Hollywood Must Be Destroyed

[El Twid]

Hey rog you know what i like just as much as collateral damage? Pawns. Oh yeah. Some pawns must be sacrificed.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

ECH's 1st Law: Never attribute to intentional evil that which can be explained by stupidity or incompetence.

ECH's 1st Corollary: 98% of humanity is either stupid or incompetent.

ECH's law is also known as Hanlon's Razor.

ECH's second law is rank optimism.

[Balls Wellington]

That depends. You didn't ask me about the other 2%.

[kingyak]

Hey rog you know what i like just as much as collateral damage? Pawns. Oh yeah. Some pawns must be sacrificed.

STFU and get back to the song mines, pawn! I demand free entertainment now!

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

Thats totally unfair man. I would suggest to you that you support local musicians and minor labels if you have qualms about that sort of thing.

I'll add a line to this effect to my manifesto.

[El Twid]

Yessir!!!

Pick. Axe.

[El Twid]

Ok diogenes. Thats better than asking us not to get paid. Now maybe you might also want to consider a flat out boycott of major label acts rather than not paying them for stuff they created.

Editted for accidental omission of not.

[M. Nigel Salt]

I haven't traced all of the big four to their umbrella corps, but it looks like they may all be owned by the big five information corporations... which would make it not entirely unlikely that this is really about controlling information on the internet. The big five already (for all practical purposes) own the airwaves and print, so it makes sense that the internet would be their next bid.

One of them is Disney.

Just saying.

Yep. Another one traces back to Comcast.

SOPA and PIPA have nothing to do with copyright protection. They have to do with media control.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I haven't traced all of the big four to their umbrella corps, but it looks like they may all be owned by the big five information corporations... which would make it not entirely unlikely that this is really about controlling information on the internet. The big five already (for all practical purposes) own the airwaves and print, so it makes sense that the internet would be their next bid.

One of them is Disney.

Just saying.

Yep. Another one traces back to Comcast.

SOPA and PIPA have nothing to do with copyright protection. They have to do with media control.

Actually, I've got the current list at the house.  I'll be happy to post it when I get home.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

I've added another line to the suggesting that the many people out there who don't want to cut out mainstream media entirely could instead limit their patronage to films, bands, etc where the actors, singers, directors, etc have publicly expressed opposition to SOPA.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Here's my deal, PDS:  If artists don't have a right to be paid for their work, then neither does anyone else.  We merely enjoy privilege.

You stealing a song is - simply put - stealing from someone trying to make a living.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Here's my deal, PDS:  If artists don't have a right to be paid for their work, then neither does anyone else.  We merely enjoy privilege.

You stealing a song is - simply put - stealing from someone trying to make a living.

Exactly!!

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

Here's my deal, PDS:  If artists don't have a right to be paid for their work, then neither does anyone else.  We merely enjoy privilege.

You stealing a song is - simply put - stealing from someone trying to make a living.

I'm not saying that we should pirate things. My manifesto does not at any time mention ripping off copyrighted music.
This manifesto is supposed to be more directed to the people who already have some inclination to make their own free stuff purely to express themselves to get off their asses and do it. I have no problem with paying artists for their for their music, acting, writing, etc. (My problem is purely with the corrupt middlemen between them and myself).

(Perhaps I should also add a line supporting artists who sell their work directly to the consumer)

[Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW]

Maybe you didn't think this through too much...

[El Twid]

I believe you also mentioned something about not buying first hand music. This suggests that you are somehow getting your music without giving the artist their due. If youre buying a used cd cool. Otherwise second hand seems to indicate piracy.