There's only a handful of you, and you're acting like obsessed lunatics.I honestly wouldn't want to ever be washed up on the shore unconscious on an island run by you lot.
"Socially liberal" involves a couple of different things. One is the ability to do with yourself and with your life as you see fit. The other is a load of different things that can be grouped together as a "social safety net". This is definitely not in keeping with "fiscally conservativism".
Well, that's only true on a very American/GOP understanding of "conservatism".
fair 'nuff
We have to be screaming and foaming at the mouth about our beliefs, to prove our credentials to our fellow-believers. It's been like that since we founded the place, after the British fucked off and left us to our own devices (after dumping religious nuts on us for 200 years. The fuckers.).
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 02, 2012, 05:22:15 pmI think I see where you're going, but could you please clarify?"Socially liberal" involves a couple of different things. One is the ability to do with yourself and with your life as you see fit. The other is a load of different things that can be grouped together as a "social safety net". This is definitely not in keeping with "fiscally conservativism".So, if you define yourself as fiscally conservative and socially liberal, either you're a "fiscally conservative" person who wants to take drugs and doesn't give a shit about Gay marriage, or you're a liberal. You can't really separate fiscal concerns from societal concerns at large. This is really why the conservative/liberal model doesn't work anymore, unless you're whole-hog one way or the other.Personally, I am a liberal in the sense that the more radical founders were liberal. I don't tell YOU what to do, and YOU don't tell ME what to do, on a personal level...But we all pay our taxes and get shit like roads and schools out of it (Jefferson, for example, was a strong proponent of public schools, and roads are written right into the constitution).
I think I see where you're going, but could you please clarify?
Currently, "fiscally conservative" can also mean, "fuck the poor, buy more guns".
It is highly notable that it almost never means what it would, literally translated, mean, which would be "cut military spending".