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Re: The Golden Dawn are taking over Athens
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2012, 09:34:21 am »

Partito Socialista Nazionale:  currently a party in Italy's Gov.   :kingmeh:

Then, for an historic misappropriation...


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Re: The Golden Dawn are taking over Athens
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2012, 10:29:12 am »
To be honest, the fascists in the Christian Democrats (now the "People of Freedom" party of Silvio Berlusconi)  are more worrying than most of the Italian fascist groups who call themselves fascist.  The major Italian parties who call themselves fascist could be more typified as "post-fascist", and while still worrying in certain ways, are more or less resigned to the role of defending the Italian state within a democratic-liberal framework and on cultural grounds.  Hell, they've even repudiated biological racism and anti-Semitism.
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Re: The Golden Dawn are taking over Athens
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2012, 12:00:33 pm »
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Re: The Golden Dawn are taking over Athens
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2012, 01:33:00 pm »
Every time I read this thread title I have a vision of the reanimated corpse of Crowley, fucking Gerald Gardiner up the ass in the middle of the Acropolis

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Re: The Golden Dawn are taking over Athens
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2012, 01:51:27 pm »
Every time I read this thread title I have a vision of the reanimated corpse of Crowley, fucking Gerald Gardiner up the ass in the middle of the Acropolis

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Re: The Golden Dawn are taking over Athens
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2012, 03:34:06 am »
To be honest, the fascists in the Christian Democrats (now the "People of Freedom" party of Silvio Berlusconi)  are more worrying than most of the Italian fascist groups who call themselves fascist.  The major Italian parties who call themselves fascist could be more typified as "post-fascist", and while still worrying in certain ways, are more or less resigned to the role of defending the Italian state within a democratic-liberal framework and on cultural grounds.  Hell, they've even repudiated biological racism and anti-Semitism.
Use of the Celtic cross as a symbol of political organization was sanctioned, primarily, by direct support of the Christian-democrat Forza Nuova, despite (or because of) it's direct association with the swastika and inciting  anti-Semitic violence.  La Democrazia Cristiana essentially associated itself with the symbol to protect and absorb the the lower-level organizers and agents of violence that operated under the symbol - covering the pernicious elements with it's greater mantle.  Overtly they do not condone the violence, but they support it.
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Re: The Golden Dawn are taking over Athens
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2012, 05:35:57 am »
The the case of the Lega Nord, I'll concede they are certainly more close to the Christian Democrat fascist faction than anyone else in Italian politics. However, even there, the ideology they are pushing is so inherently contradictory, I'm hesistant to give it any label beyond "regionalist". 

It's certainly xenophobic and culturally conservative.  Yet at the same time, cities under Lega Nord mayors have shown better efforts at social intergration of immigrant populations than any other, and the Lega Nord seem to have no particular racial issues - the first black Italian mayor belonged to their party.

There are powerful libertarian, liberal and socialist factions within the party too, which would not be the case if it was a purely fascist outfit.
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Re: The Golden Dawn are taking over Athens
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2012, 05:46:07 am »
True, this guy Bossi is the stuff nightmares are made of   :lulz:
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Re: The Golden Dawn are taking over Athens
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2012, 11:13:09 am »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/12/greece-fascists-beating-people-police

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The timing is nothing if not ironic. On the day the EU has been awarded the Nobel peace prize, we watch as Europe sits idly by and lets fascism brew once again – this time in Greece. If a sharp turn towards religious fundamentalism and fascism is to be avoided, Europe needs to act now.

On Thursday night the Athens premiere of Terrence McNally's play, Corpus Christi, was cancelled following protests by members of the far-right party Golden Dawn (including some MPs) and religious groups.

The protest had a clearly homophobic agenda. Manolis V, a journalist, was attacked by protesters while the police apparently did nothing: "The police is next to us. I shout 'They're beating me, aren't you going to do something?'," he wrote on Twitter. "I move away so I can look on from distance. A well-known Golden Dawn MP follows me. He punches me twice in the face and knocks me to the ground. While on the ground, I lose my glasses. The Golden Dawn MP kicks me. The police are just two steps away but turn their back."

The spectacle of fascists physically attacking people whose moral agenda they disapprove of has become routine in today's Greece. What should come as more of a shock is the tacit approval of the police.

When four protesters were arrested, the Golden Dawn MP Christos Pappas boarded the police bus in which they were held, and released one of the prisoners. From the video depicting the incident, we can see that no officer tried to stop him.

Golden Dawn know that the police are on their side, and so do those they attack. Manolis says he is afraid to go to the police and file a lawsuit, because he doesn't want them to have his name and address on record.

The police were not so slow to react two weeks ago when they arrested for blasphemy the man behind the satirical Facebook page of Geron Pastitsios after a question submitted in parliament by a Golden Dawn MP. Nor were they slow to react when anti-fascists clashed with Golden Dawn supporters in Amerikis square and 15 were arrested, and allegedly tortured, last week. To add insult to injury, after announcing that they are conducting an investigation into a "Golden Dawn MP", the police refused to name him, despite having no problem naming teenagers who were preemptively arrested before a demonstration three weeks ago.

The Greek Orthodox church, its huge wealth unscathed by the crisis, is in no rush to condemn its clerics for siding, condoning, instigating and participating in acts of violence and disrespect against immigrants, homosexuals and people who challenge their view of what being Greek and Orthodox entails.

Greece is being held hostage by a police force that increasingly appears beyond state control, and which has long forsaken its role of protecting citizens from the thugs they now side with, and by a government which relishes the distraction the Golden Dawn provides from the cuts and tax hikes. The government's unwillingness to revoke parliamentary privileges from those Golden Dawn MPs who participate in or condone violent acts, and to speed up processes to have them prosecuted and condemned, demonstrates this.
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Re: The Golden Dawn are taking over Athens
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2012, 12:11:24 pm »
Well you see, if only Greece would knuckle down and really austerity everything would be fine and democratic.
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Re: The Golden Dawn are taking over Athens
« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2012, 09:35:52 am »
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Re: The Golden Dawn are taking over Athens
« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2012, 06:17:59 am »
The Golden Dawn have a few seats in their parliament this year, I remember hearing on the news...I'm all for it.

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Re: The Golden Dawn are taking over Athens
« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2012, 06:20:44 am »
Golden Dawn being like a more mystical kind of Freemasonry or Rosicrucianism...I say Hzza! on their return to prominence.
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Re: The Golden Dawn are taking over Athens
« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2012, 09:16:11 am »
Golden Dawn being like a more mystical kind of Freemasonry or Rosicrucianism...I say Hzza! on their return to prominence.
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Re: The Golden Dawn are taking over Athens
« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2012, 09:21:05 am »
Probably a google fail.

Golden Dawn also refers to Warhammer 40k and some bullshit that looks like it crawled out of the DaVinci Code that is synonymous with Illuminatti.

For the record, Golden Dawn referred to herein is roughly spouted about here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(Greece)
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