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Re: Sinister Forces
« Reply #90 on: August 12, 2013, 08:39:30 am »
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But the combination of Manson’s Scientology and occult training in prison (including his contact with the Process and possibly the OTO), his horrific childhood experiences, his compulsive sexuality, and the use of LSD and other hallucinogens in specifically ritual circumstances suggests another agenda entirely. He was conscious of the uses to which hallucinogens could be put, and he himself underwent an LSD-assisted “crucifixion” in the California desert, as we have seen. The breakdown of the psyches of his followers through indoctrination, sex, and drugs, coupled with the creation of alternate personalities, the removal of his followers to isolated encampments far from city centers, his insistence that they commit criminal acts like stealing, fraud, etc. to further isolate them psychologically from society, and the manipulation of their memories so that they began to view their childhoods as something evil and “programmed,” all contributed to their creation as murderous robots who would do anything to please “Charlie.”

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Mansonism is a peculiarly American form of Nazism, of fascism.

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The secret, as employed by Manson, seems simple: First, the removal of subjects to a “sacred space” in the desert, with attending isolation from society; breakdown of personality through drugs and sex and “mind games”; bestowal of alternate personality or personalities (new names like “Squeaky,” “Sadie,” etc.) operative only in relation to Manson, thus becoming Manson’s “alternates,” like multiple personalities of Manson himself; identification of an external evil—the police, the blacks, etc.—as a threat to the group. And fear is the key element of the Manson Secret that makes it different from other initiatory or shamanistic practices.

“Get the fear,” Manson is known to have encouraged more than once. There is life only within the Family; outside is death and loss of identity. Identity is race, and gender, and devotion to the leader, the Führerprinzip. Family is reinforced through crimes committed together, through mutual sex, and through paranormal experiences. Leadership is tantamount to divinity: Manson is a son of God. The paranoia of the occultist becomes the paranoia of the social outcast, the prisoner, the criminal, the junkie, the murderer. Murder is a form of human sacrifice in Manson’s gestalt, and commission of the murder makes a Family member “made,” as in the Mafia, as in the Son of Sam cult.

Manson has thus brought together elements of Scientology and the Process, along with the Crowleyan “Do what thou wilt,” and crystallized them in the persona of an outlaw. The development of “heightened states” among his followers caused them to experience the world and reality so differently that the cohesiveness of the original Family members still exists: those that have abandoned the Family have become born-again Christians or some type of mystic, i.e., they have not really abandoned the path that Manson set them on.

While serial killers are shamans who have not made it back, Manson Family members are a programmed shaman: i.e., people chosen from society at random and forced to go through the shamanistic experience even though they were not ready and their guru was not prepared for the responsibility; thus, the CIA’s mind-control experiments were mirror images of what Manson was doing to his followers in the desert. They were both forcing individuals to go through an initiatory experience, the difference being that with Manson there was at least the context of a religious or mystical nature—however eclectic or wrong-headed and undeveloped—which the CIA experiments lacked.

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With the Manson Family you had a tribe of shamans who were willing participants, and that made them stronger. With the CIA, you had unwitting guinea pigs who were only useful to the extent that the programming was effective and focused on a single target or targets, such as assassination.

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This is the Manson Secret: the use and abuse of hermetic and initiatic (shamanic) processes as a means of manipulation of individuals and groups; the recognition that within the initiatic process is a wealth of psychological knowledge and technique that can be used for evil as well as for good; the incorporation of Fear as a substitute for Faith. The Manson Secret is black magic, and it was black magic that informed the CIA’s mind-control programs as well. These same processes are being used— virtually without change—among terrorist organizations and revolutionary cells throughout the world, who have realized that the most effective tool for violent action is the properly initiated cult member. Ecstasy is just another face of fanaticism; eros is another face of magic. Fascism is the natural environment for both, for it speaks directly to the passions and the unconscious mind, through the use of symbols, repetitive slogans, and group ritual; i.e., magic. Socialism, being more cerebral, lacks the erotic element so necessary for mass appeal. Mao changed that for a while by ignoring Marx’s dictum against creating a “cult of personality” and turned himself into an image, a magical link to the eternal. Transmute the ecstasy or the eros to a high pitch of passionate dedication to a cause, and use the theory of the magical link competently, and you have created an assassin, or a priest, a lover, an actor; or a politician who cannot be stopped except by a bullet.

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Re: Sinister Forces
« Reply #91 on: August 12, 2013, 07:01:34 pm »
I can't possibly read all of this (sorry), but I've scanned a few of your notes/extracts here and there.

How the fuck did Uri Geller pull off that trick??

The only thing I can think of is that working every day at classified occult experiments must make some people's minds more easily influenced and suggestible?
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« Reply #92 on: August 12, 2013, 08:17:32 pm »
This is probably one of the key points of the series:

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The historical model I am proposing in these volumes should be obvious by now. By tracing the darker elements of the American experience from the earliest days of the Adena and Hopewell cultures through the discovery by Columbus, the English settlers in Massachusetts and the Salem witchcraft episode, the rise of Joseph Smith, Jr. and the Mormons via ceremonial magic and Freemasonry, up to the twentieth century and the support of Nazism by American financiers and politicians before, during, and after World War II, and the UFO phenomenon coming on the heels of that war, we can see the outlines of a kind of political ectoplasm taking shape in this historical séance: politics as a continuation of religion by other means.

The ancillary events of the Charles Manson murders, the serial killer phenomenon, Jonestown, and the assassinations of Jack Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King, and Marilyn Monroe are all the result of the demonic possession of the American psyche, like the obscenities spat out by little Regan, tied to her bed and shrieking at the exorcists. It is said that demonic possession is both a way of testing us, and of making us aware of the real conflict taking place within us every day.

The fact that so many American men and women in positions of power and authority have been specifically involved with occult practices is something that not even I had anticipated before I began the research for this work. Initially, I treated the one or two politicians who “dabbled” as a kind of anomaly; my original focus had been the unhealthy, almost incestuous relationship between Church and State, in America specifically and in the world in general: religious beliefs as the motivation for dangerous policy decisions and strategic maneuvers (such as Ronald Reagan’s apocalyptic Christianity, and Nancy Reagan’s devotion to agenda by astrology, and George W. Bush’s devotion to evangelical Christianity). The more I looked, however, the more I found men with bizarre beliefs and involved in questionable, occult practices at the highest levels of the American government, and buried deep within government agencies.

I also discovered that occultism was embraced by the American military and intelligence establishments as a weapon to be used in the Cold War; and as they did so, they unleashed forces upon the American populace that cannot be called back. Those that were not involved in occultism per se were involved with Nazism in one form or another, and thus were aiding and abetting not only an enemy of America and an enemy of humanity in general, but what was most certainly and by any definition a cult: the most powerful and most dangerous cult the modern world has seen so far. The moral imbecility of those engaging these men as scientists, spies, and agents of American foreign policy—and then defending them against those who begged for justice, hiding them on American soil—is beyond comprehension. The guilty include the Dulles brothers, Walkers and Bushes, Henry Ford, Richard Nixon, and so many other household names in American politics. We can try to make excuses for them, try to rationalize away their actions in the light of realpolitik, but then we become as bad as the Germans who claimed they were only following orders.

Watergate revealed the existence of “sinister forces” to me in many ways. The scandal opened the floodgates of conspiracy theories going back to the Kennedy assassination and beyond. It tied together so many loose ends, yet posited more questions than it offered answers, revealing a secret political struggle that had been going on for decades, ripping apart the very fabric of America with a populace oblivious to it all. One inevitably was forced back to the CIA and the mind-control experiments that began in the late 1940s and extended nearly to the present day.

Coincidence piled on coincidence, indicating the existence of a powerful, subliminal force working at the level of chaos—at the quantum level—and struggling to manifest itself in our reality, our consciousness, our political agenda. This dynamic was uncovered by a Swiss psychologist and an Austrian physicist, but it capably describes a force working within the context of American history and American politics that is suppurating below the consciousness of the people but able to erupt without notice. A sinister force. Fascism.

I've been keeping an eye on this thread for a while, these are definitely on the reading list.

It's difficult to even start to try and comment on this. So much fuckery and so many more things to read into. What kind of time frame does it go up to?

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Re: Sinister Forces
« Reply #93 on: August 12, 2013, 08:36:17 pm »
How the fuck did Uri Geller pull off that trick??

The only thing I can think of is that working every day at classified occult experiments must make some people's minds more easily influenced and suggestible?

No need to apologize.

In regards to Uri...not a clue.  It seems the CIA ruled out hysteria, which doesn't really leave a whole lot of options to explain the thing.  It would be nice to see the actual scientific recordings of what was happening at the time, but STATE SECURITY SECRETS LAWL means no-one probably ever will.

What kind of time frame does it go up to?

It goes from Prehistoric America to the 2000s.  However, it mostly covers the 1945-1990 period, with a particular focus on the late 40s, the 1960s and the 70s.

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Re: Sinister Forces
« Reply #94 on: August 12, 2013, 09:19:40 pm »
Thanks for posting this. I'm not quite caught up yet but should be by tonight. I have no clue what to think of all this, but it's certainly entertaining reading. Really gets the imagination working.


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« Reply #95 on: August 13, 2013, 04:46:27 pm »
Finally caught up. This is definitely moving up in my reading list. I'm surprised at just how plausible I'm finding much of this, especially the serial killer connection stuff. I haven't read much on most of these subjects so I don't have anything to compare them to, but I do like that Levanda seems for the most part to just point out the links between events and persons. Too many conspiracy writings goes the route of 'OMGDUDE THIS IS CONCLUSIVE PROOF YOU CAN"T DENY!!!!!' and then fails to deliver. I much prefer Levanda's approach.

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Re: Sinister Forces
« Reply #96 on: August 16, 2013, 05:37:12 pm »
That was one hell of a read. I lost the narrative a couple of times, but I could follow along well enough to be thoroughly freaked.

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« Reply #97 on: August 16, 2013, 07:22:05 pm »
Really gets the imagination working.

Yes, I've considered incorporating some elements of this into fiction...and then I've wondered exactly how wise doing that would be.

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I do like that Levanda seems for the most part to just point out the links between events and persons. Too many conspiracy writings goes the route of 'OMGDUDE THIS IS CONCLUSIVE PROOF YOU CAN"T DENY!!!!!' and then fails to deliver. I much prefer Levanda's approach.

You would probably like Jeff Wells as well, then.  The linkages are definitely interesting...maybe not indicative of anything in particular, though once you pile coincidence upon coincidence it becomes hard to ignore, but in just setting the scene as to how unbelievably weird the CIA and US military, among others, can get, it's very useful.

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I lost the narrative a couple of times, but I could follow along well enough to be thoroughly freaked.

Yes, I could have easily copied twice as much information, but then we're moving out from the realms of "fair use" and into copyright violations, alas.  It's also, to a degree, how the books are set out.  A chapter will deal with the early life and career of Richard Nixon, for example, until a tangent sends Levenda off on the subject of Manson or Wandering Bishops for a few chapters, which will then somehow whirl back around into the original point.

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« Reply #98 on: August 18, 2013, 03:22:47 pm »
Caught up. Wowza.
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Re: Sinister Forces
« Reply #99 on: May 31, 2017, 08:02:21 am »
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