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Re: Luka Magnotta : Everything is A Dream
« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2012, 08:05:08 pm »
That video, "1 lunatic, 1 ice pick" may not be of Luka Magnotta, or his victim.  I'm getting some serious date discrepancies.

I'm also getting reports of Luka being in with the scientologists, of being a satanist, a white nationalist forced to flee Canada, of having a wife and child in Europe, of links to a South African smuggling group and to the Russian mafia. 

Luka claims he has cyberstalkers who post nonsense about him all over the web, but as far as I can tell, based on redditers and anonymous members who followed him before the most recent events, those accounts were registered by him, and a lot of fake accounts on Youtube who comment on his videos, both defending and attacking him, also belong to him.

Either way, there is likely more to this case than meets the eye.  I am going to go investigating.
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Re: Luka Magnotta : Everything is A Dream
« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2012, 08:09:04 pm »
Holy shit, red herrings all over this thing.

Yeah, definitely one for Cain.
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Re: Luka Magnotta : Everything is A Dream
« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2012, 08:18:05 pm »
Someone, probably Luka, has been throwing up chaff like this for years now.  It makes it very hard to know anything for certain about him.

The murder video surfaced on the web from about May 15th - before the murdered Chinese student's family said they lost contact with him, on the 24th.  The Toronto police were also not especially interested in the video, until body parts started showing up in the post, as a user of "bestgore" rang them and alerted them to the murder in question.
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Re: Luka Magnotta : Everything is A Dream
« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2012, 10:56:44 pm »
I know I shouldn't encourage the crazy, but...

1st of March 2008 - “LtGradient” uploads “Mega Man 999 Mega Man II” to Youtube, with the description “Luka Magnotta stays true to his account's name, but can he survive the onslaught of critics?”  While the video is more than a bit disjointed, one part shows Luka as Mega Man shooting at a homeless person, while the audio goes “homeless person, URGH”, and another shows a decapitated person.

10th of December 2011 – Two days after Luka is interviewed in The Sun, an email is received from a “John Kilbride” to the newspaper, in which the author talks about their love of killing, a “new video” “involving humans” they will soon be making and their “sexy” male journalists.  Note: the name “John Kilbride” is one of the child victims of Moors Murderers Ian Brady and Myra Hindley.

April 22nd 2012 - “Rita VanVolkenberg” uploads “Cannibal Serial Killer - Luka Magnotta” to Youtube, a montage of Luka Magnotta photos with New Order's “True Faith” playing in the background and an advertisement for his Facebook group.

May 12th – Someone on Yahoo answers asks where they can see the murder video, stating “There is a video circulating TOR ( The Deep Web) all I know is it was shot in San Fransisco, I have been trying to find it for weeks.”

15th of May (unconfirmed) – the website http://one-lunatic-one-icepick.blogspot.com/ is created.  The website is currently down

15th of May - “alexisvaloranreich” uploads a request on Youtube “There is apparently a video circulating around the deep web called " One Lunatic One Ice Pick" Video. Does anyone have a copy of it ?”  The video is a single still, apparently taken in the same bedroom as the “1 Lunatic 1 Icepick” video.

15th of May – in response to the above video, “genisismaster” says “Apparently there is another video besides the "1 Lunatic 1 Ice Pick" video of the same guy performing oral sex on a dead woman laying on a sofa? and killing a homeless man? I am still trying to find more information on all this. Very strange.”  “Adam lemmon” also says he has seen the video, on the same day.  Both accounts have very little activity aside from the comments on this video and are most likely sockpuppets.

16th of May 2012 – anonymousgirl4 posts on psychforums.com “1 lunatic 1 icepick” and says “Firstly , dont worry I am NOT posting graphic details or links to the video, I am just curious as to what would possess somebody to do this type of crime? There is a video of a guy around aged 20 from San Fransisco, he apparently made real snuff films that depict cannabilisim and necrophilia along with the murder. I am doing research on this and I would VERY much appreciate any and all the advice and help you could give me. Is he a psychopath or Anti Social or what? I know we dont have a lot of details but based on the crime its self. Thanks in advance.” 

In a follow-up post, anonymousgirl4 writes “Firstly , dont worry I am NOT posting graphic details or links to the video, I am just curious as to what would possess somebody to do this type of crime? There is a video of a guy around aged 20 from San Fransisco, he apparently made real snuff films that depict cannabilisim and necrophilia along with the murder. I am doing research on this and I would VERY much appreciate any and all the advice and help you could give me. Is he a psychopath or Anti Social or what? I know we dont have a lot of details but based on the crime its self. Thanks in advance.”  She claims to have seen the video on “TOR”. 

The user signed up for the account only 50 minutes before the post, and has not logged on again since early in the morning the day after. He or she did not respond to an email inquiry.

24th of May – Montana based “51 year old attorney” claims to have called the Toronto Police at 416-808-2222 Sunday at noon and tried to report the video”.  He saw the video on bestgore.com, and also reported it to RCMP, Miami and Denver police.

May 24th – Lin Jun's family's last contact with him.

May 24th-25th  - Luka Magnotta allegedly murders Lin Jun.

May 25th - “1 Lunatic 1 Icepick” is uploaded to bestgore.com.  Mark Marek, the site owner, says he believes the clip did not come from Magnotta himself, though he points out he has no way to verify that or vet his contributors.

May 26th – Luka Magnotta is believed to have left Montreal on this date.

May 29th – the hand and foot arrive at their respective destinations.

May 31st – “Beavis Butthead” uploads a video claiming that Luka is being framed by an “insane agent” he “got fired” several years ago, that Luka was never involved in porn and that certain scene elements do not match the same elements in Luka's apartment.  The writing style of Beavis Butthead strongly suggests that is account is being run by Luka.
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Re: Luka Magnotta : Everything is A Dream
« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2012, 11:09:03 pm »
This is feckin weird.
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Re: Luka Magnotta : Everything is A Dream
« Reply #50 on: June 02, 2012, 11:31:30 pm »
http://calgary.openfile.ca/blog/ottawa/2012/heres-what-we-might-know-about-luka-rocco-magnotta

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We also know that searches on Google for "Luka Magnotta" have spiked in the past few days. Why would that be, if Magnotta's name was only released to the public today? It may have to do with the fact the murder was allegedly taped, as police have said, since if you peruse Magnotta's Facebook wall you'll come across links to the alleged video. (Note: I'm not watching it.)
"The thoughts of all men arise from the darkness. If you are the movement of your soul, and the cause of that movement precedes you, then how could you ever call your thoughts your own? How could you be anything other than a slave to the darkness that comes before? Only the Logos allows one to mitigate that slavery. Only knowing the sources of thought and action allows us to own our thoughts and our actions, to throw off the yoke of circumstance."
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Re: Luka Magnotta : Everything is A Dream
« Reply #51 on: June 02, 2012, 11:33:04 pm »
http://calgary.openfile.ca/blog/ottawa/2012/heres-what-we-might-know-about-luka-rocco-magnotta

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We also know that searches on Google for "Luka Magnotta" have spiked in the past few days. Why would that be, if Magnotta's name was only released to the public today? It may have to do with the fact the murder was allegedly taped, as police have said, since if you peruse Magnotta's Facebook wall you'll come across links to the alleged video. (Note: I'm not watching it.)
His name was public the day I posted the RTE article or sooner, RTE are generally last to hear of any news.
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Re: Luka Magnotta : Everything is A Dream
« Reply #52 on: June 02, 2012, 11:35:29 pm »
The fact that BH has posted in this thread and is aware of/has access to that video is giving me the shitting heebie jeebies nothing doing.

Didn't watch it, not going to watch it.  I only like imaginary snuff.
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Re: Luka Magnotta : Everything is A Dream
« Reply #53 on: June 02, 2012, 11:39:41 pm »
http://calgary.openfile.ca/blog/ottawa/2012/heres-what-we-might-know-about-luka-rocco-magnotta

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We also know that searches on Google for "Luka Magnotta" have spiked in the past few days. Why would that be, if Magnotta's name was only released to the public today? It may have to do with the fact the murder was allegedly taped, as police have said, since if you peruse Magnotta's Facebook wall you'll come across links to the alleged video. (Note: I'm not watching it.)
His name was public the day I posted the RTE article or sooner, RTE are generally last to hear of any news.

Sorry, should have clarified.  The above was posted on the day of the release of his name, the same day you posted it.  His name was trending before then.

From what I can see, the most simple explanation is that Magnotta had been planning the murder for quite some time, and the various Youtube and forum postings were "promotional material" to make sure the video would go viral when it was actually released.

That's the theory I'm going with for now, though I'm still keeping other theories in mind. 

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http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Porn+star+wanted+murder+dismemberment+case+dated+Karla+Homolka/6701569/story.html#ixzz1wOdkWWW7

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Montreal Police have confirmed the suspect at large in a gruesome murder and dismemberment case once dated notorious sex killer Karla Homolka.
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Re: Luka Magnotta : Everything is A Dream
« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2012, 12:02:19 am »


THIS

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Re: Luka Magnotta : Everything is A Dream
« Reply #55 on: June 04, 2012, 03:39:00 pm »
Magnotta has been picked up by police in Berlin.  He was arrested at a cybercafe.
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Re: Luka Magnotta : Everything is A Dream
« Reply #56 on: June 04, 2012, 03:46:53 pm »
Good, although I find the place of arrest vaguely amusing.
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Re: Luka Magnotta : Everything is A Dream
« Reply #57 on: June 04, 2012, 04:41:39 pm »
Cain what do you make of all of this? I cant make anything of it.
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Re: Luka Magnotta : Everything is A Dream
« Reply #58 on: June 04, 2012, 05:02:21 pm »

Oh yeah, and the video? According to my stepfather, he cuts the guy's arm off after he kills him and uses it to jerk off in front of the camera.

That's taking the concept of the "dutch rudder" to a whole new level.
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Re: Luka Magnotta : Everything is A Dream
« Reply #59 on: June 04, 2012, 05:11:46 pm »
Cain what do you make of all of this? I cant make anything of it.

In what sense?
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