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Re: Chasing Eris
« Reply #465 on: November 20, 2012, 02:30:53 pm »
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Re: Chasing Eris
« Reply #466 on: November 20, 2012, 02:35:14 pm »
Dropping Cram a note, as well, in case he is also unaware he contributed.


Expect a lecture.

Can't imagine anyone being annoyed enough to lecture for a heads up that his name was included on a list of contributors when at least one other person was unpleasantly surprised to be included.
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Re: Chasing Eris
« Reply #467 on: November 20, 2012, 03:20:32 pm »
Dropping Cram a note, as well, in case he is also unaware he contributed.


Expect a lecture.

Can't imagine anyone being annoyed enough to lecture for a heads up that his name was included on a list of contributors when at least one other person was unpleasantly surprised to be included.

Cramulus has views on intellectual property.  My guess is that he'll wave it off with an air of superiority concerning those views.

But I suppose we should warn him anyway.
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Re: Chasing Eris
« Reply #468 on: November 20, 2012, 03:45:47 pm »
Alternately, we could compile a book made of his and Loveshade's writings and edit it in such a manner that it looks like they're best buds. It'd be a hell of an object lesson. :lulz:
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« Reply #469 on: November 20, 2012, 03:59:11 pm »
Alternately, we could compile a book made of his and Loveshade's writings and edit it in such a manner that it looks like they're best buds. It'd be a hell of an object lesson. :lulz:

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« Reply #470 on: November 20, 2012, 04:21:21 pm »
Alternately, we could compile a book made of his and Loveshade's writings and edit it in such a manner that it looks like they're best buds. It'd be a hell of an object lesson. :lulz:

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Re: Chasing Eris
« Reply #471 on: November 20, 2012, 04:32:36 pm »
And the flaws of kopyleft become apparent if they werent apparent before.

This is why nothing I write is "kopyleft". I'll usually give permission, but I want to be asked so that I have some control over where and how my words are used.
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Re: Chasing Eris
« Reply #472 on: November 20, 2012, 04:40:32 pm »
Exactly. For some things i dont care if i make money off of it or not. But i do want to make sure it and i dont get misrepresented.
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Re: Chasing Eris
« Reply #473 on: November 20, 2012, 04:52:14 pm »
Dropping Cram a note, as well, in case he is also unaware he contributed.


Expect a lecture.

Can't imagine anyone being annoyed enough to lecture for a heads up that his name was included on a list of contributors when at least one other person was unpleasantly surprised to be included.

Cramulus has views on intellectual property.  My guess is that he'll wave it off with an air of superiority concerning those views.

But I suppose we should warn him anyway.

Sent him the link.  He can wave it off or not, as he likes.
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Re: Chasing Eris
« Reply #474 on: January 17, 2013, 11:46:28 pm »
Loveshade just did another post on his book on 23ae:

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What book have Robert Anton Wilson (who saw an early draft), Rev. Ivan Stang, R. Crumb, Alan Moore, Sondra London aka The Erisian Elestria, Reverend Jason “Pee Kitty” Levine, Adam Gorightly, Johnny Shellburn, S. John Ross aka Pope Leo and Malaclypse the Younger aka Greg Hill (who never saw the whole book but read some selections) and others been talking about?  Feel free to find out!

Again implying Adam's consent and/or knowledge.

I have actually ordered the book. (I like having Discordians books, even if they are crap. I also bought "The Long Run" by Mr. Keys, because it was supposed to feature Discordianism. It doesn't in any recognizable way.) It will arrive in a while, Amazon estimates half way through February. When it does I will issue a full report of what it says.

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« Reply #475 on: January 20, 2013, 11:23:41 pm »
Loveshade is a hopeless coattailer who can't write for shit.
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« Reply #476 on: January 21, 2013, 02:57:02 am »

I have actually ordered the book.

Well, thanks for lining Loveshade's pockets with everyone else's work.  Well done.
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« Reply #477 on: November 21, 2013, 11:21:23 pm »
Roger is welcome to participate as is anyone else, so I feel it's a bit disingenous to say I'm 'perfectly fine with leaving Roger out.' I spoke to Roger regarding Loveshade in late August, and it wasn't a dealbreaker at the time. I spoke again two months later in October when he told me he wouldn't be participating, and it was clear to me that this wasn't contingent on my changing my project, and that is wasn't related to LS.

Re; the group, as I said, I handelled it badly at the time, immediately pulling out the four people who announced they wouldn't intend to be participating any more in that LS thread. I had a little freakout, stressing about the group collapsing into drama, and made a poor snap judgment. There's two people in the group now that I'm aware of who have let me know they definately will not be taking part, but rather than making the same mistake repeatedly for the sake of consistency, it seems like less drama and upset to ask those individuals to take themselves out of the group when they're ready.

I do not suspect that any of the troubles I've had over the course of the project are the result of a conspiracy of any form, and haven't suggested as much to anyone.

I'll definitely be contacting Shii, thank you. [Edit: If possible]

Also, Nigel I know you're not telling me that your participation is contingent on my leaving Loveshade out. But others were, so the comments specific to that, were meant for the people to whom they applied, not as an insult to you personally.

Looks like it's not an apology for the shit you said (but don't remember) about other people controlling your work/sabotaging your project, just an apology for freaking out and kicking us out of your group.

Which I presume is where you also said those things, and which I don't have access to, so I can't prove it.

Nice.
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« Reply #478 on: November 21, 2013, 11:21:39 pm »
Dingo's recent actions positively REEK of Captain Utopia. Especially the part where he thinks he's being reasonable in spite of it being totally obvious to everyone else how utterly fucked up his words and actions are.

Dingo, there's no reason for me to ban you from PD (personal feelings aside) but I will have to absolutely insist that the Chasing Eris project and any future projects you might look to publish are not in any way connected to PD.com. I don't even want this site, any of the content in this site, or any of the usernames on this site mentioned at all, not even in passing.

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Re: Chasing Eris
« Reply #479 on: November 22, 2013, 12:43:29 am »
Roger is welcome to participate as is anyone else, so I feel it's a bit disingenous to say I'm 'perfectly fine with leaving Roger out.' I spoke to Roger regarding Loveshade in late August, and it wasn't a dealbreaker at the time. I spoke again two months later in October when he told me he wouldn't be participating, and it was clear to me that this wasn't contingent on my changing my project, and that is wasn't related to LS.

Re; the group, as I said, I handelled it badly at the time, immediately pulling out the four people who announced they wouldn't intend to be participating any more in that LS thread. I had a little freakout, stressing about the group collapsing into drama, and made a poor snap judgment. There's two people in the group now that I'm aware of who have let me know they definately will not be taking part, but rather than making the same mistake repeatedly for the sake of consistency, it seems like less drama and upset to ask those individuals to take themselves out of the group when they're ready.

I do not suspect that any of the troubles I've had over the course of the project are the result of a conspiracy of any form, and haven't suggested as much to anyone.

I'll definitely be contacting Shii, thank you. [Edit: If possible]

Also, Nigel I know you're not telling me that your participation is contingent on my leaving Loveshade out. But others were, so the comments specific to that, were meant for the people to whom they applied, not as an insult to you personally.

Looks like it's not an apology for the shit you said (but don't remember) about other people controlling your work/sabotaging your project, just an apology for freaking out and kicking us out of your group.

Which I presume is where you also said those things, and which I don't have access to, so I can't prove it.

Nice.

There are people on this forum who have posting access. If you have a pressing need to find what it was you remember me saying I'm sure one of them will be happy to point it out for you.
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