Just. Shut. Up.

[Cuddlefish]

Free Ride.

I'm getting really sick of people bitching about this supposed "free ride" that people on welfare or any public assistance get. As if one would choose to be impoverished or disabled, or to be born in suboptimal geographical location, or be the victim of financial institutions or natural disasters or addiction or stupid people in general. Free ride. Fuck, you think it's a free ride? I don't see you quitting your job and jumping in the unemployment benefits line. I don't see you giving up your car or your physical health in order to cash in your ticket to a free fucking ride. And that's exactly what you ought to be doing if, in fact, you truly believe it to be a "free ride." Have fun in section 8, you waste of life.

Taxes.

I swear, if I hear another entitled twenty-something-year-old white person in a middle-low to low tax bracket bitch about taxes while simultaneously disputing the need to proportionately tax the highest earners I'm gonna choke a bitch. I am serious. Shut. Up.

Libertarianism.

Oh. My. Fucking. GOD. I HATE THESE PEOPLE! I never encountered a group of people so unwilling or unable to follow their own contrived ideology to it's logical conclusions since the Christians. They even do that other thing Christians do: use their broken "morality" to justify doing terrible things to other people.

Obama.

Honestly, you hate him because he's black. Please just admit this so I can stop hearing about his birth certificate or Kenya, or some other contrived bullshit. If you actually hated Obama for political or intellectual reasons, there's better shit to call him on, like drone strikes, f'rinstance. But nobody talks about that...

TTFN: Ta-Ta For Now.

[Triple Zero]

Thanks. I still don't feel comfortable admitting I'm living off welfare, disability, even. Hell I even got a look of disapproval from one of the kids at the Young Researchers Centre when he asked so if this is volunteer work, what do you do for a living? You're exactly right, too. Don't you think I'd not rather be pursuing a well-paid career in IT? Or doing a less well-paid but more challenging PHD track? Or whatever other things I might have come up with? Of course I didn't say that to the kid because I didn't think it was right to say, "do you think I WANT to be here? It's the only thing I can manage to do, right now", because I didn't want to imply I was teaching him about computers with great reluctance and that I actually want to do something else, because that's also not quite true since the work is pretty wonderful even if it's not much of a career. I really do wish it were different though, who knows I might have ended up teaching kids after all, but in a different place and also make a living off it.

[Juana Go?]

They really don't get it. With folk my age, that's inexperience - these kids assume they're "pre-rich" as Nigel (I think?) called them.
With older adults? I think it's willful.

[E.O.T.]

THE

          Obama part is confusing, I like the rest though, your free ride approach is fantastic

[Cuddlefish]

THE

          Obama part is confusing, I like the rest though, your free ride approach is fantastic

The Obama thing: How can I explain this... Person "A" is a closet racist. He dislikes Obama based on race. Racism is, at least publicly, frowned on. To save face, person "A" needs to have a reason to publicly dislike Obama, other than his race. Person "A" latches onto birther propaganda and/or starts throwing around the words "communist" and "socialist," etc. to portray his dislike as political and/or intellectual in nature, as opposed to the reality that person "A" is a racist.

If person "A" was not a racist and was truly making a judgement on reason or fact, a little research would show him that there are stronger arguments against Obama than the straw-men they're using, and they would use those stronger arguments in place of ad hominem, ad nauseum.

Then again, person "A" could just be an idiot, but the overlap between racists and idiots is probably pretty large.

Am I making sense? I can hardly tell anymore. That's why I usually try not to speak so much these days...

[E.O.T.]

YES CUDDELYFISH

          you're making perfect sense. what i meant in regards t o the Obama fragment, was you suggest reasons for hating Obama, so I'm assuming this portion is directed at a specific individual who you know to be a jerk of some kind.

AND

          by all means talk more, so you can avoid needing rantish outbreaks. as much as the rest of us like to see it happen 

[Cuddlefish]

YES CUDDELYFISH

          you're making perfect sense. what i meant in regards t o the Obama fragment, was you suggest reasons for hating Obama, so I'm assuming this portion is directed at a specific individual who you know to be a jerk of some kind.

Oh... Yeah... That.

All the topics in the OP are things I'm sick to death of hearing/seeing on fakebook. It's become overwhelming. Sometimes I wonder how I know so many of these kinds of people.

[M. Nigel Salt]

Bravo!

Also, I think I lifted "pre-rich" from Roger.

Some moron in my Sociology class very sincerely believed that he was going to go to college, get a business degree, and become wealthy.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[stelz]

They really don't get it. With folk my age, that's inexperience - these kids assume they're "pre-rich" as Nigel (I think?) called them.
With older adults? I think it's willful.

Of course it is. You see what they do when you debate something they've said "LALALALALA NOT LISTENING!"

I think it's because they're scared to look. They can't live with the Horrible Truth^(TM) so they just keep yelling to shut it out.

[stelz]

Bravo!

Also, I think I lifted "pre-rich" from Roger.

Some moron in my Sociology class very sincerely believed that he was going to go to college, get a business degree, and become wealthy.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, and I've heard alkies talk about how they're gonna rehab and go back to school and buy a big house on the beach. 

[El Twid]

Bravo!

Also, I think I lifted "pre-rich" from Roger.

Some moron in my Sociology class very sincerely believed that he was going to go to college, get a business degree, and become wealthy.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, and I've heard alkies talk about how they're gonna rehab and go back to school and buy a big house on the beach. 

Woohoo! This means I'm not an alkie! I have no desire to get a big house on the beach. I hate beaches!

[El Twid]

They really don't get it. With folk my age, that's inexperience - these kids assume they're "pre-rich" as Nigel (I think?) called them.
With older adults? I think it's willful.

Of course it is. You see what they do when you debate something they've said "LALALALALA NOT LISTENING!"

I think it's because they're scared to look. They can't live with the Horrible Truth^(TM) so they just keep yelling to shut it out.

Oh yeah. They have no interest in listening to facts. None whatsoever.

Hell, I've done the same thing saying, I'm not a huge fan of Obama and here's why. It's a real, and legitimate reason to dislike the man.

"Yeah yeah! And he's also a Kenyan socialist!"

No dude, he's not. Yes he is, his policies are all socialist. No dude. They're not. I used to be a flat out Communist. I think I know what a Socialist is. Obama is not one of them. Yes, he is. Also, you're a Communist.

Obamacare
Obamatax
Obummer
Obongo <---yeah that's not fucking racist at all
0bozo

It goes on and on. Oh hey, you're a fucking racist.

No I'm not, you're the racist for playing the race card.

I'm white.

Then you've got white guilt.

Fucking hell, there's just so much stupid in these people it's maddening. You want to choke them for being so fucking stupid and dishonest with themselves.

[stelz]

They really don't get it. With folk my age, that's inexperience - these kids assume they're "pre-rich" as Nigel (I think?) called them.
With older adults? I think it's willful.

Of course it is. You see what they do when you debate something they've said "LALALALALA NOT LISTENING!"

I think it's because they're scared to look. They can't live with the Horrible Truth^(TM) so they just keep yelling to shut it out.

Oh yeah. They have no interest in listening to facts. None whatsoever.

Hell, I've done the same thing saying, I'm not a huge fan of Obama and here's why. It's a real, and legitimate reason to dislike the man.

"Yeah yeah! And he's also a Kenyan socialist!"

No dude, he's not. Yes he is, his policies are all socialist. No dude. They're not. I used to be a flat out Communist. I think I know what a Socialist is. Obama is not one of them. Yes, he is. Also, you're a Communist.

Obamacare
Obamatax
Obummer
Obongo <---yeah that's not fucking racist at all
0bozo

It goes on and on. Oh hey, you're a fucking racist.

No I'm not, you're the racist for playing the race card.

I'm white.

Then you've got white guilt.

Fucking hell, there's just so much stupid in these people it's maddening. You want to choke them for being so fucking stupid and dishonest with themselves.

One of my friends posted this today. Perfectly nonpartisan, commonsense observation:



You can actually see the whole shutdown process in just two comments by this Michelle character:

[M. Nigel Salt]

They really don't get it. With folk my age, that's inexperience - these kids assume they're "pre-rich" as Nigel (I think?) called them.
With older adults? I think it's willful.

Of course it is. You see what they do when you debate something they've said "LALALALALA NOT LISTENING!"

I think it's because they're scared to look. They can't live with the Horrible Truth^(TM) so they just keep yelling to shut it out.

Oh yeah. They have no interest in listening to facts. None whatsoever.

Hell, I've done the same thing saying, I'm not a huge fan of Obama and here's why. It's a real, and legitimate reason to dislike the man.

"Yeah yeah! And he's also a Kenyan socialist!"

No dude, he's not. Yes he is, his policies are all socialist. No dude. They're not. I used to be a flat out Communist. I think I know what a Socialist is. Obama is not one of them. Yes, he is. Also, you're a Communist.

Obamacare
Obamatax
Obummer
Obongo <---yeah that's not fucking racist at all
0bozo

It goes on and on. Oh hey, you're a fucking racist.

No I'm not, you're the racist for playing the race card.

I'm white.

Then you've got white guilt.

Fucking hell, there's just so much stupid in these people it's maddening. You want to choke them for being so fucking stupid and dishonest with themselves.

One of my friends posted this today. Perfectly nonpartisan, commonsense observation:



You can actually see the whole shutdown process in just two comments by this Michelle character:

Wow, yeah; and most people just give up in despair at that point of dealing with a propagandist like that, because arguing with them is hopeless. I propose that we start responding to things like that with "I cannot argue with a propagandist" and see where it goes from there.

[El Twid]

That's actually a pretty good idea. Maybe followed by something like "does anyone else want to try and have an actual discussion here?"