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Re: Two layers of thought
« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2012, 10:56:07 pm »
Reverend Roadkill, you are a new breed: Trolls who get by on accusing others of trolling.

Yes, I am trolling PD.  I admit it.  I have been doing so since January of 2002, and it took a genius like you to expose my fiendish plan.  I in fact became an admin specifically to make this easier.  You sir, are a regular fucking SHERLOCK HOLMES, and I think everyone on this here board should take a moment to thank you.


In any case, as V3x has pointed out, we've only been having this conversation for 8 years, so there wasn't much chance you'd see it.  Of course, at no time did we holler at people to MOVE FORWARD, which explains why, despite our having written several books and pamphlets on the subject, we've made no progress at all.

Now, if you don't mind, I'd like to clear the checklist off...So please accuse me of the following things:

1.  Not being a REAL Discordian.
2.  Controling the minds of the other members, ala Jim Jones or with orbital mind control lasers, etc.
3.  Being an old curmudgeony bald-headed bastard.
4.  Hivemind.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Two layers of thought
« Reply #46 on: October 30, 2012, 10:58:58 pm »
I'm just trying to figure out how suddenly his asshole behavior is our fault.
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Re: Two layers of thought
« Reply #47 on: October 30, 2012, 11:05:38 pm »
That could be diagnosed as several things.

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Re: Two layers of thought
« Reply #48 on: October 31, 2012, 12:18:28 am »

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Re: Two layers of thought
« Reply #49 on: October 31, 2012, 03:27:38 pm »
"What can we do to help you stop screaming?"

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Re: Two layers of thought
« Reply #50 on: October 31, 2012, 03:50:53 pm »
I'm thinking it was an oblique recursive reference to the admonishment to "keep the conversation going."
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Re: Two layers of thought
« Reply #51 on: October 31, 2012, 03:55:35 pm »
Oh.  No actually--I was just appreciating how the three of you pretty much won the thread.  That is to say, if there was a thread to be won at all.

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Re: Two layers of thought
« Reply #52 on: October 31, 2012, 04:58:15 pm »
So, in the general vein of "this conversation didn't go where I want," I've found myself a couple times now put things up and then get responses that feel like I failed to communicate what I really wanted to. So far I've attempted shrieking and ignoring it, both of which are pretty unsatisfactory and dumb. Is there a good way to say "you went way the hell over to left field with that and I was aiming somewhere else entirely" without it coming across as a judgment of the person responding or the general quality of their response?
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Re: Two layers of thought
« Reply #54 on: October 31, 2012, 08:41:13 pm »
OK thanks for chiming in, all. BUT. We didn't take the discussion as far as I was trying to go into. You all agreed that even relatively intelligent people will react emotionally rather than rationally when confronted with an idea that actually challenges an assumption they have based a lot on. But why? Why is it I was attracted to such things and others aren't? I mean I could go into genetics and how large populations of our relative recent ancestors were bred to be submissive to an idea.

It seems that people are still under the yoke we've just been given the freedom to chose a yoke. I mean huge movements of thought will sweep our population (which is a new phenomenon, as far as how common that has become) but can possibly be useless when put up to actual intellectual scrutiny. In short, we seem to have given ignorance a veneer of intelligence. I believe this to be dangerous in that people are electing officials into power who are pandering to these thoughts. Please continue.

Who's this "we"? You posted once and disappeared for three days. I didn't realize everyone else was supposed to dance for your entertainment while you were gone. If you're interested in the topic, keep the conversation going. I don't feel the need to hash it out for you; those of us who have had the same discussion in the past probably don't find it as compelling as those for whom it is fresh and new, which at this point appears to just be you.
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Re: Two layers of thought
« Reply #55 on: October 31, 2012, 09:08:46 pm »
So, in the general vein of "this conversation didn't go where I want," I've found myself a couple times now put things up and then get responses that feel like I failed to communicate what I really wanted to. So far I've attempted shrieking and ignoring it, both of which are pretty unsatisfactory and dumb. Is there a good way to say "you went way the hell over to left field with that and I was aiming somewhere else entirely" without it coming across as a judgment of the person responding or the general quality of their response?

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Re: Two layers of thought
« Reply #56 on: October 31, 2012, 10:00:26 pm »
Now, if you don't mind, I'd like to clear the checklist off...So please accuse me of the following things:

1.  Not being a REAL Discordian.
2.  Controling the minds of the other members, ala Jim Jones or with orbital mind control lasers, etc.
3.  Being an old curmudgeony bald-headed bastard.
4.  Hivemind.

Thanks in advance.

I caught that - trying to slip #3 in there like it isn't true.  :)
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Re: Two layers of thought
« Reply #57 on: October 31, 2012, 11:56:02 pm »
Now, if you don't mind, I'd like to clear the checklist off...So please accuse me of the following things:

1.  Not being a REAL Discordian.
2.  Controling the minds of the other members, ala Jim Jones or with orbital mind control lasers, etc.
3.  Being an old curmudgeony bald-headed bastard.
4.  Hivemind.

Thanks in advance.

I caught that - trying to slip #3 in there like it isn't true.  :)

Actually, I have hair this month.
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Re: Two layers of thought
« Reply #58 on: November 01, 2012, 08:14:28 pm »
Now, if you don't mind, I'd like to clear the checklist off...So please accuse me of the following things:

1.  Not being a REAL Discordian.
2.  Controling the minds of the other members, ala Jim Jones or with orbital mind control lasers, etc.
3.  Being an old curmudgeony bald-headed bastard.
4.  Hivemind.

Thanks in advance.

I caught that - trying to slip #3 in there like it isn't true.  :)

Actually, I have hair this month.

So, in terms of ratio, the relative increase of hair on your person is infinitesimal. ;) Q.E.D., you're about as bald as before.
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Re: Two layers of thought
« Reply #59 on: November 05, 2012, 03:40:56 pm »
Now, if you don't mind, I'd like to clear the checklist off...So please accuse me of the following things:

1.  Not being a REAL Discordian.
2.  Controling the minds of the other members, ala Jim Jones or with orbital mind control lasers, etc.
3.  Being an old curmudgeony bald-headed bastard.
4.  Hivemind.

Thanks in advance.

I caught that - trying to slip #3 in there like it isn't true.  :)

Actually, I have hair this month.

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