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"Doing the God thing"
« on: December 16, 2011, 06:00:05 pm »
Looks like Cameron just broke one of the big rules of UK politics

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16224394

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David Cameron has said the UK is a Christian country "and we should not be afraid to say so".

In a speech in Oxford on the 400th anniversary of the King James Bible, the prime minister called for a revival of traditional Christian values to counter Britain's "moral collapse".

He said "live and let live" had too often become "do what you please".

The PM said it was wrong to suggest that standing up for Christianity was "somehow doing down other faiths".

Describing himself as a "committed" but only "vaguely practising" Christian, the PM admitted he was "full of doubts" about big theological issues.
'Don't do God'

But he staunchly defended the role of religion in politics and said the Bible in particular was crucial to British values.

"We are a Christian country and we should not be afraid to say so," he told the audience at Christ Church.

"Let me be clear: I am not in any way saying that to have another faith - or no faith - is somehow wrong.

"I know and fully respect that many people in this country do not have a religion.

"And I am also incredibly proud that Britain is home to many different faith communities, who do so much to make our country stronger.

"But what I am saying is that the Bible has helped to give Britain a set of values and morals which make Britain what it is today."

Mr Cameron said people often argued that "politicians shouldn't 'do God'" - a reference to a comment famously made by former No 10 spin doctor Alistair Campbell when Tony Blair was asked about his religion.

"If by that they mean we shouldn't try to claim a direct line to God for one particular political party, they could not be more right," the PM said.

"But we shouldn't let our caution about that stand in the way of recognising both what our faith communities bring to our country, and also just how incredibly important faith is to so many people in Britain."

Mr Cameron also said it was "easier for people to believe and practise other faiths when Britain has confidence in its Christian identity".

"Many people tell me it is much easier to be Jewish or Muslim here in Britain than it is in a secular country like France," he said.

This is a pathetic low, even by the current debased standard of government we suffer with.

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Re: "Doing the God thing"
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2011, 06:06:38 pm »
Welcome to America!  :horrormirth:
Im guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk, Charles Wick said. It was very complicated.


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Re: "Doing the God thing"
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2011, 06:15:27 pm »
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If someone does the Fine, youre right, Im clearly a terrible person, Im Satan, Im the worst person alive, I should just die thing in response to criticism of their harmful behavior, they are trying to manipulate people and flip the situation around so that they look like a victim.

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Re: "Doing the God thing"
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2011, 07:43:21 pm »
I love that in one breath he can say that Britain is a broken society, where we've lost our way and our values...

... but we shouldn't forget our Christian roots because they made Britain what it is today.  :lulz:
Truly, though our element is time,
We are not suited to the long perspectives
Open at each instant of our lives.
They link us to our losses: worse,
They show us what we have as it once was,
Blindingly undiminished, just as though
By acting differently, we could have kept it so.

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Re: "Doing the God thing"
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2011, 10:14:44 pm »
I love that in one breath he can say that Britain is a broken society, where we've lost our way and our values...

... but we shouldn't forget our Christian roots because they made Britain what it is today.  :lulz:

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