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Is there a reliable source for non-bullshit?
« on: October 21, 2012, 06:32:24 pm »
Looking for purely factual resources which support a center-moderate or scientifically sound left wing view that can be relied on for journalistic integrity and absolutely zero bias or twisted figures? Does this exist? Thanks.
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Re: Is there a reliable source for non-bullshit?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2012, 06:35:28 pm »
Looking for purely factual resources which support a center-moderate or scientifically sound left wing view that can be relied on for journalistic integrity and absolutely zero bias or twisted figures? Does this exist? Thanks.

View of what? I'd recommend peer-reviewed science journals, but without a topic, I don't know.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”

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Re: Is there a reliable source for non-bullshit?
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2012, 06:48:21 pm »
And the problem with peer review if youre trying to use the info to convince someone of something is that theyll come back that theyre only saying what theyre saying for grant money. Because science makes you rich and grant money is easy to come by.
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Re: Is there a reliable source for non-bullshit?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2012, 06:55:35 pm »
Looking for purely factual resources which support a center-moderate or scientifically sound left wing view that can be relied on for journalistic integrity and absolutely zero bias or twisted figures? Does this exist? Thanks.

View of what? I'd recommend peer-reviewed science journals, but without a topic, I don't know.

News sources, mainly. Anything to do with political stuff: economics, social welfare, women's issues...
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Re: Is there a reliable source for non-bullshit?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2012, 06:59:20 pm »
Probably the best thing you can do is look at the same story from multiple perspectives and come to a conclusion based off that. Or fox news and pretend its opposite day.
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Re: Is there a reliable source for non-bullshit?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2012, 07:10:33 pm »
The guy who sits next to me at work swears by BBC news.

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Re: Is there a reliable source for non-bullshit?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2012, 07:11:26 pm »
Looking for purely factual resources which support a center-moderate or scientifically sound left wing view that can be relied on for journalistic integrity and absolutely zero bias or twisted figures? Does this exist? Thanks.

Your own mind and multiple sources.
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Re: Is there a reliable source for non-bullshit?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2012, 11:23:40 pm »
Looking for purely factual resources which support a center-moderate or scientifically sound left wing view that can be relied on for journalistic integrity and absolutely zero bias or twisted figures? Does this exist? Thanks.

Your own mind and multiple sources.

I've got to third this. And check sources whenever possible, because a lot of the time the actual source says something different from what the media reports, especially if it's science.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”

“People get used to anything. The less you think about your oppression, the more your tolerance for it grows. After a while, people just think oppression is the normal state of things. But to become free, you have to be acutely aware of being a slave.”
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Re: Is there a reliable source for non-bullshit?
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2012, 11:39:11 pm »
The guy who sits next to me at work swears by BBC news.

You might want to point out to that guy the BBC almost certainly helped cover up the predatory pedophilic tendencies of one of their most famous presenters, to the point of shelving a Newsnight investigation into the claims last year.

This presenter was especially well known for a program which gave him access to young children.
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Re: Is there a reliable source for non-bullshit?
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2012, 03:16:46 am »
The guy who sits next to me at work swears by BBC news.

You might want to point out to that guy the BBC almost certainly helped cover up the predatory pedophilic tendencies of one of their most famous presenters, to the point of shelving a Newsnight investigation into the claims last year.

This presenter was especially well known for a program which gave him access to young children.

Nice. What was his name?

It seems that every news organization has its biases, but most of them have different ones. The more sources you use, the easier it becomes to separate truth from BS. I really miss Newsworld International, which was just news programs from all over the world.

If I recall correctly, it was Al Gore (and friends) that bought that channel and turned it to shit.

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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2012, 04:22:52 am »
If you're looking for a news source with absolutely zero bias, you'll be searching 'til your deathday.
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Re: Is there a reliable source for non-bullshit?
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2012, 04:57:53 am »
Yeah.

Here's one I was playing around with: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/08/09/kansas-doctor-under-attack-for-not-forcing-ten-year-old-rape-victim-to-give-birth/

The part that says "It’s so bad that state officials have attempted to prosecute a Planned Parenthood clinic for falsifying documents" links to a petition site.

The part of the petition site that says "A judge last week threw out charges that a Kansas City area Planned Parenthood clinic falsified records..." links to the ABC News home page and no article.

There's still the search function but yeah, it could take all night to get one story straight. Fucking useless.  :x
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Re: Is there a reliable source for non-bullshit?
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2012, 05:36:50 am »
Riffing off Twid....you could do fox news in one ear phone and NPR in the other. 

OTOH, maybe researching some bloggers might get you closer to what you want.  The trouble, as it seems to me, is there's an agenda associated with the news networks.  There might be a good chance that you might find a blogger or two with the independent news mentality.

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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2012, 05:41:45 am »
Yeah.

Here's one I was playing around with: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/08/09/kansas-doctor-under-attack-for-not-forcing-ten-year-old-rape-victim-to-give-birth/

The part that says "It’s so bad that state officials have attempted to prosecute a Planned Parenthood clinic for falsifying documents" links to a petition site.

The part of the petition site that says "A judge last week threw out charges that a Kansas City area Planned Parenthood clinic falsified records..." links to the ABC News home page and no article.

There's still the search function but yeah, it could take all night to get one story straight. Fucking useless.  :x

Theoretically, HIPPAA should make cases like this difficult to track, for obvious reasons, so that's a complicated question.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”

“People get used to anything. The less you think about your oppression, the more your tolerance for it grows. After a while, people just think oppression is the normal state of things. But to become free, you have to be acutely aware of being a slave.”
― Assata Shaku

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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2012, 05:43:57 am »
HOWEVER, this is where you google the headline to see where else it showed up, and whether other sources collaborate.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”

“People get used to anything. The less you think about your oppression, the more your tolerance for it grows. After a while, people just think oppression is the normal state of things. But to become free, you have to be acutely aware of being a slave.”
― Assata Shaku