FEMINISM vs. RACISM; CLASH OF THE TITAINS(!?!)

[E.O.T.]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2170249/I-thought-innocent-protected---hard-lesson-Celebrity-photographer-kicked-Muslim-woman-tried-help-tells-pain-branded-racist.html#ixzz201R38Idc

          I wasn't trying to be inflammatory, or condescending, or implying anything about their race or religion,' she says. 'I was trying to make sure the woman was OK because I don't think women generally do enough in small ways to help one another.

'I think he misconstrued my offer of help. I made him uncomfortable because he wasn't helping her.'

The couple became infuriated. 'The husband came up behind me and said in my ear, “You f*** off,” which I found very intimidating,' Miss Heathcote-Drury says. 'I wanted to get out of the shop as quickly as possible, but he approached me again.'

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[Suu]

I'm confused by that whole situation. Did they even bother to look at a surveillance camera? Aren't those things ALL OVER England? Then again, she also started shit by asking the husband to help the woman. Feminism or not, they obviously took offense to the fact she said something.

Moral of the story: KYFMS.

[Phox]

I'm confused by that whole situation. Did they even bother to look at a surveillance camera? Aren't those things ALL OVER England? Then again, she also started shit by asking the husband to help the woman. Feminism or not, they obviously took offense to the fact she said something.

Moral of the story: KYFMS.

Indeed, I am also confused about this. It seems just as likely to me that their side of the story is accurate as hers. I mean, maybe she didn't mean anything by her comments, but she's still dumb as a post.

[Phox]

In the end, CCTV did not show the incident, but the fact the acquittal was delivered so quickly was testament to the strength of her defence.

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Uhh. Not so sure on that last part, there....

But evidently, no, it was not caught on camera.

[stelz]

I'm confused by that whole situation. Did they even bother to look at a surveillance camera? Aren't those things ALL OVER England? Then again, she also started shit by asking the husband to help the woman. Feminism or not, they obviously took offense to the fact she said something.

Moral of the story: KYFMS.

Indeed, I am also confused about this. It seems just as likely to me that their side of the story is accurate as hers. I mean, maybe she didn't mean anything by her comments, but she's still dumb as a post.

From the article: "She was waiting to pay at the checkout when she noticed a man with two small children also queuing. They were joined by a woman wearing a hijab and a long black tunic who began unloading an overflowing trolley, one item at a time."

And

"Miss Heathcote-Drury says her initial impression was that the woman was elegantly dressed and appeared to have a French accent, while she assumed the man was of Mediterranean origin. She accepts that her offer of help caused offence, but denies her comments about British society were intended as a slight against the couple's Islamic culture."

DERP. 

[:regret:]

If she really wanted to be feminist she would have ignored the man and just started helping the struggling woman.

I sometimes help people bag groceries without asking.
That tends to confuse and scare people.
It is hilarious.
(No ill intent on my part, it's just that i sometimes forget people can be scared of me.)

[Phox]

I'm confused by that whole situation. Did they even bother to look at a surveillance camera? Aren't those things ALL OVER England? Then again, she also started shit by asking the husband to help the woman. Feminism or not, they obviously took offense to the fact she said something.

Moral of the story: KYFMS.

Indeed, I am also confused about this. It seems just as likely to me that their side of the story is accurate as hers. I mean, maybe she didn't mean anything by her comments, but she's still dumb as a post.

From the article: "She was waiting to pay at the checkout when she noticed a man with two small children also queuing. They were joined by a woman wearing a hijab and a long black tunic who began unloading an overflowing trolley, one item at a time."

And

"Miss Heathcote-Drury says her initial impression was that the woman was elegantly dressed and appeared to have a French accent, while she assumed the man was of Mediterranean origin. She accepts that her offer of help caused offence, but denies her comments about British society were intended as a slight against the couple's Islamic culture."

DERP. 

Yeah, kinda my point... 

[stelz]

If she really wanted to be feminist she would have ignored the man and just started helping the struggling woman.

I sometimes help people bag groceries without asking.
That tends to confuse and scare people.
It is hilarious.
(No ill intent on my part, it's just that i sometimes forget people can be scared of me.)

People: 

And yeah. People generally don't mind help. She came off pretty sanctimonious and patronizing.

"She says: 'I glanced over and thought, “This poor woman's going to be there for hours.” Her husband was standing closest to me, so I said to him, “Will you help her?”

'He said, “I've got the children.” I said, “Well, I can help her” and he replied, “What's it to you?” I said, “This is what feminism's about - women helping women.”
He said, “Oh, get lost.” I looked at the woman and said, “We live in a society in Britain where rights are equal - if you need help you can ask for it.” 

 

[Suu]

The dumb broad started shit by opening her mouth, and said things that were definitely offensive to the family of Islamic faith which is constantly stereotyped as being misogynistic.

In short: The woman is dumb as a sack of fucking hammers, and hopefully won't quit her day job as a photographer...IF she can still get work after this debacle.

[M. Nigel Salt]

From her own account, she sounds like she was being a sanctimonious cuntbag. If I was unloading a cart while my partner ran herd on a couple small kids and some snooty twat came up and was all, "You should help her" and "This is America, you have equal rights here and you're allowed to ask for help" I would tell her to fuck off, too. Physical assault and pressing charges is over the top, but I can certainly understand the impulse to trip her condescending ass.

If she'd actually wanted to be helpful, she would have OFFERED TO HELP. Directly to the woman. As in, "Can I help you unload?"

[P3nT4gR4m]

"Cinnamon Heathcote-Drury" - Tells me everything I need to know

[stelz]

"Cinnamon Heathcote-Drury" - Tells me everything I need to know

That's kind of a Brit version of "Buffy" or "Cookie", isn' it? 

[P3nT4gR4m]

"Cinnamon Heathcote-Drury" - Tells me everything I need to know

That's kind of a Brit version of "Buffy" or "Cookie", isn' it? 

Not quite. It's more the brit version of - related to the royal family, either by blood or by bank balance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuTMWgOduFM

Basically no one who didn't get a porche for their 18th birthday would pull shit even remotely like that.

[Pixie]

From her own account, she sounds like she was being a sanctimonious cuntbag. If I was unloading a cart while my partner ran herd on a couple small kids and some snooty twat came up and was all, "You should help her" and "This is America, you have equal rights here and you're allowed to ask for help" I would tell her to fuck off, too. Physical assault and pressing charges is over the top, but I can certainly understand the impulse to trip her condescending ass.

If she'd actually wanted to be helpful, she would have OFFERED TO HELP. Directly to the woman. As in, "Can I help you unload?"

doing things in the name of female solidarity/feminism is one thing, but announcing it is sometimes not a wise thing to do, especially if you explicitly use the word Feminism, what with the backlash against feminism and the "but we live in a post-feminist society!" bullshit. she could have just asked the lady if she needed a hand, and NOT made it implicitly publicly political.

Also one of the downsides of feminism is that it can be a middle class white lady talking shop, which kind of sucks.

[stelz]

"Cinnamon Heathcote-Drury" - Tells me everything I need to know

That's kind of a Brit version of "Buffy" or "Cookie", isn' it? 

Not quite. It's more the brit version of - related to the royal family, either by blood or by bank balance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuTMWgOduFM

Basically no one who didn't get a porche for their 18th birthday would pull shit even remotely like that.

And another aristocratic family line begins its decline, accelerated by DERP.