Discordianism vs. Subgenius

[ZeroZeroSix]

Hello there,

I am new to Discordianism, I read the Principia and I also know the Book of the Subgenius.
Therefore I have a few questions:
Is a Discordian at the same time also a Subgenius?
Or are there Discordians who dont accept the Subgenius philosophy at all?
What are the similarities and differences?
I feel attracted to Eris.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Is a Discordian at the same time also a Subgenius?
Or are there Discordians who dont accept the Subgenius philosophy at all?
What are the similarities and differences?
I feel attracted to Eris.

1.  I am.

2.  Yes.

3.  Laughing til your guts bleed.

4.  You're fucked.  She's a tease.  She'll steal all your CDs and give you the clap.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I am a Discordian and not a Subgenius. I have the book, I've just never read it.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I am a Discordian and not a Subgenius. I have the book, I've just never read it.

That's a relief.  It causes swelling of the hate gland, and you're already at critical mass.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I am a Discordian and not a Subgenius. I have the book, I've just never read it.

That's a relief.  It causes swelling of the hate gland, and you're already at critical mass.

Yeah, I got yelled at for being mean to my ex-husband this morning and I am about to rupture. 

[Cramulus]

Is a Discordian at the same time also a Subgenius?

Nope, they're both "opt in" tribes. Being in one doesn't mean you're in the other.

Or are there Discordians who dont accept the Subgenius philosophy at all?

speaking as a mother,
I borrow a bit from the subgenius philosophy (I find the SLACK concept to be really useful), but I find most of it to be self-important crap designed to puff up your ego and make you feel like you're in the "higher" tribe.

What are the similarities and differences?

that's a pretty involved question I'm not qualified to answer!

A good place to start would be to look at the differences between Kerry Thornley / Greg Hill and Ivan Stang.

Kerry and Greg were zen students, and dress their ideas in eastern clothes (like the sacred chao)
Stang wears a mad scientist costume, and a lot of his ideas wear the capitalist-cult costume (like having to buy membership into the CotSG)

I feel attracted to Eris.

Careful -- that bitch is on a TEAR this year.

[LMNO]

Both groups are a fistful of assholes; but only one group asks for $30 first.

[Cramulus]

I borrow a bit from the subgenius philosophy (I find the SLACK concept to be really useful), but I find most of it to be self-important crap designed to puff up your ego and make you feel like you're in the "higher" tribe.

Note to self:  Do not use satire around people from New York.

Note to Cram:  The whole thing is a take off on Scientology, which actually means that shit when they say it.

I get the satire, it's still a ego wank.

[ZeroZeroSix]

By the way: Is the Jehovah-1 in the book of the Subgenius considered the same Jehovah of the bible?

It's my last question about Subgenius

[The Good Reverend Roger]

By the way: Is the Jehovah-1 in the book of the Subgenius considered the same Jehovah of the bible?

It's my last question about Subgenius

Sometimes.

JHVH is the God recognized by the Christians.  At least, they think it is.

Jehovah-1 is a space demon that masquerades as JHVH, and spends all day convincing people to be Calvinists.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I borrow a bit from the subgenius philosophy (I find the SLACK concept to be really useful), but I find most of it to be self-important crap designed to puff up your ego and make you feel like you're in the "higher" tribe.

Note to self:  Do not use satire around people from New York.

Note to Cram:  The whole thing is a take off on Scientology, which actually means that shit when they say it.

I get the satire, it's still a ego wank.

We should put up a list of acceptable jokes.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Both groups are a fistful of assholes; but only one group asks for $30 first.

Yeah, but that group also gives you TRIPLE YOUR MONEY BACK if you fail to attain salvation.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I borrow a bit from the subgenius philosophy (I find the SLACK concept to be really useful), but I find most of it to be self-important crap designed to puff up your ego and make you feel like you're in the "higher" tribe.

Note to self:  Do not use satire around people from New York.

Note to Cram:  The whole thing is a take off on Scientology, which actually means that shit when they say it.

I get the satire, it's still a ego wank.

Joke you don't enjoy, but is enjoyed by other people here, = ego wank?

Interesting angle...

[LMNO]

TGRR, quick question: do Subgenius' squabble amongst themselves as much as Discordians?

[AFK]

Hello there,

I am new to Discordianism, I read the Principia and I also know the Book of the Subgenius.
Therefore I have a few questions:
Is a Discordian at the same time also a Subgenius?
Or are there Discordians who dont accept the Subgenius philosophy at all?
What are the similarities and differences?
I feel attracted to Eris.

Not precisely the same but there is overlap.  The SG philosophy is a bit more assertive, type-A compared to Discordia, from my perspective.  There are a lot of bits I like but alot that I don't really dig.  Like Cram talked about, the bits on Slack are really good and resonate with me.  And the commentaries on human society.  It's when it gets into the sci-fi stuff that it loses me.  I know it's satire, but I feel in some places it gets a little lost in the satire.  But the powerful pieces are still just as powerful for my money.