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Re: music - what is it?
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2012, 01:58:13 am »
In my opinion, John Cage said it best: "Music is intended noise."

Everything else is subjective and emotionally based.

I like this definition. Especially because it gets around all the pretentious metaphysical philosophizing so we can just go listen to whatever floats our boat.
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Re: music - what is it?
« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2012, 02:01:00 am »
In my opinion, John Cage said it best: "Music is intended noise."

Everything else is subjective and emotionally based.

I like this definition. Especially because it gets around all the pretentious metaphysical philosophizing so we can just go listen to whatever floats our boat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHqUipinDyw

THIS FLOATS ALL BOATS.

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Re: music - what is it?
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2012, 02:06:03 am »
In my opinion, John Cage said it best: "Music is intended noise."

Everything else is subjective and emotionally based.

I like this definition. Especially because it gets around all the pretentious metaphysical philosophizing so we can just go listen to whatever floats our boat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHqUipinDyw

THIS FLOATS ALL BOATS.

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No, sorry, it doesn't really float my boat.

And that's okay.
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« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2012, 02:06:42 am »
In my opinion, John Cage said it best: "Music is intended noise."

Everything else is subjective and emotionally based.

I like this definition. Especially because it gets around all the pretentious metaphysical philosophizing so we can just go listen to whatever floats our boat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHqUipinDyw

THIS FLOATS ALL BOATS.

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No, sorry, it doesn't really float my boat.

And that's okay.

But...

But...

...That's James Brown.
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Re: music - what is it?
« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2012, 02:08:51 am »
In my opinion, John Cage said it best: "Music is intended noise."

Everything else is subjective and emotionally based.

I like this definition. Especially because it gets around all the pretentious metaphysical philosophizing so we can just go listen to whatever floats our boat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHqUipinDyw

THIS FLOATS ALL BOATS.

D/N/T

No, sorry, it doesn't really float my boat.

And that's okay.

But...

But...

...That's James Brown.

Yeah, it's James Brown. Some things by James Brown make me want to dance. Other things are "meh" for me. Again, this is okay. No need to demand that everyone appreciate your favorite greatest hits of your younger years.
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« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2012, 02:12:23 am »

Yeah, it's James Brown. Some things by James Brown make me want to dance. Other things are "meh" for me. Again, this is okay. No need to demand that everyone appreciate your favorite greatest hits of your younger years.

Well, okay, but...HEY, WAIT JUST A DAMN MINUTE!

WAS THAT A CRACK?  I THINK THAT WAS A CRACK!  LISTEN, WHEN I WAS YOUNG WE ONLY HAD ONE (1) SONG.  NOT LIKE TODAY.  NO.  NOW YOU EVEN HAVE DIFFERENT KINDS OF MUSIC, AND YOU'RE SPOILT!  SPOILT, I TELL YA!

um.

Anyhow, your dislike of the above semi-jingoistic tune may indicate terrorist-kissing butt-chugging tendencies on your part.

Let's try the "Tucson song", by Elton John. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpCigLI4ryo

If you don't like that little horrorfest, then you kiss Al Qaeda.  On the beard.
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« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2012, 02:22:52 am »
Sound given meaning. Utterly subjective. End of story.

Except for Johnny Cash.  And James Brown.  And the Rolling Stones.

annnnnnnnnnnnd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc5Sm4iRtxs

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« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2012, 02:30:02 am »
Sound given meaning. Utterly subjective. End of story.

Except for Johnny Cash.  And James Brown.  And the Rolling Stones.

annnnnnnnnnnnd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc5Sm4iRtxs

I....80s....huh..............

I remember when that video debuted.

We didn't have much experience with boybands then, and we didn't know what duckface was, so we thought the keyboardist's harelip correction had catastrophically failed.

Then we saw the manic hoochie mamas in chicken suits going apeshit at the end, and I don't remember anything else until Clinton was president.
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McDonalds, if you think about it, is the PERFECT example of life/lifestyles in the late 20th/early 21st century. Pink slime shaped like chicken nuggets, giant lawsuit-happy corporations suing people for using the prefix "Mc" no matter what the circumstances, marketing aimed at small children (Ronald, etc) to form life-long associations with the product, and the abysmally-effective "I'M LOVING IT" marketing ploy aimed at maintaining that association into the person's adult life...With the advertisement showing skinny, attractive people while in reality the AVERAGE customer is 45 pounds overweight.

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« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2012, 02:32:56 am »
Sound given meaning. Utterly subjective. End of story.

Except for Johnny Cash.  And James Brown.  And the Rolling Stones.

annnnnnnnnnnnd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc5Sm4iRtxs

I....80s....huh..............

I remember when that video debuted.

We didn't have much experience with boybands then, and we didn't know what duckface was, so we thought the keyboardist's harelip correction had catastrophically failed.

Then we saw the manic hoochie mamas in chicken suits going apeshit at the end, and I don't remember anything else until Clinton was president.

 :lulz:

The chicken hoochie mamas was the best part.
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« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2012, 02:42:50 am »

Yeah, it's James Brown. Some things by James Brown make me want to dance. Other things are "meh" for me. Again, this is okay. No need to demand that everyone appreciate your favorite greatest hits of your younger years.

Well, okay, but...HEY, WAIT JUST A DAMN MINUTE!

WAS THAT A CRACK?  I THINK THAT WAS A CRACK!  LISTEN, WHEN I WAS YOUNG WE ONLY HAD ONE (1) SONG.  NOT LIKE TODAY.  NO.  NOW YOU EVEN HAVE DIFFERENT KINDS OF MUSIC, AND YOU'RE SPOILT!  SPOILT, I TELL YA!

um.

Anyhow, your dislike of the above semi-jingoistic tune may indicate terrorist-kissing butt-chugging tendencies on your part.

Let's try the "Tucson song", by Elton John. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpCigLI4ryo

If you don't like that little horrorfest, then you kiss Al Qaeda.  On the beard.

Now that, I liked. Then again, when you posted "Burn Down the Mission", that was my favorite song for a while. The younger Elton John has been growing on me.
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Re: music - what is it?
« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2012, 01:00:18 pm »
Joni Mitchell.  Only it's actually called "Big Yellow Taxi".

Cinderella's song is better.  Even before "Big Yellow Taxi" was tainted by Adam Duritz.

I was going to let slide you making me listen to that track, wasn't going to say it but now you push it:

Just because he used a pseudonym and dressed up as a chick doesn't suddenly make Jon Bon Jovi palatable or anything, this is even worse than the stuff he did as "Aerosmith".
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« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2012, 01:19:24 pm »

Yeah, it's James Brown. Some things by James Brown make me want to dance. Other things are "meh" for me. Again, this is okay. No need to demand that everyone appreciate your favorite greatest hits of your younger years.

Well, okay, but...HEY, WAIT JUST A DAMN MINUTE!

WAS THAT A CRACK?  I THINK THAT WAS A CRACK!  LISTEN, WHEN I WAS YOUNG WE ONLY HAD ONE (1) SONG.  NOT LIKE TODAY.  NO.  NOW YOU EVEN HAVE DIFFERENT KINDS OF MUSIC, AND YOU'RE SPOILT!  SPOILT, I TELL YA!

um.

Anyhow, your dislike of the above semi-jingoistic tune may indicate terrorist-kissing butt-chugging tendencies on your part.

Let's try the "Tucson song", by Elton John. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpCigLI4ryo

If you don't like that little horrorfest, then you kiss Al Qaeda.  On the beard.

Now that, I liked. Then again, when you posted "Burn Down the Mission", that was my favorite song for a while. The younger Elton John has been growing on me.

Early 70s Elton John has much to recommend him.
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« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2012, 01:25:42 pm »
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« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2012, 01:33:35 pm »
Joni Mitchell.  Only it's actually called "Big Yellow Taxi".

Cinderella's song is better.  Even before "Big Yellow Taxi" was tainted by Adam Duritz.

I was going to let slide you making me listen to that track, wasn't going to say it but now you push it:

Just because he used a pseudonym and dressed up as a chick doesn't suddenly make Jon Bon Jovi palatable or anything, this is even worse than the stuff he did as "Aerosmith".

Jon Bon Jovi and Steven Tyler aren't fit to wear Tom Keiffer's lace-up boots!  He's much more Rock and Roll.

But seriously, you should check out their non-ballads, like Gypsy Road, Falling Apart at the Seams, Second Wind, Long Cold Winter, some quality rock and roll right there.  They certainly dressed the glam-part early in their career, but musically, they were more based in blues and also had some country/western influences and miles ahead of their contemporaries.   
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« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2012, 01:36:17 pm »
Joni Mitchell.  Only it's actually called "Big Yellow Taxi".

Cinderella's song is better.  Even before "Big Yellow Taxi" was tainted by Adam Duritz.

I was going to let slide you making me listen to that track, wasn't going to say it but now you push it:

Just because he used a pseudonym and dressed up as a chick doesn't suddenly make Jon Bon Jovi palatable or anything, this is even worse than the stuff he did as "Aerosmith".

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