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Well this is fucking depressing
« on: October 19, 2012, 06:56:26 pm »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2219240/Tar-Sands-Canada-worlds-largest-oil-reserve-173billion-untouched-barrels.html

Not just because of the loss of wilderness, but because of the long-term (decreasingly long-term, I should say) effects on our environment. We are fucking our own goddamn habitat just as fast as we can, and our response to the news "hey, getting all the oil out of the ground and burning it is going to bring the world as we know it to an end" is "OMG! We need to get all the oil out of the ground and burn it before the world comes to an end!"

FOR PROFITS.

GOTTA MAKE AS MANY PROFITS AS WE CAN WHILE WE STILL CAN.

It's like when you catch a little kid eating something that you know is going to make them really sick if they eat any more, and as soon as you tell them that they start eating it as fast as they can because they know you're going to make them stop.
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“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”

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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2012, 07:48:47 pm »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2219240/Tar-Sands-Canada-worlds-largest-oil-reserve-173billion-untouched-barrels.html

Not just because of the loss of wilderness, but because of the long-term (decreasingly long-term, I should say) effects on our environment. We are fucking our own goddamn habitat just as fast as we can, and our response to the news "hey, getting all the oil out of the ground and burning it is going to bring the world as we know it to an end" is "OMG! We need to get all the oil out of the ground and burn it before the world comes to an end!"

FOR PROFITS.

GOTTA MAKE AS MANY PROFITS AS WE CAN WHILE WE STILL CAN.

It's like when you catch a little kid eating something that you know is going to make them really sick if they eat any more, and as soon as you tell them that they start eating it as fast as they can because they know you're going to make them stop.

We're peripherally involved in that.  We keep saying "Hey, in about 3-5 years, we'll be able to get that shit out of the ground without killing everything for a hundred miles in every direction!  Let's cooperate on this tech, and we'll all be rich forever!"

And the 3 other companies tell us "Go shit in your hat.  FRACKING NOW.  FUCK OFF!"

"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre."
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2012, 07:49:38 pm »
Maybe if villager and i reunite we wont bother with that whole starting a family thing.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2012, 07:56:32 pm »
Maybe if villager and i reunite we wont bother with that whole starting a family thing.

Why?  The world has ALWAYS been going to hell.  Pollution was FAR worse at the turn of the last century.
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2012, 07:57:02 pm »
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People flock to live there from around the world in scenes akin to the gold rush, as they look to make their fortune from oil.
It's not like mineral rushes don't ever fuck shit up forever in places they happen. Right? Right. That totally justifies the tar sands.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2219240/Tar-Sands-Canada-worlds-largest-oil-reserve-173billion-untouched-barrels.html

Not just because of the loss of wilderness, but because of the long-term (decreasingly long-term, I should say) effects on our environment. We are fucking our own goddamn habitat just as fast as we can, and our response to the news "hey, getting all the oil out of the ground and burning it is going to bring the world as we know it to an end" is "OMG! We need to get all the oil out of the ground and burn it before the world comes to an end!"

FOR PROFITS.

GOTTA MAKE AS MANY PROFITS AS WE CAN WHILE WE STILL CAN.

It's like when you catch a little kid eating something that you know is going to make them really sick if they eat any more, and as soon as you tell them that they start eating it as fast as they can because they know you're going to make them stop.

We're peripherally involved in that.  We keep saying "Hey, in about 3-5 years, we'll be able to get that shit out of the ground without killing everything for a hundred miles in every direction!  Let's cooperate on this tech, and we'll all be rich forever!"

And the 3 other companies tell us "Go shit in your hat.  FRACKING NOW.  FUCK OFF!"
That shit worries the hell out of me.
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2012, 08:34:44 pm »
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People flock to live there from around the world in scenes akin to the gold rush, as they look to make their fortune from oil.
It's not like mineral rushes don't ever fuck shit up forever in places they happen. Right? Right. That totally justifies the tar sands.

You can get the shit out cleanly.  Honest.  We're THIS close to perfecting it.

But it costs about $0.03/bbl more.   :sad:  Poor, poor oil barons.
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2012, 08:41:36 pm »
Such a giant loss!
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2012, 08:43:29 pm »
Such a giant loss!

Oh, yeah, and I forgot to mention that you get to recover all the diesel, meaning you SAVE $0.99/bbl.

BUT THAT'S TOMORROW.  WE NEED MORE $$$ TODAY.  FUCK YOU, CANADA.
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2012, 08:54:03 pm »
Isn't Alberta Canada's Texas? Because I think that would probably explain a lot.
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2012, 08:56:49 pm »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2219240/Tar-Sands-Canada-worlds-largest-oil-reserve-173billion-untouched-barrels.html

Not just because of the loss of wilderness, but because of the long-term (decreasingly long-term, I should say) effects on our environment. We are fucking our own goddamn habitat just as fast as we can, and our response to the news "hey, getting all the oil out of the ground and burning it is going to bring the world as we know it to an end" is "OMG! We need to get all the oil out of the ground and burn it before the world comes to an end!"

FOR PROFITS.

GOTTA MAKE AS MANY PROFITS AS WE CAN WHILE WE STILL CAN.

It's like when you catch a little kid eating something that you know is going to make them really sick if they eat any more, and as soon as you tell them that they start eating it as fast as they can because they know you're going to make them stop.

We're peripherally involved in that.  We keep saying "Hey, in about 3-5 years, we'll be able to get that shit out of the ground without killing everything for a hundred miles in every direction!  Let's cooperate on this tech, and we'll all be rich forever!"

And the 3 other companies tell us "Go shit in your hat.  FRACKING NOW.  FUCK OFF!"

 :horrormirth: SHORT TERM THINKING FTW!
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“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”

“People get used to anything. The less you think about your oppression, the more your tolerance for it grows. After a while, people just think oppression is the normal state of things. But to become free, you have to be acutely aware of being a slave.”
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2012, 08:58:28 pm »
Maybe if villager and i reunite we wont bother with that whole starting a family thing.

Why?  The world has ALWAYS been going to hell.  Pollution was FAR worse at the turn of the last century.

Pollution was. Climate change wasn't.

Our climactic trajectory is bad. Very bad. We haven't passed the point of no return yet, but we've already extracted enough oil to pass the point of no return if we burn it, and of course we will, as we're busily extracting more oil.
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“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”

“People get used to anything. The less you think about your oppression, the more your tolerance for it grows. After a while, people just think oppression is the normal state of things. But to become free, you have to be acutely aware of being a slave.”
― Assata Shaku

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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2012, 09:02:03 pm »
I've got my fiddle, I'm an expert on getting naked, and after reading this, I'm feeling just a tad bit "we don't need no water, let the motherfucker burn".

Phox,
Burn, motherfucker, burn.  :horrormirth:

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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2012, 09:03:47 pm »
And do you know WHY they do that?

It's gonna piss you off.
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2012, 09:05:23 pm »
Maybe if villager and i reunite we wont bother with that whole starting a family thing.

Why?  The world has ALWAYS been going to hell.  Pollution was FAR worse at the turn of the last century.

Pollution was. Climate change wasn't.

Our climactic trajectory is bad. Very bad. We haven't passed the point of no return yet, but we've already extracted enough oil to pass the point of no return if we burn it, and of course we will, as we're busily extracting more oil.

Actually, I'm thinking that climate change got it's start, and it's big boost, from 1850-1950.  Coal technology sucks major balls.

What's moving it right along now is automobile engines.  Everyone likes to think it's some Captain Planet-esque group of bad guys.  But it's all of us.
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2012, 09:20:18 pm »
Maybe if villager and i reunite we wont bother with that whole starting a family thing.

Why?  The world has ALWAYS been going to hell.  Pollution was FAR worse at the turn of the last century.

Pollution was. Climate change wasn't.

Our climactic trajectory is bad. Very bad. We haven't passed the point of no return yet, but we've already extracted enough oil to pass the point of no return if we burn it, and of course we will, as we're busily extracting more oil.

Actually, I'm thinking that climate change got it's start, and it's big boost, from 1850-1950.  Coal technology sucks major balls.

What's moving it right along now is automobile engines.  Everyone likes to think it's some Captain Planet-esque group of bad guys.  But it's all of us.

Sure, it got its start, but that's different from a point of no return. And you're exactly right about the cars, although there are other major contributors. We have more people on earth than ever before, and a greater proportion of them than ever before drive.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/26/us-climate-thresholds-idUSBRE82P0UJ20120326

If we lose enough vegetated area that the remaining vegetation not only can't keep up with carbon emissions, but starts to die and add to them... well, "fucked forever" would be putting it lightly.
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“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”

“People get used to anything. The less you think about your oppression, the more your tolerance for it grows. After a while, people just think oppression is the normal state of things. But to become free, you have to be acutely aware of being a slave.”
― Assata Shaku