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Re: "Hunting Season" Officially Kicks Off In Florida
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2013, 01:36:56 pm »
Butt i agree the season.ing is the sentence {add 200

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Re: "Hunting Season" Officially Kicks Off In Florida
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2013, 10:55:31 pm »
Well, there's the whole part where the kid threw punches. That certainly muddies the water in terms of making a homicide case. And Florida's "legal" system and racial hijinks don't change the fact that if it weren't for all the media sensationalism surrounding the case it would have been a manslaughter case and a fairly easy one to make.

Manslaughter was one of the jury's options.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/13/justice/zimmerman-trial/

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For second-degree murder, the jurors would have had to believe that Martin's unlawful killing was "done from ill will, hatred, spite or an evil intent" and would be "of such a nature that the act itself indicates an indifference to human life."

What led jurors to this verdict?

To convict Zimmerman of manslaughter, the jurors would have had to believe he "intentionally committed an act or acts that caused the death of Trayvon Martin." That charge could have carried a sentence of up to 30 years in prison, though the jury was not told of that possible sentence.

Ultimately, they believed Zimmerman wasn't guilty of either charge. None of the jurors wanted to speak to the media after the verdict.

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Re: "Hunting Season" Officially Kicks Off In Florida
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2013, 10:58:55 pm »
Oh. I didn't realize they also had the option of convicting him of manslaughter.

That's alot more depressing.
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Re: "Hunting Season" Officially Kicks Off In Florida
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2013, 12:24:13 am »
Chasing somebody who didn't do anything to you down the street and killing them would be enough for a conviction, I would think.
SYG makes it confusing institutionalized racism though.

Well, that and the lady who's doing 20 years for firing warning shots.

Hello, 1955.

Shooting a wall = 20 years   shooting a person = acquittal   That is messed up.

At first I thought there was more to the story. But no. She had no criminal record. She had already filed a restraining order. And to blame her for going back into HER OWN DAMN HOUSE, to get her keys so that she could flee is ridiculous. Though not quite as ridiculous as the state prosecuting attorney's quote:

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“You can’t shoot a gun at people,” Corey said at the time. “…What if it had hit someone?”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/15/is-it-fair-that-a-florida-mom-received-a-20-year-sentence-for-firing-warning-shot/

Also the state's 10-20-life law is certainly not being implemented the way it was intended.

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The state’s “10-20-life” law was implemented in 1999, saying anyone who shows a gun in the commission of certain felonies gets an automatic 10 years in prison. Fire the gun, and it’s an automatic 20 years. Shoot and wound someone, and it’s 25 years to life.

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“The irony of the 10-20-life law is the people who actually think they’re innocent of the crime, they roll the dice and take their chances, and they get the really harsh prison sentences,” Newburn said. “Whereas the people who think they are actually guilty of the crime take the plea deal and get out (of prison) well before. So it certainly isn’t working the way it is intended.”

Also she had a master's degree. Thank goodness we got her off the streets.

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Re: "Hunting Season" Officially Kicks Off In Florida
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2013, 01:44:59 am »
Well, there's the whole part where the kid threw punches. That certainly muddies the water in terms of making a homicide case. And Florida's "legal" system and racial hijinks don't change the fact that if it weren't for all the media sensationalism surrounding the case it would have been a manslaughter case and a fairly easy one to make.

Manslaughter was one of the jury's options.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/13/justice/zimmerman-trial/

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For second-degree murder, the jurors would have had to believe that Martin's unlawful killing was "done from ill will, hatred, spite or an evil intent" and would be "of such a nature that the act itself indicates an indifference to human life."

What led jurors to this verdict?

To convict Zimmerman of manslaughter, the jurors would have had to believe he "intentionally committed an act or acts that caused the death of Trayvon Martin." That charge could have carried a sentence of up to 30 years in prison, though the jury was not told of that possible sentence.

Ultimately, they believed Zimmerman wasn't guilty of either charge. None of the jurors wanted to speak to the media after the verdict.

FUCK that jury, then.
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Re: "Hunting Season" Officially Kicks Off In Florida
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2013, 03:37:41 am »
Even though that's CNN, I still kinda want a second source, because, welll, fuck.

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Re: "Hunting Season" Officially Kicks Off In Florida
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2013, 03:38:45 am »
Well, there's the whole part where the kid threw punches. That certainly muddies the water in terms of making a homicide case. And Florida's "legal" system and racial hijinks don't change the fact that if it weren't for all the media sensationalism surrounding the case it would have been a manslaughter case and a fairly easy one to make.

Manslaughter was one of the jury's options.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/13/justice/zimmerman-trial/

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For second-degree murder, the jurors would have had to believe that Martin's unlawful killing was "done from ill will, hatred, spite or an evil intent" and would be "of such a nature that the act itself indicates an indifference to human life."

What led jurors to this verdict?

To convict Zimmerman of manslaughter, the jurors would have had to believe he "intentionally committed an act or acts that caused the death of Trayvon Martin." That charge could have carried a sentence of up to 30 years in prison, though the jury was not told of that possible sentence.

Ultimately, they believed Zimmerman wasn't guilty of either charge. None of the jurors wanted to speak to the media after the verdict.

FUCK that jury, then.

Imagine the selection process.  :x :x :x
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Re: "Hunting Season" Officially Kicks Off In Florida
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2013, 03:13:36 pm »
Even though that's CNN, I still kinda want a second source, because, welll, fuck.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/13/george-zimmerman-found-not-guilty/2514163/

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SANFORD, Fla. -- George Zimmerman, the man accused of murdering Trayvon Martin, was found not guilty of second-degree murder and manslaughter Saturday night.

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Re: "Hunting Season" Officially Kicks Off In Florida
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2013, 11:25:23 pm »
Yeah, I was in the same boat as ECH - the only reason I can give for the jury not going for manslaughter is, well, Florida.