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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #45 on: November 08, 2012, 04:54:16 pm »
Oh yes, for sure.  But I doubt Cameron telling them it's not connected is going to have the desired effect.


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I'm going to have to give this some more thought in a while but, here's how I perceive people's perceptions. (Woo..how meta!)

(a) Some people think that Homosexual = Paedophile. They seem certain that it's older males attracted to younger males exclusively. The classic meme for this being the dodgy Priest or the sketchy Boyscout leader.

(b) Older males abusing younger females is frowned upon for the most part. But then there's 'barely legal' porn, and the extensive sexualization of children, especially girls. There was a woman on a talk show here recently (think it was Anderson Cooper). She was getting verbally bitchslapped by an angry audience. Apparently, she couldn't see the problem with dressing up her little girl as Julia Roberts from "Pretty Woman" or like the biker chicks you see in magazines or garage calendars. And god forbid we even mention child beauty pageants. [shudder]. Seems like society is saying that abusing little girls is bad but getting them to dress, move or act like sexually mature adults is ok.....at least it's not GHEY, right??

(c) The discussion of women sexually abusing children of either sex is almost never discussed. [Unless a 20 something female teacher beds one of her teen something charges. Otherwise, this is invisible.]

(d) The predatory paedophile, while obviously a problem, has become like the serial killer in popular crime shows & movies. Fact is, most people don't get killed by serial killers. They usually get murdered by people they know and much child abuse occurs in the same manner. When people think of paedophiles, they tend to think of a man in a white van abducting little kids. Makes for great headlines, but victims of sexual abuse that I've met never suffered it under soapy, Hollywood like conditions. The evil was much more banal. 
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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2012, 11:54:26 am »
So, this is interesting

http://thesumpplug.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/don-jimmy-gambino-obe.html

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What exactly is going on here? Being driven around in a succession of fuck-you flash cars, the big cigars, never spending two nights running in the same house, flitting from nightspot to nightspot with a posse of big-muscled minders, packing a big roll of banknotes to pay off the police, demanding and receiving tithes from his underlings’ illicit earnings.... What does all that suggest to you: the quirks and foibles of a wannabe showbiz personality or the typical trappings of a mob boss?

Beneath the veneer of a Mecca middle manager, it looks as though Jimmy Savile was running a large-scale protection racket at dozens and dozens of Northern dance halls and nightclubs for the best part of two decades.

A lippy little tyke with his hair in a tartan bob (Black Watch, as he liked to point out) is all that most people chose to see. But up North he ruled the night. How’s about that, then?

Worth looking at the rest of the blog too, for such articles as this http://thesumpplug.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/the-sorcerers-apprentice.html

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Ray Teret kickstarted his career as Jimmy Savile's friend, flatmate, flunky and factotum. He stood in for Savile when he wasn't around and stood up for him when he was. He fixed things for the man who was destined to become Mr Fix-It. He was Savile's Mini-me, his H. R. Haldeman, his young ward Robin and his Squeaky Fromme all rolled into one.

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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #47 on: November 27, 2012, 11:00:09 pm »
So, this is interesting

http://thesumpplug.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/don-jimmy-gambino-obe.html

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What exactly is going on here? Being driven around in a succession of fuck-you flash cars, the big cigars, never spending two nights running in the same house, flitting from nightspot to nightspot with a posse of big-muscled minders, packing a big roll of banknotes to pay off the police, demanding and receiving tithes from his underlings’ illicit earnings.... What does all that suggest to you: the quirks and foibles of a wannabe showbiz personality or the typical trappings of a mob boss?

Beneath the veneer of a Mecca middle manager, it looks as though Jimmy Savile was running a large-scale protection racket at dozens and dozens of Northern dance halls and nightclubs for the best part of two decades.

A lippy little tyke with his hair in a tartan bob (Black Watch, as he liked to point out) is all that most people chose to see. But up North he ruled the night. How’s about that, then?

Worth looking at the rest of the blog too, for such articles as this http://thesumpplug.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/the-sorcerers-apprentice.html

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Ray Teret kickstarted his career as Jimmy Savile's friend, flatmate, flunky and factotum. He stood in for Savile when he wasn't around and stood up for him when he was. He fixed things for the man who was destined to become Mr Fix-It. He was Savile's Mini-me, his H. R. Haldeman, his young ward Robin and his Squeaky Fromme all rolled into one.

And now it's time for another edition of......

"Publicize the dead paedophile MP!"

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/sir-cyril-smith-young-boys-were-abused-181133212.html
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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #48 on: November 28, 2012, 12:58:44 am »
So, this is interesting

http://thesumpplug.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/don-jimmy-gambino-obe.html

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What exactly is going on here? Being driven around in a succession of fuck-you flash cars, the big cigars, never spending two nights running in the same house, flitting from nightspot to nightspot with a posse of big-muscled minders, packing a big roll of banknotes to pay off the police, demanding and receiving tithes from his underlings’ illicit earnings.... What does all that suggest to you: the quirks and foibles of a wannabe showbiz personality or the typical trappings of a mob boss?

Beneath the veneer of a Mecca middle manager, it looks as though Jimmy Savile was running a large-scale protection racket at dozens and dozens of Northern dance halls and nightclubs for the best part of two decades.

A lippy little tyke with his hair in a tartan bob (Black Watch, as he liked to point out) is all that most people chose to see. But up North he ruled the night. How’s about that, then?

Worth looking at the rest of the blog too, for such articles as this http://thesumpplug.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/the-sorcerers-apprentice.html

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Ray Teret kickstarted his career as Jimmy Savile's friend, flatmate, flunky and factotum. He stood in for Savile when he wasn't around and stood up for him when he was. He fixed things for the man who was destined to become Mr Fix-It. He was Savile's Mini-me, his H. R. Haldeman, his young ward Robin and his Squeaky Fromme all rolled into one.

And now it's time for another edition of......

"Publicize the dead paedophile MP!"

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/sir-cyril-smith-young-boys-were-abused-181133212.html

What the fuck? Is being a member of Pedo Club part of the requirements?
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #49 on: November 28, 2012, 09:11:40 am »
And now it's time for another edition of......

"Publicize the dead paedophile MP!"

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/sir-cyril-smith-young-boys-were-abused-181133212.html

Yet another Amazing Dead Politician Pedo.

Incredible how quickly the police can confirm in death what they were unable to talk about while a person was alive...it's almost as if there was prior knowledge of the offences committed...

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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2013, 05:20:36 pm »
http://davidhencke.wordpress.com/2012/12/14/exclusive-police-re-open-investigation-into-london-political-paedo-ring/

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Exaro News ( http://www.exaronews.com) today reveals that for the last two months the police have secretly been scoping a new investigation into senior politicians and their involvement in a paedophile ring, involving  under age boys, that took place in the 1980s.

This is separate to the current Operation Yewtree  investigation into Jimmy Savile and other celebrities, which mainly involves under age girls.

They are looking again at a raid that took place in 1982 on a  guest house in Barnes, south London, which appeared to be being used as a gay brothel and was frequented by prominent figures including, I am told, ministers, Tory MPs, a Liberal MP and two Labour Mps. Under age boys in  the care  of Richmond council and other local authorities were  visiting or staying at the guest house.

However, it should be noted that the police reasons for investigating this might not be out of genuine concern for the victims and a sense of justice.

As anyone who has been following the "Plebgate" scandal knows, it seems the Metropolitan Police are not very happy with the Tories, and indeed attempted to stitch up the Chief Whip with a faked but plausible controversy.

My belief is that the cuts, along with the handling of the Leveson Inquiry, made the police very unhappy with the Tories, and there is a simmering sense of resentment among the rank and file...the sort of feeling that leads to bent coppers trying every dirty trick in the book to get their target in trouble.

Such a ring may exist.  Actual members of the ring may even be implicated.  But then again, maybe they won't be.

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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2013, 06:49:14 pm »
http://davidhencke.wordpress.com/2012/12/14/exclusive-police-re-open-investigation-into-london-political-paedo-ring/

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Exaro News ( http://www.exaronews.com) today reveals that for the last two months the police have secretly been scoping a new investigation into senior politicians and their involvement in a paedophile ring, involving  under age boys, that took place in the 1980s.

This is separate to the current Operation Yewtree  investigation into Jimmy Savile and other celebrities, which mainly involves under age girls.

They are looking again at a raid that took place in 1982 on a  guest house in Barnes, south London, which appeared to be being used as a gay brothel and was frequented by prominent figures including, I am told, ministers, Tory MPs, a Liberal MP and two Labour Mps. Under age boys in  the care  of Richmond council and other local authorities were  visiting or staying at the guest house.

However, it should be noted that the police reasons for investigating this might not be out of genuine concern for the victims and a sense of justice.

As anyone who has been following the "Plebgate" scandal knows, it seems the Metropolitan Police are not very happy with the Tories, and indeed attempted to stitch up the Chief Whip with a faked but plausible controversy.

My belief is that the cuts, along with the handling of the Leveson Inquiry, made the police very unhappy with the Tories, and there is a simmering sense of resentment among the rank and file...the sort of feeling that leads to bent coppers trying every dirty trick in the book to get their target in trouble.

Such a ring may exist.  Actual members of the ring may even be implicated.  But then again, maybe they won't be.

Damn you History Channel!! That's how they end every single program: "Jesus might have been an Egyptian wizard from Mars....or he might not...we'll never know...but what if he was!??"

Seriously though....it would be entirely unsurprising if there was a ring consisting of MPs and sundry other power types. One of the many annoying features of conspiracy theorists (aside from them being barking mad) is that they are always looking for something vast, all encompassing and grand. I think that they miss the point that many conspiracies are actually much more banal & mundane (though no less disgusting.)  Something as basic and base as 'A bunch of pervs used their political influence to fuck children for kicks' is a lot more believable than 'The US has reverse engineered UFO propulsion and don't want you to know'. Proving the existence of sexual perversion is a hell of lot easier than making a case for space aliens.

Also - Jim Davidson is the latest 'celeb' caught up in the Saville wake. Did the police just sit down and write a list of 'obnoxious entertainers of the 80s'?  Freddie Starr, DLT and Jim Davidson.
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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2013, 06:51:49 pm »
To be honest though, if those guys hadn't been on TV, everyone would have gotten massive pedo vibes off them anyway.  I mean, imagine seeing the ghoulish viasge of Jimmy Savile without ever having known of him before.  My first reaction as an adult would be to look for a knife and then a wall to put my back to.

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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2013, 07:06:38 pm »
To be honest though, if those guys hadn't been on TV, everyone would have gotten massive pedo vibes off them anyway.  I mean, imagine seeing the ghoulish viasge of Jimmy Savile without ever having known of him before.  My first reaction as an adult would be to look for a knife and then a wall to put my back to.

Yeah, I think Jon Stewart did a bit on this on the Daily Show. They showed Sir Jim looking particularly skeevy and deranged and asked "How did you not know this guy was sick?"

With people like Freddie Star or Davidson, you have the venerable British institution of 'sea side post card' or 'Carry On' movies whereby 'cheeky chappies' are condoned for being over sexed assholes. None of the people who have been called in for interview have struck me as being especially surprising.
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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2013, 07:28:30 pm »
Just calling it now - Bruce Forsythe will get his collar felt sooner or later.


On a different note, my newsfeed has had a bunch of "female teacher paedophile" stories from the US as of late, with consistent minor sentencing. The situation is much the same in the UK and I imagine in Europe. Any takers on speculating when crime will become equal?

I get that many think that the pupil is just a lucky bastard, but look at some of the mugshots and they're really not. Shallow, yes, but the point remains that abusers are not supermodels or adonis-like in the most part. It remains that it was an abusive situation, yet the sentencing disparity is amazing. Something to do with re-offending stats?
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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2013, 08:34:20 pm »
Not so sure about Brucie. Struck me more as a 'traditional' pussy hound - 6ft leggy blondes and all that.

Rod Hull, on the other hand? If anyone is interested in running a sweep I'll buy that for a dollar
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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2013, 08:38:01 pm »
I'm running the book at our place. £1/name, next named(dead)/arrested(alive) takes the current pot.


Jim Davidson getting pinched was a nice return to work.

Edit- Brucie was more for my own personal satisfaction. If someone else tries to tell me about who fucking danced what with a particular H list celeb I will not be held accountable for my actions. I sent a memo and everything.
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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #57 on: January 09, 2013, 04:32:34 pm »
Not so sure about Brucie. Struck me more as a 'traditional' pussy hound - 6ft leggy blondes and all that.

Rod Hull, on the other hand? If anyone is interested in running a sweep I'll buy that for a dollar

I was going to mention Rod Hull in my last post. 

(By the way, on the other hand was Emu.)
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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2013, 05:08:40 pm »
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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2013, 03:01:39 pm »
http://www.nspcc.org.uk/news-and-views/our-news/child-protection-news/13-01-11-yewtree-report/yewtree-report-pdf_wdf93652.pdf

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Children as young as eight were abused by Jimmy Savile, a report detailing 50 years of allegations has revealed.

The Met Police and NSPCC outlined offences at 13 hospitals, including Great Ormond Street in London and Wheatfields Hospice in Leeds.

Some 214 crimes were recorded across 28 police force areas, including 34 of rape or penetration, the report said.

The CPS apologised for missing the opportunity to prosecute Savile in 2009, while he was still alive.

Police said the victims' accounts painted a "compelling picture of widespread sexual abuse by a predatory sex offender," and Cdr Peter Spindler, who is leading the abuse probe, said Savile had "groomed the nation".