PUA, or pick up artist, is specifically in reference to the people who do the horrible manipulation things. It isn't even a title bestowed upon them, like Teabaggers for tea partiers. That's what they call themselves.
If you can convince the other people in the thread that you didn't mean them, you meant guys who are good with women, then I think you will have less problems. But if you are having trouble understanding why people are getting wrapped around the axle over your usage, that's why.
This all started because on page 3 someone assumed PUA techniques were being employed and instead of immediately denying that I suggested that if someone can get something out of that kind of program they should. I do think that there are places for pickup that are like the evil dojo from the Karate kid. If an instructor like Miyagi can be found is something one can hope for, where guys can become better people and be more attractive for that reason.
You really don't get it. At all.
There IS no Miyagi of PUA. It isn't a martial art. PUA is all about manipulation, degredation, and lying, both to women and to yourself. There is no "GOOD" way to do it.
If your goal is to "pick up a woman," you have already failed, miserably.
If your goal is to find a compatable partner, there ARE no tricks. Meet her, be yourself. If all the women you try to meet are rejecting you, look at YOURSELF to figure out why, not for ways to manipulate them into wanting you.