
I've been questioning everything so much, that I think I'm going to dissappear at any second.
You know, like I'm too close at finding out something BIG.

Like let's take this "reality" we are living in. What the fuck is this shit?
Nobody knows.
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2011, 04:46:44 pm »
I watch Ghost in the Shell and wonder what kind of society would make all those cybernetic implants so wide spread among normal people. What did they do to be given them.

what I recall from Ghost in the Shell is that people had to lease their implants from the government. Then they'd spend their extended longevity paying off the debt.

Once the civilization has reached the pace where you need cybernetic implants to compete in the job market, people will be pushing each other out of the way for them.


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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2011, 04:54:09 pm »
Once the civilization has reached the pace where you need cybernetic implants to compete in the job market, people will be pushing each other out of the way for them.

This.  In the 80s, people scrambled to obtain cell phones, so that they would never, ever be left alone again.  Now they carry "smart" phones, so that they can be pestered by email 24/7.  Woe unto mankind when his phone is smarter than he...But I am a bit of a Luddite in that fashion.  I still believe that a person should be able to enjoy a bit of solitude without a ringtone shattering the moment.

RUN,  YOU FUCKING LEMMINGS!  RUN!  Gotta get the newest fastest sexiest best-ever.  Gotta chase that electronic rabbit, without ever considering what happens to the greyhounds at the track when they get too old to run.  Gotta DO, there's no time to BE. 

A wise old Spag once said, "There's more to life than increasing its speed."  I agree with him (except when it comes to driving), and I won't be getting any "implants".  I may be saddled with two cell phones, but I can "accidentally" leave them at home, or just inside, while I sit out back with a cheap cigar and a cup of chai...Which I presume I would be unable to do with some cheap gizmo actually embedded in my flesh.

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2011, 05:44:32 pm »
I, for one, can hardly wait to be a robot.

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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2011, 05:49:32 pm »
I, for one, can hardly wait to be a robot.

That's why we have American Idol.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2011, 05:52:21 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2011, 05:58:55 pm »
I am down with becoming a robot.

Right now they've got science which can help the blind see. Within our lifetimes, they will have technology that will help the blind see better than us. We'll be jealous of their glowing LED-eyes, their thermal vision, their informative optical readouts....

Thing is, we're already robots ... and if you can manage it, it kicks ass. Many can't. To them, the technology seems like this wasteful decadence. Or an obstacle.

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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2011, 07:03:27 pm »
i don't follow.


S'okay.  I was just riffing.  Nothing to see here.
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2011, 07:14:00 pm »
Once the civilization has reached the pace where you need cybernetic implants to compete in the job market, people will be pushing each other out of the way for them.

This.  In the 80s, people scrambled to obtain cell phones, so that they would never, ever be left alone again.  Now they carry "smart" phones, so that they can be pestered by email 24/7.  Woe unto mankind when his phone is smarter than he...But I am a bit of a Luddite in that fashion.  I still believe that a person should be able to enjoy a bit of solitude without a ringtone shattering the moment.

RUN,  YOU FUCKING LEMMINGS!  RUN!  Gotta get the newest fastest sexiest best-ever.  Gotta chase that electronic rabbit, without ever considering what happens to the greyhounds at the track when they get too old to run.  Gotta DO, there's no time to BE. 

A wise old Spag once said, "There's more to life than increasing its speed."  I agree with him (except when it comes to driving), and I won't be getting any "implants".  I may be saddled with two cell phones, but I can "accidentally" leave them at home, or just inside, while I sit out back with a cheap cigar and a cup of chai...Which I presume I would be unable to do with some cheap gizmo actually embedded in my flesh.

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It was pretty awesome.
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Re: Paranoia?
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2011, 07:21:02 pm »
Once the civilization has reached the pace where you need cybernetic implants to compete in the job market, people will be pushing each other out of the way for them.

This.  In the 80s, people scrambled to obtain cell phones, so that they would never, ever be left alone again.  Now they carry "smart" phones, so that they can be pestered by email 24/7.  Woe unto mankind when his phone is smarter than he...But I am a bit of a Luddite in that fashion.  I still believe that a person should be able to enjoy a bit of solitude without a ringtone shattering the moment.

RUN,  YOU FUCKING LEMMINGS!  RUN!  Gotta get the newest fastest sexiest best-ever.  Gotta chase that electronic rabbit, without ever considering what happens to the greyhounds at the track when they get too old to run.  Gotta DO, there's no time to BE. 

A wise old Spag once said, "There's more to life than increasing its speed."  I agree with him (except when it comes to driving), and I won't be getting any "implants".  I may be saddled with two cell phones, but I can "accidentally" leave them at home, or just inside, while I sit out back with a cheap cigar and a cup of chai...Which I presume I would be unable to do with some cheap gizmo actually embedded in my flesh.

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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2011, 07:23:20 pm »
Once the civilization has reached the pace where you need cybernetic implants to compete in the job market, people will be pushing each other out of the way for them.

This.  In the 80s, people scrambled to obtain cell phones, so that they would never, ever be left alone again.  Now they carry "smart" phones, so that they can be pestered by email 24/7.  Woe unto mankind when his phone is smarter than he...But I am a bit of a Luddite in that fashion.  I still believe that a person should be able to enjoy a bit of solitude without a ringtone shattering the moment.

RUN,  YOU FUCKING LEMMINGS!  RUN!  Gotta get the newest fastest sexiest best-ever.  Gotta chase that electronic rabbit, without ever considering what happens to the greyhounds at the track when they get too old to run.  Gotta DO, there's no time to BE. 

A wise old Spag once said, "There's more to life than increasing its speed."  I agree with him (except when it comes to driving), and I won't be getting any "implants".  I may be saddled with two cell phones, but I can "accidentally" leave them at home, or just inside, while I sit out back with a cheap cigar and a cup of chai...Which I presume I would be unable to do with some cheap gizmo actually embedded in my flesh.

This Future™ is a techie's heaven and a Holy Man's™ hell.



I've been having a gradually creeping longing to move into a dirt hut in the middle of nowhere. I mean, I remember living without TV, or internet, or cell phones, or central heating. It wasn't at all bad. Plus, there was nothing to do all day except read, garden, go for walks, and make stuff with your hands.

It was pretty awesome.

You can't turn back the clock, and you can't dial down the speed on the treadmill.  It's no use dreaming about when we all lived in the forest and nobody lived anywhere else...This is now, and we gotta run, run, run until we collapse like draft horses in the traces.  But don't worry yourself over the fate of The Machine™...There's always another horse.  Hell, we have so much disposable labor these days that it would be a CRIME to not treat 'em as sacrificial gears, right?

You gotta be TOMORROW.  Not now, not "living in the moment", but rather running full tilt, headlong until you cross the finish line and get your prize.
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