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Re: Mushrooms create hippies
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2011, 12:04:36 pm »

(also their methodology seems to have been ... questionable. their "placebo" control was ... Ritalin ?!)

WTF

Idiots.

Idiocy is forgivable.  This is like, they're fucking up their control group on purpose.  I mean shit, Ritalin is like speed to adults.

Ritalin IS a stimulant, which has made me wonder what sick, twisted fuck said, "hey, this kid's ADHD, let's give him a STIMULANT!" to find out that it works.

Bad science pisses me off.

It works different for kids.  I took ritalin as a kid, and it wasn't stimulating at all.

Here are some (possibly) interesting facts on how Ritalin works for treating ADD, and why: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080624115956.htm

Very interesting, thanks, Nigel!
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Re: Mushrooms create hippies
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2011, 03:54:33 pm »

(also their methodology seems to have been ... questionable. their "placebo" control was ... Ritalin ?!)

WTF

Idiots.

Idiocy is forgivable.  This is like, they're fucking up their control group on purpose.  I mean shit, Ritalin is like speed to adults.

Ritalin IS a stimulant, which has made me wonder what sick, twisted fuck said, "hey, this kid's ADHD, let's give him a STIMULANT!" to find out that it works.

Bad science pisses me off.

It works different for kids.  I took ritalin as a kid, and it wasn't stimulating at all.

Here are some (possibly) interesting facts on how Ritalin works for treating ADD, and why: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080624115956.htm

Very interesting, thanks, Nigel!

You're welcome! My oldest kid and I both have the ADD so it's been interesting following the understanding and treatment. I take Ritalin when I remember, which is almost never. The kid takes Concerta, which janks me out like an 80-pound hooker on meth. She seems fine on it though.
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Re: Mushrooms create hippies
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2011, 06:10:42 pm »
I was on concerta for a while, too.  To be honest, I never really saw any improvement of any kind on either ritalin or concerta.  I think this was probably due to I didn't have ADD like I was supposed to have done.
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As a neuroscientist I have to disagree with the perception that anyone is doing mathematical modeling of cognitive intelligence, yet; intelligence as an economist defines it, yes, but economists are worlds away from actual cognition.


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Re: Mushrooms create hippies
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2011, 06:29:51 pm »
I was on concerta for a while, too.  To be honest, I never really saw any improvement of any kind on either ritalin or concerta.  I think this was probably due to I didn't have ADD like I was supposed to have done.

 :lulz: yeah, if you don't have it that shit don't work.
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Re: Mushrooms create hippies
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2011, 06:47:28 pm »
Mushrooms did not create hippies.

The Psycho shower scene created hippies.

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Re: Mushrooms create hippies
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2011, 07:58:59 pm »
Mushrooms did not create hippies.

The Psycho shower scene created hippies.

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If someone does the “Fine, you’re right, I’m clearly a terrible person, I’m Satan, I’m the worst person alive, I should just die” thing in response to criticism of their harmful behavior, they are trying to manipulate people and flip the situation around so that they look like a victim.

As a neuroscientist I have to disagree with the perception that anyone is doing mathematical modeling of cognitive intelligence, yet; intelligence as an economist defines it, yes, but economists are worlds away from actual cognition.


Although it is outside the purview of this organization to offer personal advice, we can say -- without assuming any liability -- that previous experience indicates (and recent market studies corroborate) that given the present condition of the marketplace, continuing with your present course of action is likely to result in substantial in

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Re: Mushrooms create hippies
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2011, 05:46:26 pm »
Does psilocybin cause changes in personality? Maybe, but not so fast

(also their methodology seems to have been ... questionable. their "placebo" control was ... Ritalin ?!)

Seems almost OK.  Might've wanted a convincing high to make the control work better.  Best to use a third group, then, though, that actually had nothing special that day.