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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2013, 04:19:34 pm »
http://www.nspcc.org.uk/news-and-views/our-news/child-protection-news/13-01-11-yewtree-report/yewtree-report-pdf_wdf93652.pdf

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Children as young as eight were abused by Jimmy Savile, a report detailing 50 years of allegations has revealed.

The Met Police and NSPCC outlined offences at 13 hospitals, including Great Ormond Street in London and Wheatfields Hospice in Leeds.

Some 214 crimes were recorded across 28 police force areas, including 34 of rape or penetration, the report said.

The CPS apologised for missing the opportunity to prosecute Savile in 2009, while he was still alive.

Police said the victims' accounts painted a "compelling picture of widespread sexual abuse by a predatory sex offender," and Cdr Peter Spindler, who is leading the abuse probe, said Savile had "groomed the nation".

Depressing. And is it just me, or was there something weirdly excessive about all the graphs & pie charts? "Well, as you can see, when we do a statistical analysis, on average a 14 year girl had a 23% chance of getting raped by Savile, but her risk factor would have greatly decreased had she lived in Devon instead of Yorkshire."
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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #61 on: January 11, 2013, 07:42:23 pm »
I will admit to laughing when Jim Davidson was pinched by the old bill, and then feeling bad for laughing. Not about the arrest, just that there was potential victims by the vile little scrote-weasel. With his sexist and misogynistic bullshit excuse for humour, I was hardly surprised.

 
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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2013, 07:47:37 pm »
http://www.nspcc.org.uk/news-and-views/our-news/child-protection-news/13-01-11-yewtree-report/yewtree-report-pdf_wdf93652.pdf

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Children as young as eight were abused by Jimmy Savile, a report detailing 50 years of allegations has revealed.

The Met Police and NSPCC outlined offences at 13 hospitals, including Great Ormond Street in London and Wheatfields Hospice in Leeds.

Some 214 crimes were recorded across 28 police force areas, including 34 of rape or penetration, the report said.

The CPS apologised for missing the opportunity to prosecute Savile in 2009, while he was still alive.

Police said the victims' accounts painted a "compelling picture of widespread sexual abuse by a predatory sex offender," and Cdr Peter Spindler, who is leading the abuse probe, said Savile had "groomed the nation".

Depressing. And is it just me, or was there something weirdly excessive about all the graphs & pie charts? "Well, as you can see, when we do a statistical analysis, on average a 14 year girl had a 23% chance of getting raped by Savile, but her risk factor would have greatly decreased had she lived in Devon instead of Yorkshire."

graphs often make things a lot clearer to understand with stats on sexual assault. What i find depressing is that there were enough assaults to actually need any graphs and tables.
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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #63 on: January 14, 2013, 09:48:51 pm »
The Sunday Express is now claiming that Savile was part of a "Satanic ring" of child abusers.

Link.

Satanic Ritual Abuse is a tricky subject.  On the one hand, I am very sceptical of all claims by the Express, a paper best known for tabloid gossip and racist rants.  More pertinently, I am sceptical about the prevalence of Satanic Ritual Abuse.  The claims of the like of Valerie Sinason, of widespread networks of such abuse are very hard to credit.  Furthermore, the whole thing feeds into some very disturbing territory traditionally populated by White Nationalists and Christian Extremists ranting about the NWO.

However.

At the same time, I believe the counter-claim that Satanic Ritual Abuse has never ever happened in the history of the world ever, and anyone who claims otherwise is a deluded conspiracy theorist to be equally suspect.  One of the chief groups that played a role in debunking all SRA-claimed cases includes the False Memory Syndrome Foundation - whose board of members include contributers to a pro-paedophilic journal based out of Amsterdam. 

Satanic inspired ritual murders happen all the time, so the idea that abuse does not is patently laughable.  The real question is the extent and prevalence of such acts.

Now, in this particular case, the "evidence" comes from a single person, with a suspect location for the crime.  I'm inclined to disbelieve it.  That doesn't mean Savile wasn't a SRAbuser, however, the evidence he was is not convincing at all in this case.  I'm also inclined by the relative scarcity of such acts in comparison to overall rates of abuse to give it a low probability rating, unless some very credible evidence can swing things in the other direction.

See, this Bayesian thing does have its uses.

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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #64 on: January 14, 2013, 10:35:28 pm »
On the OTHER other hand, though, who cares what motivated the abuse?  It's not like one kind of pedo shit is acceptable, and another kind isn't.

Thing is, find out if anyone else was involved or covering up or whatever, and then hang 'em all higher than Haman.
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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #65 on: January 14, 2013, 11:01:28 pm »
True, the interest is fairly purient, and merely done to move copy, I suspect.

I have a professional interest in the psychopathology of certain criminal behaviour, which makes me curious in general about cases like this, but for most people, it shouldn't make a difference.

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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #66 on: January 14, 2013, 11:22:14 pm »
Couple of famous fucks fiddling with kiddies is outrage and horrible but, for a lot of peeps, TEH DEVIL is "OMG ARMAGEDON IS COMING"

I'm not even talking born again freakshows like you get in the states, just your average punter that doesn't question that kind of indoctrinated shit and still believes on some level that suernatural crap like that is feasible.

Then Dubya froths "Axis of evil" and little stories like this reinforce the fact that we're under attack by demonic minions.

I often wonder if the spin they often chuck on shit like this is just stockpiling ammunition for a future invocation of Holy Crusade.

Of course, maybe it's not. Maybe society is still more superstitious than I give it credit for and certain demographics will always be looking out for evidence of lucifer
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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #67 on: January 21, 2013, 08:10:20 am »
Hmmm...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-seize-vip-list-in-dawn-1546351

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A list of names seized by police probing allegations of child abuse includes ministers, members of the royal household and a world-famous pop star...

All were recorded as visitors to a suburban guest house that operated as a gay brothel.

Now some could be suspects in an investigation into a network of powerful people who were secret paedophiles for years.

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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #68 on: January 22, 2013, 09:32:18 pm »
Hmmm...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-seize-vip-list-in-dawn-1546351

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A list of names seized by police probing allegations of child abuse includes ministers, members of the royal household and a world-famous pop star...

All were recorded as visitors to a suburban guest house that operated as a gay brothel.

Now some could be suspects in an investigation into a network of powerful people who were secret paedophiles for years.

Oh tabloid press. They lead in with the inflammatory:

A list of names seized by police probing allegations of child abuse includes ministers, members of the royal household and a world-famous pop star, the Sunday People can reveal.


But later point out:

One of those is a best-selling musician, but like some others on the list he is not suspected of being involved in the child abuse.


So, the famous musician cited in the beginning of the article is both part of and not part of an investigation of child abuse? Schrodinger's Paedophile?
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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #69 on: January 22, 2013, 09:35:44 pm »
They're on the list of patrons but are not suspects.

Seems pretty straightforward to me...
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #70 on: January 22, 2013, 09:42:22 pm »
They're on the list of patrons but are not suspects.

Seems pretty straightforward to me...


But you are intelligent, literate and not the target audience of Brit newspapers like The Mirror.

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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #71 on: January 22, 2013, 10:45:33 pm »
They're on the list of patrons but are not suspects.

Seems pretty straightforward to me...


But you are intelligent, literate and not the target audience of Brit newspapers like The Mirror.

This! Tabloid press have no agenda here besides unit sales. "FAMOUS ROCK STAR IN SHOCK PEDO HORROR full story on page 5" Page 5 will inevitably show a random musician along with a caption that reads "A famous rock star" Facts will be buried in the screeds of TL/DR which, for most readers, is the part after the byline.

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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #72 on: March 17, 2013, 03:56:14 pm »
So, uh, given some of the other rumours about Savile, this obit takes on a sinister and disturbing tone:

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His closest relationship was with his mother, Agnes, whom Savile called “the Duchess”.

After her death in 1973, Savile sequestered himself with her body for five days, which he subsequently claimed were the “best five days of my life … She looked marvellous. She belonged to me. It’s wonderful, is death.” In later years he felt obliged to explain that he had not buried her sooner “because the ground was icy”. He continued to keep her room exactly as it was, and would have her clothes dry-cleaned once a year.

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Re: Brit Spags! So Jim fixed it...
« Reply #73 on: March 17, 2013, 04:43:34 pm »
And now it's time for another edition of......

"Publicize the dead paedophile MP!"

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/sir-cyril-smith-young-boys-were-abused-181133212.html

Yet another Amazing Dead Politician Pedo.

Incredible how quickly the police can confirm in death what they were unable to talk about while a person was alive...it's almost as if there was prior knowledge of the offences committed...

This post. This THREAD.
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Enlightening, though.
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« Reply #74 on: March 17, 2013, 05:05:10 pm »
So, uh, given some of the other rumours about Savile, this obit takes on a sinister and disturbing tone:

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His closest relationship was with his mother, Agnes, whom Savile called “the Duchess”.

After her death in 1973, Savile sequestered himself with her body for five days, which he subsequently claimed were the “best five days of my life … She looked marvellous. She belonged to me. It’s wonderful, is death.” In later years he felt obliged to explain that he had not buried her sooner “because the ground was icy”. He continued to keep her room exactly as it was, and would have her clothes dry-cleaned once a year.

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“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”