Can we talk about me now? (Open bar thread #3,494)

[six to the quixotic]

The warts are all.

Oh, I know.  It's basically Tucson with a subway system.

So Tuscon lite, because the Underground isn't always trying to eat you?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The warts are all.

Oh, I know.  It's basically Tucson with a subway system.

So Tuscon lite, because the Underground isn't always trying to eat you?

I see you've never ridden the tube. 

[Cain]

I'm pretty sure a drug deal is going down outside my building.

Either that or this is a lot of people to do a late-night delivery of sherbert in clear plastic bags.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I'm pretty sure a drug deal is going down outside my building.

Either that or this is a lot of people to do a late-night delivery of sherbert in clear plastic bags.

That's just the free markey, Cain.  Nothing to worry about.

[Cain]

The warts are all.

Oh, I know.  It's basically Tucson with a subway system.

So Tuscon lite, because the Underground isn't always trying to eat you?

I see you've never ridden the tube. 

There are terrible rumours about the things that happen near the abandoned lines.  Or worse, live in them.

I'm not especially afraid of anything human in London, and I don't ride the tube late at night.

[six to the quixotic]

The warts are all.

Oh, I know.  It's basically Tucson with a subway system.

So Tuscon lite, because the Underground isn't always trying to eat you?

I see you've never ridden the tube. 

Actually, I have, for about 5 days, mostly at night, alone.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

You know, I haven't had this much fun on PD for a while.  I refer, of course, to slapping the stinky hippy around in the barstool thread up in principia discussion.

"I DO NOT LIVE IN A BUBBLE OF PRIVILEGE!"
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You can't touch this shit.




TGRR,
 

[six to the quixotic]

I think it was a good idea to go reserves now. I think it is helping keep my rage circulating.

[Uncle Wallified]

I'm starting to realize more and more that I'm pretty much Greyface incarnate. I forced myself to show up at a party tonight, and spent the entire time sitting in a corner and trying to avoid eye contact. I mean, here I am, taking an entire philosophy built around the idea of having a good time, and I was surrounded by people to whom it came naturally... And my reaction was aversion. Fear.

And I mean, in general it sucks, realizing that you're no fun at all. But in our case I think it can safely be said that it's morally wrong. So what does that make me?

[V3X]

I'm starting to realize more and more that I'm pretty much Greyface incarnate. I forced myself to show up at a party tonight, and spent the entire time sitting in a corner and trying to avoid eye contact. I mean, here I am, taking an entire philosophy built around the idea of having a good time, and I was surrounded by people to whom it came naturally... And my reaction was aversion. Fear.

And I mean, in general it sucks, realizing that you're no fun at all. But in our case I think it can safely be said that it's morally wrong. So what does that make me?

I run into this all the time. But it turns out that the fun I fail to have is usually the fun I have no interest in having. I have plenty of fun, it just doesn't look like fun to people who think "a good time" is blowing half their lives hob nobbing with fuckweasels they secretly hate.

[Uncle Wallified]

And it occurs to me that my above post has some pretty horrifying implications about Discordia, in the general vein of "HAPPINESS IS MANDATORY". Which we all know it sure as fuck isn't.

But still, I can't help feeling incredibly guilty about my inability to ever, ever laugh, and then my tendency to analyze it and moralize about the whole thing and feel guilty, which in turn is something to feel guilty over, which in turn is something to feel guilty over, etc.

It seems like my entire thought process is just a neverending loop of misery and guilt.

And then it occurs to me: Maybe I'm just not cut out for Discordia. I mean, I like the ideas. And I like the people. But I myself am a horrible, horrible example of a Discordian. I never enjoy myself. I never take an active part in making the world stranger. I feel like I'm unworthy of it. Incapable of it. I think there's something the rest of you possess that I lack, and maybe it's something that I'll never have. So my choice is obvious: I quit, or I live with being a hypocrite.

[V3X]

Yeah that does suck and it is something I have dealt with. When I lived in Tucson I rarely left my apartment or spoke to my friends for those reasons exactly. I never figured it out, I just moved to the Frozen North for 8 years and rebooted.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

And then it occurs to me: Maybe I'm just not cut out for Discordia. I mean, I like the ideas. And I like the people. But I myself am a horrible, horrible example of a Discordian. I never enjoy myself. I never take an active part in making the world stranger. I feel like I'm unworthy of it. Incapable of it. I think there's something the rest of you possess that I lack, and maybe it's something that I'll never have. So my choice is obvious: I quit, or I live with being a hypocrite.

BALLS.  ABSOLUTE RUBBISH.

Wallified, Discordia does NOT mean you run around with a stupid grin plastered on your face, unless that's how you actually feel.

You're one of us, whether or not you feel like you "are a good example".  You had a fucked up time for a lot of years.  So did I, in a very different way.  Discordia/PD helped me get through that, and it/we will try to do the same for you.

[Uncle Wallified]

And then it occurs to me: Maybe I'm just not cut out for Discordia. I mean, I like the ideas. And I like the people. But I myself am a horrible, horrible example of a Discordian. I never enjoy myself. I never take an active part in making the world stranger. I feel like I'm unworthy of it. Incapable of it. I think there's something the rest of you possess that I lack, and maybe it's something that I'll never have. So my choice is obvious: I quit, or I live with being a hypocrite.

BALLS.  ABSOLUTE RUBBISH.

Wallified, Discordia does NOT mean you run around with a stupid grin plastered on your face, unless that's how you actually feel.

Well, yeah, but it isn't about taking everything DEAD SERIOUS ALL THE FUCKING TIME either, is it?

You're one of us, whether or not you feel like you "are a good example".  You had a fucked up time for a lot of years.  So did I, in a very different way.  Discordia/PD helped me get through that, and it/we will try to do the same for you.

It did, once. Then burnout came, as it does, and with it came recoil. Push hard enough in one direction, and eventually everything will just bounce back to hit you in the face. The PD taught me that, and then it went ahead and made an example of itself just to hammer it in.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

And then it occurs to me: Maybe I'm just not cut out for Discordia. I mean, I like the ideas. And I like the people. But I myself am a horrible, horrible example of a Discordian. I never enjoy myself. I never take an active part in making the world stranger. I feel like I'm unworthy of it. Incapable of it. I think there's something the rest of you possess that I lack, and maybe it's something that I'll never have. So my choice is obvious: I quit, or I live with being a hypocrite.

BALLS.  ABSOLUTE RUBBISH.

Wallified, Discordia does NOT mean you run around with a stupid grin plastered on your face, unless that's how you actually feel.

Well, yeah, but it isn't about taking everything DEAD SERIOUS ALL THE FUCKING TIME either, is it?

If that's you, yeah it is.  If you don't like it, you start changing you.  I did it, and it wasn't fucking easy, and it's never really complete.  But you do it.

You're one of us, whether or not you feel like you "are a good example".  You had a fucked up time for a lot of years.  So did I, in a very different way.  Discordia/PD helped me get through that, and it/we will try to do the same for you.

It did, once. Then burnout came, as it does, and with it came recoil. Push hard enough in one direction, and eventually everything will just bounce back to hit you in the face. The PD taught me that, and then it went ahead and made an example of itself just to hammer it in.

Who the fuck said it's gonna be easy?  Or even interesting, all the time?  Or that it's a constant?

Welcome to the human condition.  You have to work at it.

Trust me on this, if you never listen to anything else I say.